Okay, SO many people are saying that Harry Potter is better than Twilight. That’s SO not true!
Twilight is a timeless tale of love, then love lost and found again. It shows how love can get you through everything. It’s such a sweet story about the things people do for love, like Bella goes all the way to Italy to save Edward from the Volturi, for instance.
Also, Twilight is MUCH more creative, I mean, Stephenie Meyer created a new kind of Vampire, instead of just using a stereotypical, Dracula type Vampire. I mean, they sparkle, how awesome is that? Plus, they’re MAJORLY hot instead of being creepy. And the werewolves aren’t your typical “full-moon-flesh-eater” type. It shows that Stephenie Meyer is actually creative while JK Rowling has no original ideas at all.
Twilight is just so sweet and romantic, a fabuous, timeless tale that will likely be around forever. Harry Potter is just a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters, and has no plot. TWILIGHT 4 EVER!
Also, Harry Potter teaches you:
- It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.
- Violence is totally cool.
- Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.
- Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.
- It’s okay to escape from jail.
- Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!
- It’s okay to break the rules.
- It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.
And seriously, the books are also all depressing. Lots of good characters die, which isn’t cool. And they’re just full of violence, and ridiculous plans. Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible. And there’s no way you could seriously just “apparate” dissappear and reappear somewhere else. And if you tried to hop in a fire to go someplace, “Floo Powder”, you’d burn your face off. It’s just crazy, whereas the scenarios in Stephenie Meyers Twilight series are more realistic and likely to happen.
Also, Twilight has:
- Robert Pattison, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!
- Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?
- Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.
- The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters
Harry Potter isn’t all bad, I mean, they DO have:
- Robert Pattison as Cedric Diggory. The ONE thing the producers got right! Don’t even try to deny you don’t rewind just to watch his scenes again!
- Lucius Malfoy. Hot, even for an older guy!
And that’s about it. Seriously, you want QUALITY literature and movies, watch Twilight. I mean, I don’t HATE Harry Potter or anything, It’s just like, NOTHING compared to the literary BRILLIANCE that is Twilight!
You know it’s true!
Peace Out!
Preppy Gurl
Preppy Gurl on the World 
Well at least you admit that Lucius is hot, even if you got everything else wrong 🙂
Then again, you DO think that Helena’s not talented and that Lindsey is…and Miley too.
So clearly this is simply a case of bad taste.
If I believed in God, I would pray for you.
She does have bad taste
No Im talking about you, i hate Twilight too.
I must agree with Annie. I enjoy Twilight, to an extent, but it can not compare to Harry Potter.
omg harry p does have a plot voldemort killed his parents he sacrificed himself for his school his friends and people he doesnt know does that compare to bella crying wah wah boohoo suck it up ron and hermione are fighting for harry while they could have living happily with their parents i remember when all bella wanted was sex compared to a loving mother dying for her child oh yeah twillight is better and it has such a non shallow name YEAH RIGHT OH AND IT WAS MADE IN 2005 IT GOT POPULAR IN 2009 HARRY POTTER WAS POPULAR 2 MONTHS AFTER IT WAS PUBLISHED!!!!!!! grrr the only reason you girls like it is because hot guys jk rowling is creative if you havent noticed abracadabra isnt a real spell! and the cast look more relatable they have flaws okay not pretty creepy robots with glitter on them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not that hot guys is at all a legitimate reason for thinking Twilight is better than Harry Potter, but what are you on about? Ron Weasley’s hot. Seamus Finnegan’s hot. Dean Thomas is hot. Harry Potter’s hot. Neville Longbottom took a level in badass and Matt Lewis is by no means bad-looking. Tom Felton is hot. And…SEAN BIGGERSTAFF as Oliver Wood! Even the actor’s NAME oozes sexiness. Even on this least of counts, Harry Potter rules. Yes, OK, Taylor Lautner is a sexy boy, but he’s only one. And Robert Pattinson, not so much. Harry Potter has several hot guys.
But beyond that, yes, HP teaching that death is natural is a GOOD thing. Chasing immortality is bad. Add that to the list of reasons Twilight is awful. Secondly, Ron doesn’t act controlling of Hermione, he values what she has to say. It’s so much more than we can say for Eddiekins. And Ron’s romantic rival, Viktor Krum, doesn’t *force Hermione to kiss him* like Jacob does to Bella. Dean Thomas doesn’t force Ginny to kiss him either. Harry, Ron, and Hermione committed truancy to bring down a villain who was oppressing people, including the kids who didn’t commit truancy. Many of those kids *couldn’t* go back to school on account of race.
Also, at least Harry gets called out on it when he acts like a jerk. People don’t take his bullshit lying down. And this forces Harry to take a good hard look at himself and grow up. It’s like this for Ron and Hermione too. Characters grow in Harry Potter. Bella never suffers for the bad choices he makes.
True love is not what Edward and Bella share. It’s what Ron and Hermione share. Interestingly enough, R/Hr isn’t the central plot of Harry Potter, and yet it’s got to be bar none one of the best love stories ever. Edward and Bella’s story’s meant to be a love story and yet Edward is controlling and forces Bella to give up literally everything for him. This is not the sort of relationship that I would wish on…well, not even you, OP.
Who ever wrote this article is an idoit. Twilight has no substance, it is a repeated tale of sadly average girl, 2 “hot” guys fight over average girl, she cries and moans about “omg my life is soo hard because 2 hot guys want me” Stephine Meyer has obviously never been been caught between 2 guys before, probably cause she actually was a fat girl in highschool who projected her fantasys into a book which other equally average girls love because it gives them hope. Very boring. JK ROWLING brought our generation back into reading. I have loved Harry Potter since I was little. I love twilight for about a year then realised how utterly crap it is. Thank you JK Rowling.
Twilight is no where near harrypotter! First harry potter is appealing to everybody!! Twilight is appleaning to girls who need a life. Second J.K Rowling has her OWN original ideas and spent ages writing about the wizarding world of harrypotter! I mean Jacob black a dog who rides a motorbike how original. Third Who gives a damn if there are hot guys in a movie we watch a movie because of the plot u idiot. Harry Potter shows determination, bravery and friendship. Twilight shows have no life if ur creepy boyfriend u just met leaves u. J.K Rowling has a better love story in one chapter than whats her face on 4 stories.Kristen Stewart is a crap actor with one facial expression IT GETS BORING, wait no… it always was BORING and worth to be set on fire. Sparkiling? so unattractive i mean Harry’s Potter could get more money than his sparkles… no wait the whole movie put togther!!!!!! Soo… Harry Potter Forever! Twilight go burn in hell with ur freak of an author
I’m a Harry Potter Lover!!! I do like Twilight, but I’m sane enough to realize that Harry Potter is better!
heyyy annie this is not for u…jst so my comment is visible 😛
OK…soooo according to you, magic is impossible but sparkly vamps and turning peopple into bloodsuckers is possible??…so floo powder and apparating is impossible but running with the speed of a jet plane is realistic???…..absolutely flimsy arguments…in twilight its like either have a boyfriend or DIE!!….harry loves ginny but leaves her to keep her safe but bella forces edward to stay out of the fight… sit on his ass all day like her..ok so if you’re useless the least you can do is stay out of other people’s way who CAN help!!!…and seriously im sick of these “awwww!! edward’s soooo hawt!!” arguments…u cant love someone just because they look good and smell good….the characters have no personality at all!!!
The author of this article must be 12.
Hey, I’m twelve and I can see that HP is so much better then tw*l*ght!
she gives us 12 year old a bad rep. Im one of the many Teen Harry Potter fans. Don’t worry . not all of us are this retarded.
It’s a joke, they are being sarcastic.
wait. i think this is a joke. i think she’s making fun of twilight and twilight fan girls. there is no way anyone could be this dumb. check out the other articles
This is a joke. I don’t know if you’re trolling or not, but it’s a joke.
Obviously. ‘The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters’
Yes, because a vampire council is totally realistic. Grow up.
I’d just like to say that this actually is the best writen argument for why Twilight is better than HP…I don’t agree with it at all, but it’s at least better than what I’ve found, and I’ve been reseaching it for quite a while. But don’t judge a book by it’s movie actors…just saying.
Do you want me to post my 35 reasons why HP is better anyone?
I suppose
You’re a bigger idiot than the author of this article if you think this is a well written argument. For starters her argument that magic is unrealistic is plain hypocritical, how are vampires a more substantial idea than witchcraft and wizardry? And the girl is a plain idiot for her Twilight strengths being the attractiveness of the actors, is she commenting on the books at all? no. Because the Twilight series written by a 50 year old with the writing capacity of a 7th grader.
I think it’s so well written because it’s not written by a Twi-hard, but by a Potterhead making a joke. I don’t think this is a real post because usually when this kind of thing is written it involves no spelling, grammar, punctuation or capitalisation and makes the writer look thoroughly stupid.
Okay. This literally made me laugh so hard.
I’m sorry but I must disagree with everything that you have said. I am going to go by everything you say and I’m going to put my reply:
Harry Potter is better than Twilight.
Twilight is a story about a stalking 100-year old pedophile vampire with control issues who wants to basically eat a horny whiny teenager.
Sparkling vampires? Gay. And the only hot one is Emmett. That’s it. All the other vampires are ugly as hell. The werewolves are okay but they’d be a lot more awesome with jet packs.
JK Rowling is a brilliant author who kept MILLIONS of fans by writing seven books.
Twilight is nauseating. Harry Potter is about a boy whose parents get murdered by a wizard and he goes to Hogwarts once he learns he is a wizard himself. He meets two loyal friends who help him overcome the yearly attacks from Voldemort to kill him and in the process, other people sacrifice their lives in order to defeat Voldemort. Finally, Harry leaves Hogwarts in order to destroy Hocruxes and defeat Voldemort once and for all.
Also, Harry Potter teaches you:
That if you are to save your world, it is okay to drop out of school and forgo more education in order to fight a greater cause. Adults are not necessary.
Violence, while it may be entertaining in movies, is tragic and people who die due to violence should be grieved for.
Good friends stick by each other through thick and thin.
When the government is corrupted, it is okay to escape confinement.
When there is a maniac trying to take control of the world, do not bother trusting the government- there may be a lot of cover-ups or conspiracies going on.
It’s okay to break the rules for the greater good of all.
It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures when you are sticking up for yourself.
Also, it is called a SCIENCE FICTION novel. Don’t read it if you’re expecting realistic things to happen.
And Twilight is about as likely to happen as Harry Potter is. I mean, come on, sparkling vampires? Werewolves?
Twilight:
Robert Pattison, can you say EW?? And when he sparkles? *pukes*
I’ll give you Taylor Lautner. That one is hard to disagree with.
Kristen Stewart, an extremely untalented actress you cannot portray emotion for crap.
Again, it’s called SCIENCE FICTION not REALISTIC FICTION.
The fact that Cedric Diggory is played by Robert Pattinson, just makes me glad when he dies.
Enlighten yourself and go here, for all our sakes: http://community.sparknotes.com/index.php/2009/07/16/blogging-twilight-index-page/
TOTALLY AGREE. except that HP and Twilight are fantasy not Sci-fi, Sci-fi is set in space or on another planet or with aleins etc.
I think he is cute and healthy and a good-looking guy in goblet of fire. in twilight he turns creepy.
Sci – Fi is just science fiction, which is just another way for a fantasy novel that involves technology much more sophisticated than what we have now. And ultimately judging what movie is better is a personal opinion that should not be limited to what movie has the most hot guys / girls or something. My personal opinion is that the OP did not see / did not understand the actual harry potter plot and if he / she did, she would not write such underrated comments about harry potter.
One of the things I really don’t like about Twilight is that it gives the actors a bad name. Robert Pattinson is actually pretty cool guy as far as I can tell, and he’s also pretty good looking too, just not in Twilight.
twilight is more likely to happen DUDE THEY’RE SPARKLY FKN VAMPIRES totally yeah
No i didnt re-wind the cedric diggory scenes. Except the one he died in. That was funny.
How can you be born an orphan? Twilight fans for you..
Ever thought that vampires are impossible? and frickin shape shifters?
GLITTERING VAMPIRES at that?
And how the heck are itallian sparkly vampires any more ‘realistic’ that harry potter villains?
Oh lol.
The girl who wrote this is shallow, and even insane I would say. You’ve got no knack for taste, and less for what is good, and what is not. You judge movies, since you didn’t read the books obviously, by how hot their actors are, and your reasons are pathetic. Sorry.
why not pray anyway
❤
Wow, thats exactly what I was gonna say, Lucius is really hot and Helena is very very talented as Bellatrix and stuff. Lots of people in my class actually believe that Kristen Stewart and Rob Pattinson are more talented then Helena Bonham Carter and say Alan Rickman, yea I don’t think so. It’s a good thing she just made this up because seriously this whole Twillight vs Harry Potter thing is pissing me off. Harry Potter will always be better and there isn’t a day where I don’t want to send a letter to Stephanie Meyer saying: Learn how to fucking write, your books make me want to cry they are so awful!
I completely agre with you Leaxa and i also thank you for supporting the Potterfans. As for the information above, you say Harry Potter does all bad stuff and so on but i ask didnt the Volturi kill their own kind?? Didn’t they too hunt innocent people??? and if you haven’t noticed, the death eater appear in cloaks only in the 4th part with hood on. In the last and final movie hundreds of them turned up with nothing more than their ordinary black robes. You have gotten the whole idea wrong. A s for J K Rowling not being creative, let me see Stephanie meyer capture millions of people with one big plot through 7 books and not have any sort of mad acts in her books like trying to suicide yourself because you lover left. Ron left Hermione and she cried but she kept working to save the Wizard kind because she knew by doing this she will make the world better for her lover and friends even though she might die in the attempt but what did bella do when Edward left her??? She sat and cried and someone else had to help her and what did she do for the world?? She just put herself and those around her in more trouble!
I hope I have opened your eyes as to how stupid it was of you to say so ! If this ain’t enough I would be glad to show a few more instances why Harry Potter is better than Twilight!
Marry me….
AGAIN!YOUR A BI*CH
A very big B!tch at that
thank you Annie.
no problem, if your the ginnyweasleyfan from fanpop, Im zanhar1
oh I am!and hi!your name is Annie?
yes it is
Omg! Hi! I’m nati30 from fanpop, I don’t know if you guys know me but I know you guys lol
duh go ginny go ginny!!!
This is the worst artical I ever wasted my life and blinded my eyes reading, Kristen Stewrt cant act for s*** while Helena throws so much emotion into her roles. Helena is a great singer adn those Disney stars should stick to acting thy’re overrated and suck at singing do yourself a favor and go listin to some real music and watch some real actors/actresses.
I should also add that Twilight is an abomination to the littature world and should be used souley as fire wood.
you are so write
Lets have bonfire!!!!
Oo I ♥ bon fires *tosses some twilight books into a fire*
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Me and my friends have Twilght burning parties!!!!!!!!
As much as I agree that the Twilight books are utter crap, I disagree with burning them. Burning any books, even ones that BARELY qualify as books, sets a precedent that burning books is okay, which it certainly is not. I say They should be used as paperweights. Very large paperweights.
You, are aboslutaly correct!
Using them as paperweights makes them visible to others, unfortunately. I use the copy that my grandmother gave me to even out the couch legs in the living room.
AWESOME! That was really cool. Why don’t we have a bonfire? Twilight deserves it.
I TOTALLY agree, I got SO friggin mad reading it. Harry Potter does NOT teach death is just a common day thing, I bet she hasn’t even read HP books. In DH, they are CLEARLY crying over the deaths. Voldemort is a proper, evil villain, not like those stupid volturi peeps. If Voldemort was in Twilight, he would have killed Bella straight away.
JK made her own creature’s and sport and actually stuck to common folklores and myths, and didn’t go twisting them arounf like Shmeyer did.
Kristen Stewart had ONE expression on her face all through the movie and I can write better than Shmeyer.
If you want hot guys, then you have to google Tom Felton, or Rupert Grint or someone like that.
It’s okay to break the rules/the law only if your life depends on it. And besides, the geatest wizard of all times told Harry to go and Stop Voldemort, so that the rest of the wizarding world can live in peace. That’s the reason they left school, and I think it’s only fair to make an exeption at that point.
So now, I instruct you to go and read some PROPER literature, not the shitty one that Shmeyer produced. And google some ACTUALLY hot guys.
P.S. Sparkilng fairies (or, as Shmeyer calls them, “Vampires”) are NOT hot!!! They are the GAY!!!
P.P.S I have nothing against gay people
I think most gay people are offended when Twilight is called gay. Gives gay people a bad name.
I agree with you Annie. Kristen Stewart is an awful actor and she does not have any potential!
that’s bullshit! here’s some of the stuff Twilight teaches us:
1. It’s okay to blow off your friends and parents so you can hang out with your boyfriend
2. It’s okay to do dangerous stuff like jump off cliffs so you can hear your boyfriend’s voice
3. It’s okay to get married right after high school
4. If all your friends and your family members die, who cares? I’m immortal, I have my hot abusive boyfriend, and my demon child
5. It’s okay to fall in love with a baby
6. Having a boyfriend is the most important thing in the world and if you don’t have you should act totally moody and bitchy
btw how do the actors for Twilight make up for how bad the books and movies are?
I second this! This article is AWFUL. How can they seriously say that Twilight is perfect and Harry Potter is crap?!
Sure, there are flaws in the HP series. But JKR is only human and these flaws are going to be there.
However, there is NOTHING creative about what Meyer did. Nothing.
Not only is it not creative, it plot is non-existent too. All the only interesting bit is the last 10 pages, even they’re badly written. On fact, each of the books has the same plot, whereas Harry Potter’s plot is so elaborate and it all links and works together. This article is just ridiculous.
100% true
totaly agree
looks like we all (yet again) agree
I just got linked to this from a friend on facebook. I cannot believe this article and I definitely agree with all the points you just made. In New Moon Bella nearly kills herself because she thinks it will bring her boyfriend back. And the idea that Harry Potter is soooo unrealistic is just idiotic. Um preppygurl last time I checked vampires didn’t exist. As much as you may want some creepy overly-possessive psycho who sparkles to tell you he loves you it is not.going.to.happen. Harry Potter teaches you the importance of family, friendship, fighting for the people you love and the things you believe in. Twilight teaches you the importance of having a boyfriend.
I’ve read the all of the Twilight books and I will admit that I thought they were okay. I don’t hate Twilight ( with exception to the movies because they SUCK!) but to compare Twilight to Harry Potter is like comparing a dirt to gold.
acutally comparing twilight to harry potter would be like comparing cow poop to diamonds
(and i do mean that twilight is the cowpoop)
I second that. Also what is with: “It’s such a sweet story about the things people do for love, like Bella goes all the way to Italy to save Edward from the Volturi, for instance.” Yeah, because taking a random trip to Italy, running out on your father a few hours after his friend died and leaving your best friend in the dust.. That all shows true love.
Not like, you know, when Harry literally DIED for his friends. Actually walked straight into the heart of the forest, sacrificed himself to Voldemort and looked death straight in the eyes and wasn’t scared because he knew he was saving everybody he cared about. Yeah, going to Italy shows so much more love and compassion and bravery than THAT..
Another argument that I have with the article is that clearly “Preppygurl” isn’t even a fan of Twish*t. I personally dislike the books very much but I HAVE read them and even I know that Jacob and his pack aren’t real werewolves. Meyer states this (well.. Aro says it): “Though the creatures think of themselves as werewolves, they are not. The more accurate name for them would be shape-shifters. The choice of a wolf form was purely chance.” (Meyer, Stephanie. Breaking Dawn, page 704)
Anyone who has read the frucking book would know that. I’ve only read it once. Also, what kind of century old, Italian, super evil vampire speaks like that? I would talk somewhat like that and I’m a fifteen year old Australian..
Preach! This girl is so retarded, it’s not even funny.
actuallyu it kind of is funny how retarded she is
i have more to add
7. its ok to be a pedophile
8. its ok to turn into a werewolf every time you get angry
just thought i would put that out there
my explination: 7) edwards like 100 years old, Bella’s 17…
8) ‘dont make me angry or things will get very ugly’ jacob new moon
OU! and also:
It’s okay to take cold meds to sleep! Don’t forget that one! and Jumping on a plane across the world without telling your parents to “Save” the “boyfriend” that left you….
You have the WORSED taste ever, this is a stupid article, every thing is wrong…& how old are u, like 10??? this is sooo immature!!! If u thing that twilight shit is better than hp, u have NO understanding of good books…
p.s.
i HATE your icon, Katy is a bitch, like u…
Once again, we disagree. You want to know what Twilight teaches you? Well, here you go:
– how important it is to have a BF
– jump of a cliff if your BF dumps you
– only looks matter
– have a child before college
– heck, forget about college!
– get married before your education is finished
– lead poor guys along, then break their heart
– if someone helps you heal your heart when it is broken, then in turn get their heart broken, you ignore them and never go back to them
– friends don’t matter compared to a BF
– girls have to be weak so guys can save them
– bragging and whining is what everyone is supposed to do
– blondes are ‘bad people’ [Rosalie and Lauren, I think]
– if you don’t have a BF, you are nobody and should go jump of a cliff
– when everyone is nice to you on your first day, be mean to them
– friends are for having favors done and not repaying them back
– compare the people who help you most to dogs
So obviously, it;s not the best, where areas Harry Potter is (hence my name).
Harry Potter doesn’t say ‘death is nothing, don’t worry about it, it happens every day.’
Yes, To the well organized mind, death id but the next great adventure, but you don’t seem to understand this line very well (well, that’s obvious, ‘well organized mind’, remember?)
Harry, Ron, and Hermione dropped out of school because if they went to school, they would be murdered, they are in trouble, aren’t they? The Golden Trio (G3) have to save the world from Death Eaters who kill; Bella and Edward have to talk it out with the Volturi, who are merciful. I mean, villains? Merciful? Doesn’t work that way.
JK Rowling is more creative, have you read Fantastic Beasts? Probably not. She incorporates proper mythology (aka no sparkling) into her books while making it absolutely new, something only she could’ve pulled off. Have you heard of Wrackspurts and Boggarts and Red Caps and Hinkypunks before? No. Have you heard of vampires and were-wolves before? Yes.
Honestly, the characters in Twilight don’t have any depth. 2/3 of the book is made up of Bella describing Edward, 1/5 of it is made of snogging, and the remainder of the plot, which is squeezed into the last few pages. Interesting!
If Harry Potter isn’t love, then nothing (especially Twilight) is! Harry’s mother Lily dies to save him. It is this that protects Harry from … Voldemort.
Have I convinced you at this point? Because most people are usually convinced at this point.
you are brilliant.
Who are you referring to? I’ve read all the posts and it sure looks like we all hate you.
Prep, you fool, she’s referring to HarryPotterBest, not YOU.
*facepalm…facedesk… epic facepalm* ok im done now.
/headdesk
haha oh preppygurl. i would never support you.
Wow, you really are an idiot, preppy gurl. She is refering to Harrypotterbest, not you. Everyone hates you.
I am glad that i am not the only one that notice than when i read shitlight, sorry twilight
OMG true twilights a bitch
THANK YOU!
Also, don’t forget plot!
“Harry Potter is just a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters, and has no plot.”
PLEASE, spare me. Every character in the series has a purpose to the storyline, which would take HOURS to explain verbally because it’s complex and features SO many subplots that weave into the main storyline, and develops the characters throughout the series.
Which is, by the way, something Shmeyer, her sparklepires, and here ‘SPESHUL SNOWLFLAKE’, Bella wouldn’t know if it shoved its wooden stake up their asses. Nobody in the entire series changes throughout the entirety of the series. (Vampirism + Shapeshifting has NOTHING to do with character change.) Unless, of course, you count Jacob becoming just as much of an abusive asshole as Edwart. (Please not, any ‘misspellings’ are completely on purpose.)
Meanwhile, Harry grows emotionally and learns about death, Hermione gains an open mind and learns how to stand up for herself and those around her, and Ron becomes more sensitive and learns about hardship.
•It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.
•Violence is totally cool.
•Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.
•Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.
•It’s okay to escape from jail.
•Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!
•It’s okay to break the rules.
•It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.
like, like, like, LIKE, LIKE!!!!!!!!!!!! the world isn’t doomed after all.
Yes, exactly. And also? As for romance? Ron and Hermione have a much better love story than Edward and Bella ever could.
I know right er, Kripa? HP show a better love story in one chapter then this pile of shit in 4 books
i’m totally agree !! no one can beat Harry Potter ;D
This is the stupidest thing i’ve ever seen in my life…everything is wrong…u obviousley have HORRIBLE taste in books. anyone who thinks that twilight shit is better than hp is either seriousley stupid or…well, just seriousley stupid. & how old are u, like 10??? this is sooo immature!!! get a life!!!
p.s.
i HATE your icon, Katy is a bitch, like u…
This is the stupidest thing i’ve ever seen. you obviously have HORRIBLE tast in books…& how old are u, like 10? this is sooo immature!!!
p.s.
i HATE your icon, Katy is a twat, like u…
Seriously? You make no valid arguments whatsoever. “HP has no plot.” And Twilight does? Let me give you the plot of Twilight
Bella moves to a new town.
Bella meets Edward.
Bella describes Edward’s apperence.
Bella babbles about how boring her life is.
Bella talks about Edward’s apperence.
Bella falls down, and almost dies.
Bella is resqued by Edward.
Bella talks about Edward’s apperence.
Bella and Edward talk about how much they love each other.
Bella talks about Edward’s apperence.
Bella talks abput Edward’s apperence.
Bella talks about Edward’s appererence.
Bella talks about Edward’s appererence
Bella talks about Edward’s appererence
Bella is attacked by another vampire
Edward resques Bella.
Bella talks about Edward’s apperence.
Very intriging plot.
Now then, to contadict your toxic thoughts.
•It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything
Twilight: Its okay to have no goals or ambitions other than to be with your perfect (looking) boyfriend who dosent even treat you well. Also, Harry vs. Voldy is an important part of the story. Many action/fantasy books, no actually ALL action/fantasy books have the good guy vs. the bad guy.
•Violence is totally cool.
Yeah, because it’s the only thing to have violence in it. Twilight: Stalking and abuse is really cool.
•Death is no big deal, and happens all the time
Death does happen all the time. The point is “dont fear death.” Unlike Twilight, which tells you “Growing old, and dying is the worst fate that can happen to you. Being immortal is the only way to be happy.” Terrible message.
•Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.
Since when is her ever a jerk to his friends? If some maniac killed my parents, and ruined my childhood, I’d be a little upset too, wouldnt you. And Bella has never complained about anything. (If you can’t detect the sarcasm, you are a moron.)
•It’s okay to escape from jail.
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•Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!
If the goverment was treating me like shit, I wouldnt trust them either.
Its okay to break rules
He always gets caught for this.
As for your last one, I’m not sure what your getting at.
As for your “reasons” for liking Twilight. (the characters being hot.) they are ridiculous.
Your arguments are rambling, flimsy, childish, invalid, and frankly laughable.
“Jo Rowling is a terrific writer while Stephanie Meyer can’t write worth a darn” – Stephen King.
Well said. <333
Need I say more about your comment? 😀
NO words you havave said it all
Thank you! I love going through these comments. It’s funny to see how many hp fans there are! 😀 twilight is a picture book compared to Harry Potter. And Remus Lupin could beat the crap out of jacob any day.
Honey, if you’re also one of the many who’se from Fanpop, I’d prop spam you to death! ;D
And I mean all of you guys, who commented here.
what do you meab by that XD Im from fanpop.
Maybe she meant emo!Harry of OotP? In that case, she forgets that everybody rightly called Harry out when he was being a jerk. In Harry Potter, when good guys are acting not so great, PEOPLE CALL THEM OUT. Not so in Twilight.
Exactly! Yep…just exactly. I don’t need to comment. You said it all.
Also, Harry Potter is just a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters? Coz good GOD! Who the hell wants to read about book unless it’s about reall life!?
You’re silly little girl who isn’t mature enough to look at something objectivley and thinks that someone apperance is a REASON to like something.
GROW UP!
“The point is ‘dont fear death.’ Unlike Twilight, which tells you ‘Growing old, and dying is the worst fate that can happen to you. Being immortal is the only way to be happy.’ Terrible message.”
haha, funny. Isn’t that EXACTLY what Voldemort thinks in Harry Potter? That death is the worst fate and he seeks immortality to be happy? I find it interesting that this message is at the core of Twilight, painting it in a postitive light. Meanwhile, JK Rowling uses this idea as the driving antagonistic thought and she argues fiercely against it through Dumbledore and Harry.
Continuing with this parallel between Twighlight and Voldemort: Twilight, like Voldemort, recruits followers (ie Twi-hards and Death Eaters) to follow it obsessively. These followers believe that their leader is supreme and they use egotistical, petty arguments on why such a leader is best. For Twi-hards defending Twilight, I’d say a good example of a petty argument can be seen in the article above. For Death Eaters, an egotistical argument would be that pure-bloods were given a privelge for being pure-blood and should therefore rule over everything for forever.
Furthermore, these arguments usually result in extreme action and originate from brain washing via ideas of grandeur. Extreme action for Twi-hards would be Team-Edward and Team-Jacob debates with general annoying tween fangasming left and right. Again the article above demonstrates this. These actions are due to brain-washing all the young minds with the ideal romance existing for all eternity. Death Eaters use more extreme action of course (ie murder based on pure-blood privelege) but nevertheless seem to be paralell in cult-like appearance as Twi-hards.
Am I drawing too many parallels between Twilight and ultimate evil?
Well that…was a waste of time. Do you have any intelligent arguments sweetie? This is a weak argument, and it’s quite childish, and frankly laughable.
“Jo Rowling is a terrific writer while Stephanie Meyer cant write worth a darn.”-Stephen King.
Hello all! I recognise some of you guys- potterforever and harrypotterbest. 😀
Anyways, ‘preppygirl’, Twilight is not, I repeat, not a ‘timeless tale of love and romance’. It is a terrible book of lust with a shelf life of about 10 years.
Love is not shown in Twilight- not even parental love. It is implied, but there is not one case where it is shown.
And in response to your point about not fully trusting authority- how is that bad? If a small group of potentially corrupt people had entire control over my life, and called me a liar, I certainly wouldn’t trust them.
All your others points are crap, and really not worth responding to.
Dont forget that Twilight is completly unorignal vampire romances (in this case a fail one) are everywhere.
btw im from fanpop too, zanhar1
zanhar1annie : remember me ?? i’m rheiicullen78 from fanpop ! i can’t believe someome made this article !! ohh God, she’s bitch
I agree
This is the worst article I’ve ever read. You present laughable arguments and you contradict yourself.
-Also, Twilight is MUCH more creative…
Twilight much more creative? These 4 books together contain as much as plot as a 1000 word fanfiction.
-I mean, Stephenie Meyer created a new kind of Vampire, instead of just using a stereotypical, Dracula type Vampire. I mean, they sparkle, how awesome is that? Plus, they’re MAJORLY hot instead of being creepy.
Oh yes, SMeyer is a GENIUS, when she made vampires sparkle. Now they have absolutely no problem with food, because when their prey sees them, they laugh themselves to death, because they FREAKING SPARKLE! Dear girl, vampires are supposed to be creepy!
-Harry Potter is just a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters, and has no plot.
I could summarize all the Twilight books with one sentence, but an A4 sized paper wouldn’t be enough to summarize Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone (the thinnest out of them all), even with my smallest handwriting.
-Lots of good characters die, which isn’t cool.
That’s one more thing that makes Rowling an excellent writer. She’s not afraid to kill off positive characters. We all die, sooner or later. That’s life. And there isn’t a war without casualties, whether they are good or bad.
-I mean, Magic is impossible.
And you’re trying to say that vampires aren’t?
– * Robert Pattison, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!
* Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?
* Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.
* The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters
You’re saying that the quality of the movie depends on the “hotness” of the actors?
I say, that beauty is in the eyes of the viewer.
For example, when Edward sparkles, I wouldn’t say he’s hot, more like a human shaped disco ball that should be twirling on the ceiling.
Also, if Kristen Steward HAS talent, then it’s definitely not showing in any of the movies. She only has one expression, and it’s like she’s constantly smelling something bad.
Khm, the Volturi are also cloaked, so according to you, they should be freaks too.
-Robert Pattison as Cedric Diggory. The ONE thing the producers got right! Don’t even try to deny you don’t rewind just to watch his scenes again!
Yes, you’re right, that RPattz was indeed pretty good as Cedric. But calling him the one thing that the producers got right is like saying the Sun is blue. RIDICULOUS!
And yes, I don’t rewind any RPattz scene.
And as of your “Twilight is such a sweet romance story!” argument. How in the hell are Edward’s stalkerish manipulative actions sweet?!
When someone watches you in your sleep without you knowing, you call the cops!
When someone told you that he has been watching you sleep without you knowing, you stay away from him!
When your boyfriend breaks something in your car so that you can’t visit your friend, you break up with him!
Twilight is NOT quality literature, the movies are even worse. Harry Potter will be remembered for decades to come, just like Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings, but in a few years Twilight will be forgotten, because it just didn’t contribute anything to the world literature.
I’m also gonna add it, like one awesome person did before me:
“Jo Rowling is a terrific writer while Stephanie Meyer can’t write worth a darn” – Stephen King.
i couldnt have said it better 🙂
this article doesnt sound like she’s read EITHER series.
Her vampires are creepy, or is watching strangers accepted in today’s world?
Ah, but you see, we can. The romance in Twilight is nothing more than teenage lust. Show me one thing these characters have in common, one realistic reaon why they should be together.
She loves him for his looks.
He loves her for her smell.
Wow, what a beautiful timeless romance.
how can you say JK doesnt have no imagination? she created a WHOLE bloody world with creatures, spells, wizard games etc. and you say twilight is timeless love? have you read the HP books its full of love AKA ron and hermione who are WAY better than edward and bella and whose love is real and not just that kind of love but friendship and just love for the people in your life who you dont ditch for your BF!!! and you cant say one of the reasons you love the series is because someone is hot! for merlin sake 🙂
More like a timeless tale of abuse and stalking. Not to mention that its not a ‘timeless tale’ and will fade away quite quickly once the last movie is released.
Also gauging the good points of Harry Potter on how hot the characters are is really shallow.
*cough* PRINCESS BRIDE *cough* ROMEO AND JULIET *cough* Those are classics. Twilight is a PWP. It’s like SMeyer’s wet dream that she wrote down and accidentally published. That’s a quote from your precious Robert Pattinson. Burn.
how about shmeyer herself saying while she was flattered to be compared to Harry Potter, there was no comparison, and jo’s writing was superior. now if that doesn’t give the twitards a hint, I don’t know what will.
You’re mah hero XD
Umm actually it’s NOT a timeless tale of love. and it is certainly NOT sweet.
What Bella and Edward have is NOT love. It’s curiosity, lust and PURE INSANITY!
Did they get to know each other first? Did they have rational conversation? Were they into the same stuff? No, here’s how it goes:
Bella: “I’m a bitter, depressed teen who’s gonna ignore all my friends and sit around chewing my lip and looking vulnerable until I get a guy…”
Edward: “Mmm you smell good, can I drink your blood and kill you?”
Bella: “You’re hot. I’m not scared of you. Please have sex with me and then bite me so I can have a demon child and watch all my friends and family die. I don’t care about them, I just need you..
Edward: “I’ve been watching you sleep.”
Bella: “Ohh that’s soooo romantic!”
Edward: “Come and meet my bloodsucking family, they might try to kill you”
~~blah blah blah bits in between… Bella almost dies~~
Jasper: “OM NOM NOM NOM BELLA!”
Edward: “It’s too dangerous for you, I’m leaving.”
Bella: “Maybe if I do REALLY dangerous things I can hallucinate that he’s back!”
*Jumps off cliff*
Twi-hating audience: “Awwww why didn’t she DIE!?”
Jacob: “Hi, I seem really nice, I’m a supporting friend and all, but I’m also a werewolf. I’m better for you than Edward.”
Twi- Loving audience: “What did he say?” “WHO CARES, look at those abs!” “I love this movie, he’s soooo hot!”
Bella: “Thanks for mending my heart, Jacob! Now I’m gonna break yours!”
Edward: “Oh noes! Bella’s DEAD! I didn’t even get to drink her blood yet! Better do something highly illegal by vampire standards and get myself killed!”
Bella: “Let’s go to Italy and walk right into the arms of the evil but highly merciful Volturi… without telling my Dad. I have to save my abusive stalker boyfriend who left me and broke my heart, even though they will probably kill me!”
Blah blah blah boring stuff in between, sadly Edward is safe again
Bella: “Bite me!”
Edward: “Marry me!”
Bella: “Have sex with me first!”
Edward: “I might kill you but.. ok”
Bella: “I’m pregnant, this thing’s trying to claw its way out of my belly and kill me! Awww! Let’s keep it!”
Bella: “I think I’m dying…”
Here, drink some human blood……
Carlisle: “Surprise! It’s your birthday! Oh and you have a baby daughter! She grows quickly, and she can send you visions, and the Volturi are after her!”
Edward: “Surprise, you’re a vampire! I bit you while you were giving birth!”
Jacob: “Surprise, I’m in love with your baby daughter!”
ARGHH PEDOPHILE!
~~Big lead up to epic battle that never happens~~
And now you can live happily ever after for the rest of your 19 year old afterlife in a cottage in the middle of the woods with your demon baby and sparkly stalker boyfriend while everyone you’ve ever known DIES without knowing what’s happened to you. Have fun!
*Bella and Edward have sex again* The end.
Sorry about the incredibly long post. I hope I’ve made my point clear.
Love your argument. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Why thank you! Love the name! 😀
Dumbledore’s Army unite!
Ha, I’d like to see what Preppy-I-can’t-spell-GIRL has to say to THAT!
“this thing’s trying to claw its way out of my belly and kill me! Awww! Let’s keep it!” LOL
too true……hahaha can’t get over that ^ LOL
HARRY POTTER IS THE BEST!!!!
Things that it teaches you:
To be loyal and kind.
To stand up for what you believe in.
that friendship is important.(AND YOU WILL HAVE NO FRIENDS!)
I mean really!And that article about Helena was JANK!
That artical about Helena wasnt jank, it was flat out bulls*** excuse the launge.
Yes i can deny it, its not a romance story its a lust story, what Bella feels for Edward is pure infaction. In harry Potter relationships are taken step by step thus makeing those relationships more romantic.
About Rowling not being creative she invented quittage where as Myere just used baceball. Rowling used stars to name characters and things like knocturnal and Diagnol to name her streets (Diagonally and Knocturnalley) while Myere named her town after table utisles.
that’s true. In fact this is the first book that i dont see the “love story” beacuse… Bella:”oh he is so hot and strong” Edward… i cant read your mind… would you like to get out with me? Seriously is that love? NOOOOOOOOOO
Edward can’t read Bella’s mind because she has no mind to read. =)
We can deny it. In fact, we all just did.
Im glade to see everyone here is in agreement
And Twilight SUCKS did infact touch on all your childish arguments.
I have read both Twilight and Harry Potter, and although I must admit that Twilight was as awful as some people seem to think, it’s got NOTHING on Harry Potter!
First, you can’t possibly have read any of the books or seen any of the movies of you make this statement: “[. . .] JK Rowling has no original ideas at all”. She invented an entire new government; hundreds of spells; a book of children’s stories; many new kinds of magical creatures; an original, unique sport; hundreds of characters, many of which are quite dynamic; a whole new way to immortalize oneself; et cetera.
“Harry Potter is just a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters and has no plot”.
You’re kidding right?
So you wouldn’t call James tricking Bella into going to that ballet studio and then breaking her leg and biting her a crazy idea performed by a weird, freaky character?
While I cannot give a tenable argument about Twilight having no plot, you must admit that it is not very original: Girl meets boy; boy is attracted to girl, though he knows he shouldn’t be; boy saves girl from some mishap; boy and girl somehow inexplicably fall in love in about 5 minutes; two boys fight over girl; boy realizes he is not good for her so he breaks up with her; both are freakishly depressed; girl saves boy from committing suicide; then the rest of the story is their fight to stay together…ring any bells? It’s just Romeo and Juliet except with a happy ending.
And though you may not know it, Twilight and Harry Potter have the same theme: Love conquers all.
Twilight’s is, as you must know, blatantly obvious. If it were not blatantly obvious I doubt it would have generated the fan base it has. There would no longer be a reason to read the books, as they would be nearly empty of relevant content.
Harry Potter’s is slightly more subtle; it is not some grand gesture of romantic love. Harry Potter’s love stems from camaraderie and family bonds. Harry’s mother dies to save him, and Harry dies to save his friends, teachers, and peers at the Battle of Hogwarts. He offered to die in place of his friends. That is the truest form of love, right there. His love conquers Voldemort, for Voldemort does not understand the workings of love.
“And seriously, the books are also all depressing”.
Harry Potter is probably more realistic that Twilight in this aspect. Twilight has that perfectly happy, sappy ending where everything is going to turn out just spiffy. None of the bad guys will ever hurt the good guys again, and almost none of the good guys died or had any lasting damage inflicted upon them.
Harry Potter, ultimately, has a happy ending, but in order to achieve that happy ending, many of the good guys had to sacrifice their lives. All who sacrificed their lives for the greater good also displayed the theme: love conquers all. Harry Potter is only stating that you can’t have it all; life is not fair, even if you are a witch or wizard.
“Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible.”
First of all, “magic” is not a proper noun; just thought I’d put that out there. Anyways, I think it’s pretty ridiculous and impossible for vampires to sparkle and reproduce with a human–they are undead after all. Also, who ever heard of “imprinting” on a baby? It’s called being a pedophile, people! Last I checked, being a pedophile was not worthy of merit. Are you claiming these things to be possible?
Where’s your imagination? Both of these books come under the genre of fantasy for a reason.
“Also, Twilight has:
-Robert Pattison, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!
-Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?
-Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.
-The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters”.
Excuse me? Kristen Stewart is a talented actress with loads of potential? I really hope you’re playing a joke on me, because otherwise, this statement has no place here at all.
Yes, Taylor Lautner is attractive, I’ll give you that.
And although Twilight made him a star, Harry Potter had Robert Pattinson first–as Cedric Diggory! I find it rather amusing that you claim to love Robert Pattinson and yet…you misspelled his last name.
“I mean, I don’t HATE Harry Potter or anything, It’s just like, NOTHING compared to the literary BRILLIANCE that is Twilight!”
I think you have the names in there backwards. Enough said.
Taylor didn’t get all his fame from Twilight, he started first in Sharkboy and Lavagirl, a disney channel movie.:3
Ah! When I had my Taylor Launter pahse I watched that movie 7 times in a row! Ahahaha!
I love you.
Although, you missed some major points, such as,
“You are just stupid. Just stupid.”
I was actually thinking of what to say to this blog, and you have managed to explain everything I wanted to and more. You should become a critic, because I’ve never met someone who can so easily rip apart a persons claims of something being better than something else. Bravo.
Okay PreppyGurl, I have read all the Twilight books, more than once actually, and have seen all the movies that are currently out, even read the bits of Midnight Sun that Stephenie Meyer put up on her website a while back. Similarly I have read all the Harry Potter books, more than once, have seen all the movies that are currently out and have read the harry Potter prequel that appeared online a while back. This means I am capable of forming a fair, unbiased opinion of these books. You seem to be unsatisfied with the other reader’s reponses and claim they have not rebutted all your arguments, so I am going to comment on each section of this article in turn, in hopes that my comments may enlighten you. This will be a lengthy response, so bear with me.
“Twilight is a timeless tale of love, then love lost and found again. It shows how love can get you through everything. It’s such a sweet story about the things people do for love, like Bella goes all the way to Italy to save Edward from the Volturi, for instance.”
First of all, it does not show you how love can get you through anything, more often that not Bella wants to die because of her love. In New Moon she is continuously depressed and selfishly puts herself in harm’s way, not considering how it may affect those around her who actually care for her, in order to hear the imagined voice of Edward. It presents the idea not that love can get you through anything, but that you can’t through anything if you don’t have a boyfriend. Also you say that Bella going to Italy to save Edward shows her love for him. It sounds like you are implying that nothing quite so dramatic occurs in the Harry Potter books to prove their love for each other. I’d like to draw your attention to the character of Severus Snape. He was a Death Eater, he was on the side of evil, but he changed sides. How? He was in love with someone good and pure, and that love made him good and pure. She loved someone else and disliked Snape for choosing the side of the Death Eaters, but he didn’t give up or try to kill himself. He fought. He fought and went on living and helping those fighting for justice as she had been. Compared with this amazing character, Bella Swan’s display of love is almost laughable.
“Also, Twilight is MUCH more creative, I mean, Stephenie Meyer created a new kind of Vampire, instead of just using a stereotypical, Dracula type Vampire. I mean, they sparkle, how awesome is that? Plus, they’re MAJORLY hot instead of being creepy. And the werewolves aren’t your typical “full-moon-flesh-eater” type. It shows that Stephenie Meyer is actually creative while JK Rowling has no original ideas at all.”
You say that Harry Potter has no original ideas. I’d like to point out that while writing the Harry Potter series, J.K. Rowling created an entire universe: a whole new society, a whole new government, hundreds of spell incantations and their effects, potion making methods, many more magical information and theory that is revealed in their classes, various species of magical creatures she has invented or edited, a new sport with a history and rules and so many more things that it would take days to list them all here. Stephenie Meyer merely takes two traditional mythical creatures, makes one species sparkle and makes the other shapeshifters that can control their morphing.
Also, on the unoriginality front, Twilight is a teenage vampire romance. There are too many of these to count, a lot of them better written. The Vampire Diaries by L J Smith for example. The main conflicts are quite similar to Twilight, and before you start to defend Twilight to say L J Smith must have copied Stephenie Meyer’s ideas, I’d like to point out that The Vampire Diaries were published almost a decade before Twilight was even an idle thought in Meyer’s mind. Another well-known vampire romance that exists is Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Buffy also had a vampire boyfriend. His name was Angel. One may notice when comparing the two series that there is a very great similarity between Edward Cullen and Angel: constant brooding, weird sticky-up hair etc. However, Angel’s faults are mocked in the series, as one would mock him if he were real. Edward on the other hand is considered to be perfection in the eyes of the characters. Didn’t you say Twilight was supposed to be realistic?
You also claim that a very strong appeal of Twilight is the hot guys. Here are a couple of names for you to consider: Ron Weasley, Fred Weasley, George Weasley, Oliver Wood, Draco Malfoy, Dean Thomas, Neville Longbottom. Enough said.
“Twilight is just so sweet and romantic, a fabuous, timeless tale that will likely be around forever. Harry Potter is just a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters, and has no plot. TWILIGHT 4 EVER!”
Why are you under the impression that Twilight will be around forever? The long and short of it is that it is absolutely typical teenage love story. It is unoriginal in its plot and its themes. Also, Stephenie Meyer herself has claimed to have based Twilight on Pride and Prejudice and New Moon on Romeo and Juliet. Those stories are fine works of literature and Stephenie Meyer has merely created a pale and somewhat pathetic imitation of them. Her other book, The Host, is a lot more original and a much better read. I encourage you to read it. Harry Potter on the other hand is the fastest selling book of all time and has done something no other book has done. It has captivated the minds of children, teenagers and adults. It is loved not just by one age group, but by all. J.K. Rowling will be remembered as a great writer. You also claim that Harry Potter has no plot. On the contrary, it has a highly intricate plot with so many tiny details that present themselves in the most delightful, shocking and ingenious ways. Every time you read the books, you notice something new that you never noticed before and opens up a whole flood of new meaning to what you have read. You also claim that Harry Potter has many crazy ideas. Well, the main idea in Harry Potter is love. It is stated so at the end of the very first book, Dumbledore tells Harry that he is more powerful than Voldemort because he has something Voldemort doesn’t… love. The character of Harry, with his friends and the parents he never knew, represents love and Voldemort, power hungry with not a single friend, represents hate. And in the end of it all, love conquers hate. I understand however that this representation of love may seem crazy to someone who is basing their definition of the word on novels for teenagers.
“Also, Harry Potter teaches you:
· It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.
· Violence is totally cool.
· Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.
· Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.
· It’s okay to escape from jail.
· Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!
· It’s okay to break the rules.
· It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.”
Point one is not very well thought out. Criticising Harry, Ron and Hermione for dropping out of school to fight for love and justice is foolish when the series you are trying so hard to defend contains a character that refuses to go to university and becomes a teenaged parent. Also, Hermione at least actually goes back to school to complete her final year and her exams. I’d also like to point out that in the wizarding world they are all three over age and considered adult members of society.
Point two is completely irrelevant. Harry Potter never once promotes violence. The characters that use violence are the Death Eaters, who are considered evil. The way they act has been compared to the Nazis and is never once considered the right way to behave. Harry for one refuses harm a character called Stan Shunpike who is trying to kill him, and instead disarms him, even though it is very risky for him to do so.
Point three, death is no big deal, and happens all the time. They way J.K. Rowling writes about death does not in any way make it out to be ‘no big thing’. The character of Harry Potter is constantly dealing with death and he does not become at all nonchalant about it. These books make so many references to death, but also how to deal with it. Were you aware of the fact that Harry Potter, in more than one case, has helped people overcome depression? Did you know that there are people who have been suicidal but the Harry Potter have helped them overcome it, some times simply because they wanted to know what happened in the books? A very strong theme in the books is that love is more powerful than death, and this has greatly affected people worldwide in a positive way.
Point four: if your parents died you would be more than a little affected by it. And someone who still had their parents would not be able to understand as well as someone who had. Harry for example finds some comfort and understanding in Luna Lovegood, a character who is incredibly perceptive and has lost a parent as well.
Point five I will interpret as a reference to Sirius Black’s escape from Azkaban. I’d like to point out that Sirius was innocent and was sentenced to lifelong imprisonment without a trial. Even then, he only escaped to try and save the son of his best friend.
Point six, the Ministry of Magic at this point in the series was greatly corrupted, as we can see from the unfair imprisonment of Sirius Black, the Minister of Magic claiming he would change a law simply to get things his own way and a prestigious member of the government illegally setting a soul destroying monster on a couple of teenaged boys. I wouldn’t trust that government either, would you?
Point seven: I would again like to compare the situation in the Harry Potter world in the seventh book to Nazi Germany. The rules were wrong. They were persecuting muggleborn wizards simply because of their parenting, similar to how the Nazis and Hitler persecuted the Jewish people. There is nothing you can say to make that situation seem acceptable. You can’t criticise them for breaking these rules.
Point eight: you consider one of the eight most despicable things in the Harry Potter that they yell at adults? You are reaching Preppy Gurl… Harry does yell at some adults occasionally, but he shows great respect for many of them. He is not perfect, but he is still a teenager. Teenagers will, as will every person, lose their tempers from time to time.
“And seriously, the books are also all depressing. Lots of good characters die, which isn’t cool. And they’re just full of violence, and ridiculous plans. Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible. And there’s no way you could seriously just “apparate” dissappear and reappear somewhere else. And if you tried to hop in a fire to go someplace, “Floo Powder”, you’d burn your face off. It’s just crazy, whereas the scenarios in Stephenie Meyers Twilight series are more realistic and likely to happen.”
Yes, these books do have depressing moments, and many people do die, but this is not unrealistic! It is life, people live, people die, especially in wars, which is what is occurring. War. Again, do I need to make the comparison to Nazi Germany? In wars people die, it is unavoidable, it happens. It’s absolutely tragic but it happens. This is a fantasy fiction series; it is not supposed to all be considered possible, it is still a story. But still, events do occur in these books that could happen in the real world. In Twilight, none of those events could happen in real life. Take out the supernatural element and you are left with a teenage novel; no sparkly vampires, no shapeshifting native americans. Bella would end up with someone like Mike Newton.
“Also, Twilight has:
· Robert Pattison, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!
· Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?
· Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.
· The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters
Harry Potter isn’t all bad, I mean, they DO have:
· Robert Pattison as Cedric Diggory. The ONE thing the producers got right! Don’t even try to deny you don’t rewind just to watch his scenes again!
· Lucius Malfoy. Hot, even for an older guy!”
Point one, Robert Pattison was a lot better in Harry Potter, and a lot more attractive without his face blotchily powdered white.
Point two, there are plently of attractive muscled guys in the Harry Potter series as well, they just don’t feel so insecure that they need to rip of their shirt to display their chests every five minutes.
Point three, Kristen Stewart is a fabulous actor and I have great admiration for her skill… just not in the Twilight series. In these movies she is constantly looking like she has forgotten her lines. The role of Bella Swan destroyed whatever skill she had. I only hope that her acting skills return once the movies are all over. She is much better in some of her earlier movies such as Catch That Kid and Zathura.
Point four, it may have escaped your notice… but the Volturi wear cloaks too. There goes your argument.
Point five, I actually didn’t rewind the movie to watch his scene again. Did you actually do that? That is actually rather pathetic.
Point six, for once you are saying something I can agree with, however, I don’t understand how you could consider Lucius Malfoy to be hot without considering the same of some of the other characters. Obviously you haven’t payed very much attention to the movies or books.
“And that’s about it. Seriously, you want QUALITY literature and movies, watch Twilight. I mean, I don’t HATE Harry Potter or anything, It’s just like, NOTHING compared to the literary BRILLIANCE that is Twilight!
You know it’s true!”
That’s about it? If that is all you can say in defence of Twilight then it’s a good thing that this isn’t a court case, because your client would be found guilty as charged by the jury. As to us knowing all you have said to be true, I don’t think you have had a single comment agreeing with you.
This is my opinion, of course you are perfectly obliged to your own.
Sincerely,
Rain.
You are amazing. You pretty much said everything I was thinking.
oh my….you are bloody brilliant 🙂
i found you little review here a hundred times more interesting and ingenious than the article itself.
you, my friend, deserve a prize for this 🙂
Standing ovation!
Rain, you are my hero. You said everything! 😀
Im on my knees in front of you.
Amen.
Your so smart 😀
clap, clap, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP! YES! THANK YOU!
oh and as a side note, Stephenie Meyer has admitted publicly that “It’s terribly flattering to be compared to her, but there’s never going to be another J.K. Rowling; that’s a phenomenon that’s not gonna happen again.” She knows Twilight is not nearly in the same league as Harry Potter, so I don’t know why you seem so keen to delude yourself.
XD nice
wow… i never thought that i will be agree with something that Meyer said O_O
This is a load of bull.
And since all my reasons have been used up, I’ll leave it at that.
Oh, and if you’re from Fanpop, this is RavenclawPride.
Zanhar, I know you’re here 😛
Hello
Umm hii 🙂
I can more or less argue with everything you said. But I’ll just do afew…
‘* It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself,and not even go with an adult or anything.’
Well, techinally, they were already adults (In the wizarding world, you become of age when you’re seventeen). Also, they weren’t actually hunting Voldemort, they were searching for his horcruxes (parts of his soul)
‘And seriously, the books are also all depressing. Lots of good characters die, which isn’t cool.
By doing this JKR was trying to be more realistic. Because, the truth is, good, kind people die all the time.
The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA. No. They are in NO WAY realistic villians. If they were realistic, they would have hunted Edward or whatever down, not had some kind of ‘Chat’ about it. Plus, seeming as they’re both fantasy novels, the characters don’t have to be that realistic do they. Because to be honest, if Twilight was realistic, Edward (assuming he would still be alive at all-which he wouldn’t) Would not be able to have a child, seeming as he is dead. OR if he could have a kid, would have Downs Syndrome or something like that.
There are alot more points that I could make, but I have neither the time or inclination to do so.
Umm Bii 🙂 x
Alicee
Well first of all, seriously?!?!?!?!?!?! You have the argumentative powers of at 12 year old, which I suspect you are.
I think the first point I’d like to make is the one on death. Jo Rowling doesn’t say that death is no big deal just because it happens all the time, it does happen all the time yet it hurts just the same, like in the real world where deaths occur everywhere yet they still affect you.
Harry Potter shows the importance of friendship and loyalty, and sacrificing yourself for the greater good whereas Twilight teaches you how important it is to have a boyfriend. I won’t deny that too am a Twilight fan but Twilight doesn’t even compare to Harry Potter it just can’t. Harry Potter is timeless and will leave on a legacy even when it’s first generation of readers has gone. There’s a freaking amusement park for Christ’s sake!!!!! What could a Twilight amusment park possibly have? Come ride Jacob’s motorcycle, jump on Edward’s back??? Seriously???
Also I’d like to point out that your most valid argument is that the actor’s are hot. Sure they’re nice to look at but that has nothing to do with the books, hot actors don’t make great literature, writers do.
Excuse me, I’m 12. I have better taste than this preppy little bitch. I also use PROPER grammar and spelling.
I agree with you, by the way. She can’t even tell if someone’s praising her, or praising those who contradict her. How would she be able to win an argument when the Wizarding world is against her, and all she has is her lovey-dovey non-sense?
“NONE of you rebutted ALL my arguments. You CANT deny that Twilight is a timeless tale of love found, then lost and found again. It’s such a sweet romance story!”
Wrong thing to say. Who the hell points something out so others can contradict you even more? She’s incapable of logic.
I don’t see the point of her trying to “prove” that Twilight is better than HP. She’s either really, really stupid or just wants attention. Oh wait, she’s BOTH.
Any person with enough sense would know that by saying crap is better than HP gets you in trouble. But then again, Twilight fans never had much sense.
“Harry Potter is not realistic because magic is impossible.” Well, vampires aren’t real either. FYI, they’re FANTASY books. They aren’t meant to be real.
At least Harry Potter teaches morals and values. Twilight should just be turned into a “WHAT NOT TO DO” book.
Twilight
*abusive relationships
*teen pregnancies
*boyfriends over friends and family
*death is the worst possible thing ever
*evil people should govern (the Volturi is evil, but the Cullens did nothing to overthrow them)
*use your friends
*it’s okay to fall in love with babies
*Twilight is about TEEN LUST
*I’m too lazy to add more. 😐 TEE HEE.
Harry Potter
*everything good in the world. :’)
i can’t remember the rest of the article and i just don’t want to scroll up to it again then scroll down to type, so yeah.
By the way, “preppygurl”, you are immature and idiotic. Die in a fire, like the rest of your sparkly fairies. 🙂
Don’t you hate how people like this ruin it for everyone? People thinking all tenagers are teeny boppers that is. Good job! 😀
good job, pulling out the amusement park card! that’s brilliant 😀
Wow, I hope you expected to get flamed. Like, majorly flamed.
Okay, you say HP is not realistic? You says magic doesn’t happen and that you can’t just disappear? Let’s take a moment to remember what the word “fiction” means. From google, I got “a literary work based on the imagination and not necessarily on fact”. So, let’s see. Harry Potter is fiction, no? That means it’s not based of fact. It’s based on imagination. And if Jo imagines floo powder as working, then she can write about it.
Also, another point on the “unrealistic” deal. That is a very hypocritical statement. You think Twilight is realistic? It has vampires and werewolves. I’m sorry, but I don’t see many of those in real life. Do you? After all, it’s impossible to go at insanely high speeds like vampires, or for someone to be “as cold and hard as granite” like Edward is.
Another point, is that you said “death happens and it’s no big deal”. I’m sure that’s not what Harry felt when Dumbledore died. He was torn. Everyone was miserable. It shows that death is a bad thing, but just like in real life, it happens. Let’s think. It’s a WAR. Of course people are going to die in a WAR! If you think they aren’t, go back to Social Studies class, please. It is a very big deal, and just like in real life, there’s nothing we can do about it.
And with the “HP has no plot” bit. Okay, honestly, talk to your Language Arts teacher and ask her what a plot is. Actually, I can tell you now. Google says, “A literature term, a plot is all the events in a story particularly rendered toward the achievement of some particular artistic or emotional effect or general theme”. Let’s think again (ooh, see how HP fans think a lot, because we actually use our brains?). What is the “plot” in Twilight. Take a moment. It’s okay. Because I’m drawing a blank, too. Now, let’s think of the plot in Harry Potter. Looky there, it came to me in seconds! The plot is about Harry, who is unwillingly forced into a War where Voldemort is trying to kill him (think Voldemort as Hitler and Harry as a Jewish boy). Harry must fight not only for himself, but for all his people (friends), and wins the war in the end. If you want a detailed description of the plot, head on over to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter#Plot and you’ll see how complex it is compared to Smeyer.
I could say so many other things, but sadly I don’t have the time. Feel free to flame this comment, but it’s true, and you know it. Unlike Twilight, Harry taught me not to care what others think and stand for what I believe in. And thats what I’m doing now.
Ultimint proof your a bitch. HOW DARE YOU INSULT PEOPLE BACED ON THEYRE RELIGON THATS HORRIBLE AND EVIL. Im not even a jew and this offends me.
Are you agreeing to prejudice??? There is more wrong with you than i thought.
Omg. You racist BITC#!
her shallowness has no bounds
I’m not Jewish and that greatly offended me. Wow SlytherinForever is right, there is more wrong with you than i thought.
F*** you! I’m Jewish you racist whore!
and are you saying that even though Hitler didn’t target certain jews that his actions were justifiable? You are so ignorant.
I repeat, GO DIE IN A FIRE WITH THE REST OF YOUR SPARKLING FAIRIES.
This goes to show that NO ONE should take your word on ANYTHING.
You are a prejudiced, idiotic, little brat.
I’m 12, but at least I have morals and values. I LEARNED FROM HARRY POTTER.
Mugglism (Muggle Racism) was a big part of HP, and it showed that prejudice and discrimination won’t do ANYBODY any good.
I PWN. 😉
you digusting racist! wow! you carcass fit for hounds! (you see, that insult I used there is based off of something called the shakesperian arts. it’s classical, and has intricate plots, so I’m going to assume you haven’t heard of it)
how dare you. go die in a hole.
Did you just openly admit to being a racist? Honestly, what is wrong with you?
seriously? you would discriminate against Jewish people and defend Hitler in order to defend your stupid book? There is a lot more wrong with you then just being obsessed with sparkly vampires…
Oh my god. Are you actually that narrow-minded and superficial? “I don’t like Jewish people because they’re ugly and wear stupid hats”. Well guess what? I don’t like Catholics because they’re ugly and wear crosses. Like, that’s how pathetic your argument was. *barfs* WordPress is shit. Tell me there are nicer, smarter and open-minded people on this site than you.
You don’t like Jewish people because of their religious wear? Are you f*cking serious? Are you ACTUALLY defending the man who killed millions of people simply because they were born?
You f*cking supremist.
I’m usually a very nice person, who doesn’t like saying things like this to people, but please, Preppy Gurl, go estrange yourself from your family and die in a pit. That is all.
YOU CAN’T SAVE YOURSELF BY SAYING YOU LOVE SHAKESPEARE.
IT’S TOO LATE.
escpicaly now thatyou have become a racist son of a —-
Actually i was pretty happy when Bellatrix only because she is my favorite characters. The series wouldnt be the same if she wasnt there.
i love Bellatrix !! GO BELLATRIX !!! XD
So not only are you a rascist, you didn’t listen in history class.
Facepalm. You astound me. I am ACTUALLY loosing faith in humanity!
I cannot BELIVE you just said that. Clearly there is something wrong with you, and I shouldn’t have even wasted my time responding. How can you say something like that? Are you justifying what Hitler did? Because that’s DEFINITELY what it sounds like. SHAME on you.
In response to what you said about your favorite Shakespeare work being Romeo and Juliette: Did you know that it is widely considered to be one of his worse plays? I personally prefer Hamlet, it really is something spectacular. Also, your favorite is not even an original story by him, did you know that? There was an almost identical novel written about thirty years before Shakespear’s birth (if I have my timeline correct) called Romeus and Juliette. Both that and the better known play you referred to are often today misunderstood to be a tale of true love. In fact, this is very far from the truth. The novel and later play were written as a warning of what NOT to do when you think you are in love, for true love comes from truly knowing a person and not just the external. Just like Bella and Edward, love is not present. Instead we are told that this lustful commune is love.
By the way, when you said that Edward was hot when he sparkled, I thought of this image and started almost hysterically laughing (the one on top):http://courtneysummers.ca/wp-content/uploads/sparkles.jpg
Yah, REALLY sexy with his constipation face 🙂
Oh my god, you bitch! I cannot believe you just said that! I’m not Jewish, but I found that EXTREMELY rude and offensive! “I Don’t like Jewish people and they wear ugly hats.” That’s just sad. And are you defending Hitler in a few ways? UNBELIEVEABLE!
‘timeless tale of love found, then lost and found again’? Umm, let’s see. Edward is a control freak and Bella is a spineless drama queen who can’t do a thing for herself. There is no real love between them! It’s a lustful infatuation.
pretty much
In my lifetime, I have read many things which I regret. This takes the cake! Twilight is a story about a depressed, spoiled little brat who falls in love with a “vampire”. How could you even call him a vampire? He’s sparkly, a “vegetarian”, and he doesn’t even have the decency to sleep in a coffin! And your argument that “Twilight is realistic whereas HP isn’t” is total and complete bull! Harry Potter is all about friendship, triumph, and discovering who you really are. Harry Potter teaches people that it is okay to be different and unique and that there are people in the world who will still love you unconditionally. Twilight is about a girl who can’t control her lust for a (quite ugly, in my opinion) immortal. I would continue, but I don’t feel the need to repeat what everyone else has already said.
“Jo Rowling is a terrific writer while Stephanie Meyer can’t write worth a darn.” -Stephan King
Twilight is about the things people do for love. Okay, I agree. It’s about the stupid things people do when they’re infatuated.
‘The things people do for love’ is a major concept in Harry Potter as well, and I think it’s done much better by Rowling than it was by Meyer, not least because HP includes all kinds of love. Ron and Hermione- and Neville, and Luna, and so many others- stick with Harry all the way to the end, because he is their best friend and they love him. Harry’s parents died to protect him, and his mother’s love is literally keeping him alive. Snape loved Lily, and turned his entire life around because of her, protecting the son of a man he hated to make up for his guilt over her death.
Honestly, you’re either trolling or completely missing the point. Grow up.
“And seriously, the books are also all depressing. Lots of good characters die, which isn’t cool. And they’re just full of violence, and ridiculous plans. Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible. And there’s no way you could seriously just “apparate” dissappear and reappear somewhere else. And if you tried to hop in a fire to go someplace, “Floo Powder”, you’d burn your face off. It’s just crazy, whereas the scenarios in Stephenie Meyers Twilight series are more realistic and likely to happen.”
Uh huh is this really your best argument? Pathetic. You are the epitome of why I absolutely detest Twilight fangirls. You know, I bet you LIKED Harry Potter before Twilight became popular. You say magic is impossible. Okay, sure maybe it is. BUT SPARKLING VAMPIRES AND PEDOPHILE ‘WEREWOLVES’ ARE NOT????? That sounds more ridiculous to me!
And you think the scenarios in Twilight are more likely to happen? Oh yes I know sooooooo many people who meet sexy vampires and become caught in the middle of their ancient battle with ‘werewolves,’ but sticking up for your rights and supporting your friends is far-fetched. Maybe just in your world.
But really, if you’re going to glorify Twilight at least have something to back you up. Just saying that Twilight is awesome because the actors are hot is not legit reasoning. Especially when they’re not. Robert is ugly, Kristin is emotionless (portrays her character well, in that sense I guess), and the only reason they have Taylor is because everyone wants to see him take off his shirt.
Hahaha! Your reasons for why Twilight was better then Harry Potter made me laugh! There in absolutely no Edward is a pedophile and Bella only likes him because he’s attractive. Jacob is a pedophile and Bella only liked him because he was attractive. Rosalie was the only character with a hint of depth. And in the movies the majority of it is Jacob with no shirt on, Edward looking constipated and in need of a good eye brow wax and Bella looking around with her mouth open and a black expression on her face!
like the user name
thank you 😛
your welcome
I’ve read both Harry Potter and Twilight-I regret reading the latter.
Yes, yes. Vampires sparkling is SOOOO creative!
Seriously, did you get brainwashed while reading that Twilight crap?!
Okay, so this is your opinion and all, but I think you kind of completely missed the whole idea of Harry Potter. o_o I mean, I respect your opinion to think Twilight is better (I completely disagree with you 110 percent on it, but ya know…It’s not MY opinion.) but some of the things you said…Okay, well I’ll just start with the list of ‘bad things’ that Harry Potter teaches.
It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything. (And it’s okay to get married right out of high school and then have a baby WAY to young? And to pretty much leave your father & mother in the dark about it?)
Violence is totally cool. (Tearing up vampires and burning them is okay?)
Death is no big deal, and happens all the time. (If you’ve read the books, you would know that Harry, Ron and Hermione grieve for a long while over deaths and those deaths effect them tremendously. And death does happen all the time, by the way. Especially in war. xD)
Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”. (Having a tragic past does give you SOME reason to be a little sad [What would YOU do if your parents died?] By the way, his friends don’t get it because neither of their parents are DEAD. Though it is true Harry could be a jerk about it at times, I’ll give you that. :P)
It’s okay to escape from jail. (Sirius was wrongly imprisoned. o.o Did you finish reading the 3rd book??)
Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!(The wizard government was completely corrupt. It’s good that Harry didn’t trust them.)
It’s okay to break the rules.(So if you’re saying that if there was a rule that you need to murder someone every month for a sacrifice, you would follow it? This has nothing to do with Harry Potter, but I’m just saying that some rules SHOULD be broken.)
It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.(It is true that Harry did shout at Dolores Umbridge and was pretty disrespectful, but she was pretty much saying that Harry is a big fat liar and he was tired of people claiming that he’s off his rocker. xD Excuse him for losing his temper!)
I’m not even going to touch your list for why Twilight is better…They’re all about how hott the characters are. *Shakes head*
While I respect your opinion, I thought you might want to know those things that I pointed out on your lil list. (Because while they may be what you took from the series, fact is not on your side in this matter.) I’m not going to tell you that your opinion on HP vs. Twilight is ridiculous or that you’re stupid and what your saying is bullsh*t, because I respect you for trying to defend what you like.(As the famous writer once said,”I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it!” 😉 Any Harry Potter fan reading this article WILL bash you and accuse you of never reading the books. I just went ahead and did it in a polite way for you. 😀
Anywho, good day to you, PreppyGurl!
But it wasn’t ok for all the other people to escape from jail… they caused mayhem and killed people… No one said that it was ok…
Well, most of the people you’re arguing with LOVE the villians. And since they’re VILLIANS, it’s obviously NOT ok to break out of jail. -_- You just failed.
we should hang out sometime, grab a coffee, talk about the weather, call preppygurl a bitch
good times XD
Still no one said it was ok that they escaped they were death eaters and the gaurds could do nothing about it. They were helped by the villian Voldemort who as real as your hand(srry i am going brain dead)and as evil as the devil!
giatrix pretty much summed it up gienus and in case you didnt know that was sarcasm my dear.
ROFL! That’s the only thing you can say to my reply? XD But seriously, they escaped from jail by the help of an EVIL person. Which obviously puts the escape in a negative light. Which means escaping from jail is wrong. I’m sorry, but your logic fails there.
Okay so the Order of the Phoenix Azkaban escape, how can I put this without sounding like a complete jerk. You know what, screw it. The VILLAINS of the STORY broke them OUT so they would have more people. Also the Dementors turned on the Ministry and were helping Voldemort. TA DA rebutted, thanks for playing!
her logic kill brain cells and rapes the mind
No one said it was okay for dozens of Death Eaters to escape from Azkaban. Bellatrix is one of the most sadistic and cruel characters there are and I don’t think anyone was very happy she escaped from prison to join Voldemort again…
I think you need to read the books again to get your facts right.
The Order of the Phoenix Azkaban escape? You mean the mass breakout of serial killers and torturers? That was never considered a good thing!!! Everybody was terrified at the thought of all those Death Eaters at large again!!! How is Harry Potter showing that it is okay to escape from jail again?
Because Death Eaters only perform good deeds and all. You know, they don’t try to destroy or corrupt an entire civilization for the sake of one ruler and one race. Jo was definitely trying to tell us that Death Eaters have the right idea.
This has got to be the most ridiculous thing i have ever read. Not only do i disagree with you, i feel sorry for you. I feel sorry that you actually think Twilight, a piece of sexist crap, is worth reading. I can only assume you are female so i would advise you to think twice before you condone such an awful book, which in my opinion has only scarred the face of women.
And they aren’t werewolves in Twilight. They’re shape shifters.
So you got that wrong as well.
And if I’m remembering correctly, and yes, I am, Harry Potter had shape shifters as well.
Only they weren’t limited to only wolves.
This is from an article about Stephanie Meyer:
She is well aware of the debt she owes J.K.Rowling. “I’m a big fan. All of us YA [young adult] writers are, especially those of us who write big books. If it weren’t for her, our books wouldn’t even have gotten a chance. People wouldn’t put an 800-page YA book on the shelf because there was no way kids were going to read it. Now everyone knows that kids love big books, you just have to make them interesting for them.”
You just completely ignore her points. Focus on her STATEMENTS, not her assumptions on your gender.
*shakes head* you are starting to seem truly pathetic to me. I pity you, preppy girl (see what I did there? I spelt girl correctly)
I’m sure you of all people, PreppyGurl, realise that your username is not always a true reflection of the person behind it.
Oh my GOD!!! You are such a bitch! How dare you!? What makes you think it’s okay to treat people like just because you have a computer screen in front of you!!! Grow up and learn some respect you SAD LITTLE SKANK!!
Yes I finally snapped. I can’t wait to see what happens when everything catches up with you. You are a disguisting person. You should be ashamed.
Ok, this was such a waste of my time.. Twilight sucks, enough said. I agree with all those awesome people who commented this worthless post!
Ok first of all what is wrong with you? Harry Potter is about friendship and love and doing what is right no matter the circumstance. Wheras twilight is about how your boyfriend is more important than your friends. Bella lies becomes reckless breaks rules and goes suicidal because she is not loved by Edward. Buy Hermione just cries and keeps on helping Harry try to figure things out. She toughs out the pain like a real lady with values would. Sometimes you have to ignore the government and rules, it might not beright but who says they are right to? J.K Rowling came up with things people would have never thought of. Rowling thought me that my friends are important and that so is family death isn’t a big deal because it always happens and even though that person is dead they will remain in our hearts forever. Meyer tried to teach me that being suicidal and reckless for a guy is good and that I should let a guy control my life. And one last thing, magic is REAL!! Magic is love and happiness and peace! It is possible and in our world everything is magic. Your first kiss or finding the one you love or learning new stuff every day. Waking up in the morning is magic to. Twilight is not literature it is crap and should not exist. Harry Potter is literature and deserves to be read all over the world.
Bwahahahahahahaha. That was hilarious reading what PreppyBitch was saying. HARRY POTER FTW!
Okay, you sound like an idiot, first off. Your points about Harry Potter make you sound ignorant as well. Harry Potter drops out of Hogwarts to protect the lives of EVERYONE in the world. He is the only person who can stop Voldemort, which if you read the books, you would know. Then again, you probably can’t read which is why you like Twilight. Your next point in that it makes violence cool is hilarious to me. They are in the middle of a WAR, of course there will be violence. War is never going to not be violent, to think so is idiotic. Then again Twilight promotes PEDOPHILIA, BESTIALITY, and NECROPHILIA! The next point, that death is no big deal, once again makes you an idiot. The book teaches us that death is a NATURAL thing and that you shouldn’t fear it. Also, have you ever lost a parent? If not then SHUT UP! Losing your parents is one of the hardest things to deal with you imbecile! And Harry wasn’t a jerk to his friends until Ron was mean to him, READ THE BOOKS! Sirius Black was INNOCENT that’s why he escaped Azkaban. They assumed that he had killed Pettigrew so they threw him in there, so Sirius thought why not find Peter, who killed his best friend and his wife and kill him. Then he would be in Azkaban for what he presumably did. And Harry doesn’t trust the Ministry in the last book because Voldemort has taken over everywhere. Rufus was CORRUPT! And after the war Harry goes and works for the Ministry. And Dumbledore knew that Harry was going to break the rules. Quoting Lucius Malfoy, Harry Potter will always be around to save the day. He’s saving the day even NOW by giving us a release from Twilight. And Harry was only ever rude to Snape, who was just as mean to Harry. He also was rude to Umbridge because the woman was torturing him on a nightly basis.
Now to your Twilight argument, Robert Pattinson was in HARRY POTTER FIRST, so you got their sloppy seconds. Taylor Lautner is UGLY. Kristen Stewart, while gorgeous is a HORRIBLE actress. She acts like herself in every movie she’s in. The Volturi are NOT realistic, because see, vampires hun, THEY AREN’T REAL! So to top it all off you’re delusional. Little information for you, Voldemort and the Death Eaters are like the Wiccan to Harry Potter’s Pagan. Both religions which are both very much REAL and not a myth like vampires. Also vampires DON’T SPARKLE! They’re evil and suck BLOOD from HUMANS! Read Anne Rice darling, she’s a ton better then Stephanie Meyer with her Mary-Sue writing. Vampires have never sparkled and even if they did, anyone can sparkle given enough glitter.
Your taste is quite simply appalling and you might need to rethink the next book you read. Especially since Harry Potter is going to be around for a long time. Do you honestly think Twilight is going to be remembered in five years? The answer would be NO, because the books are crap and the movies are even worse. Twilight is a fad at best, Harry Potter is a lifestyle because the writing is amazing. The next thing you know someone will try comparing Twilight to Lord of the Rings. That’s how RIDICULOUS you people sound.
While I can respect both books have gotten children to read, Harry Potter did it FIRST and did it BETTER. The Harry Potter trio are better role models then Robert ‘I need a bath’ Pattinson, Taylor ‘I’m jail bait’ Lautner, and Kristen ‘I can’t act out of a shoe’ Stewart.
Well Said!
Is this Ashley huddleston?
Who the hell is Ashley Huddleston?
Nope, my name is Ashley Robison.
YEAH GO GIRL! TELL HER! Even my brother who likes Harry Potter but does not defend it alot got made and was saying that this person is wrong! J.K.Rowling is the greatest writer ever!
I just don’t understand her logic at ALL. And it frightens me that someone can actually be this stupid. It makes me worry for the world just a bit when people like her post stupid things like this.
Oh, sorry, Ashley. I have a friend named Ashley, and she is obsessed with HP and depises Twilight with everybit of her existence! You sounded like her, lol
she has to read Vampire Dairies too !! TVD is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better that Twilight :p
OKAY! WTF? “Harry Potter is all about confronting fears, finding inner strength and doing what is right in the face of adversity… Twilight is about how important it is to have a boyfriend.”
harry potter teaches you how to cope with death, not that its a good thing, and to be couragous and strong stand up for what you believe in and that friendship is important. and twilight is about a 100 year old vampire (who SPARKLES) that emotionally brings down and stalks a really weak 17 year old girl who would do anything to be his girlfriend, like fly to italy and fight a DERANGED VAMPIRE FOR EDWARD (i mean, at least harry does it for the entire WORLD, not a sappy vampire), it teaches you that having a boyfriend is the most important thing in the world. plus it goes into ‘detailed sex-like moments that some 10 year olds are reading. at least harry potter isn’t causing kids to grow up to fast. sides, a 16/17 year old werewolf basically mates with a less than 1 year old girl. besides these twilight people aren’t motivated by love, they’re motivated by lust for forbidden things. sorry twilight=illegal and gross and nasty and bleck. plus harry potter= WAY more exciting.
harry potter is better than edward cullen and math agrees:
cedric digory=edward cullen
voldemort>cedric digory
harry potter>voldemort
so therefore, harry potter>edward cullen
and as you said that “Twilight is a timeless tale of love, then love lost and found again. It shows how love can get you through everything. It’s such a sweet story about the things people do for love.” SO IS HARRY POTTER!!! none of harry potter would have happened without J.K. Rowling’s love for her mother, and lily potter loving harry so much that he survives death. harry’s love for his friends keeps him strong through everything, and most of harry acting as though he hates them isn’t caused by him, its caused by others getting in his head. bella inflicts hurt on herself, and edward just helps that along. sorry twihards you suck.
I don’t even know where to start with this!!!! Twilight is the worst book ever writen. It doesn’t matter if it’s not real. It’s called IMAGINATION! You obviously have none. All of JK Rowling’s ideas are original. Where else have you heard of Floo Powder or Death Eaters? Stephanie Meyer isn’t the slightest bit creative. She didn’t create a new kind of vampire. She created a fairy. Twilight is only about a stupid sparkling vampire, a werewolf that can’t seem to wear a shirt and a girl who can’t choose between the two idiots. Harry Potter has no plot?!?!?! Give me a break! Twilight has NO plot at all! Harry Potter actually is about something.
Harry Potter teaches you about truth, loyalty, friendship, love and to stick up for what you believe in. And who gives a crap about how hot the actors are?!?!?! None of the actors in Twilight have talent and none of them to be honest are that attractive! Twilight is not a “tale of love, then love lost and found again.” It’s about how important it is to have an abusive boyfriend. It does actually take some intelligence to understand the plot of Harry Potter though. Based off of the reasons you think Harry Potter is soooo bad, you don’t understand it in the slightest. Harry Potter is the BEST!!! You are INSANE!!! I think this article is stupid.
~ Mrs.Malfoy
Tooooo true, Mrs. Malfoy. May I also add: How many times have you seen Tw*l*ght on TV? I’ve seen much more Harry Potter on TV and Tw*l*ght never.
Yeah I have never seen Twilight on TV and yet like once a month ABC Family does a Harry Potter marathon.
Twilight is a timeless tale of love?
Sure, but that’s it.
Harry Potter introduces love in a REALISTIC way, through time, jealousy and nervousness, not the “oh he’s hot, I’m in love with him” shtick Twilight throws at you, for 4 books in a row.
You’re saying that Twilight is more realistic than Harry Potter.
Wow.
Okay, yes, magic is impossible, but so are vampires and werewolves.
Especially ones that freaking sparkle. That is not inventive at all, ghat is MANGLING an archetype. You are saying that Bram Stoker and Anne Rice, the TRUE lore novelists, are lame?
Yes, Harry Potter teaches us about death.
But everyone experiences it.
What Harry Potter teaches us:
– Even as a child, you can do something monumental
– When you feel alone, there is at least one person who cares.
– You don’t have to trust adults simply because they’re adults
– Being frustrated and angry without knowing why is part of growing up, and we all grow out of it.
What Twilight teaches us:
– It’s okay to throw everything away, including family, for a hot guy.
– We can play around with another guy if our boyfriend leaves
– Life revolves around needing boy to make you happy.
Harry Potter is about growing up, making friends, standing by your beliefs, having something to fight/live for and good vs evil. And the importance of schoolwork. There are plenty of times in the books where it is reiterated that to be what you want to be, you need to get through school first.
Yes, he left for the last year, but how many kids are going to go fight evil murderers?
IT’S FICTION FOR A REASON.
Twilight could have been written in 2 books or less.
The characters in Harry Potter are believable, 3 dimensional, and everyone can relate to them. Twilight is written like a fanfiction where the plot goes no where because nothing actually happens.
If a legion of vampires who SPARKLE and have mind powers is more realistic than a murderer who can corrupt the government, than something is wrong with the world today.
People grew up WITH Harry Potter from when it first came out to now. And each book hit the mark as far as relating to how you would feel at that age.
I love Vampires, Dracula, Lestat, Nesferatu, they all are true, amazing vampires.
Meyer took that and made them sparkly and annoying. They have no weaknesses.
Vampires are meant to be dreadful creatures of the night who lure mortals to their death. Not cold pretty boys with a fetish for blood.
If they can be killed by anything a mortal could do, then it’s pointless. The struggle between good and evil becomes stagnant.
Hahahah, NO. You cannot say Twilight is awesome because of the actors (who were terrible and cheesy anyway. You wanna see REAL actors, go watch HP, thanks.)
Harry was seventeen in the last one, technically an adult. But that doesn’t even matter, I mean, he’s a trained wizard, and it’s his destiny. Even if it wasn’t, you think he would just act like a helpless foo foo and let Voldy kill his friends and family etc? That’s sooo Bella-ish…
Like Twilight has no violence in it? And some other bad stuff? I mean, really? think things through before you post ’em, hon.
Death DOES happen all the time, and you can’t just wallow around in self pity and grief. You need to let go and move on after a while.
When was Harry rude to his friends? I don’t remember anything like that….And even so, I mean, come on, he has a lot to handle. You know, fighting to the death, facing an enemy that’s come back for revenge, saving sooo many people, dealing with deaths of people dear to him…
Sirius wasn’t even guilty. he had every right to break out of jail, plus, it was to help Harry.
They went against the ministry because the ministry was full of corruption, amorality, and inefficacy, shortcomings that make it blind to Voldemort’s rising menace. SOmething needed to be done.
You wanna talk about a book that breaks rules? Go pick up one of those twilight books I’m sure you carry with you wherever you go, considering it sounds like you use it as a reference as to what to do in life and all…
And bella was never rude to her father: “Oh, Charlie, you’re soooo stupid! You haven’t gotten the hint about my sparkly, possessive, and creepy boyfriend yet!”
The books are this thing I would like to call FANTASY. Heard of it, maybe? These things aren’t true, and we all know that. And are you trying to tell me I’m more likely to meet a couple that’s so in love they can’t stop drooling over each other, and of course they are like magnets, perfectly placed on the earth just for each other (I think I just threw up a little in my mouth after writing that..), or a group of clever teenagers who are rising against an uncertain evil? Hmm, ponder THAT one, why don’t cha?
Quality entertainment? Summit produced twilight, and Warner Brothers produced HP…Twilight just got lucky, as there are a little more than too many obsessed teens (and not to mention their obscene mothers)….
” Robert Pattison, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!
Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles? ”
LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And this is your arguments ? Oh my god. -_-“
‘Ear ‘Ear! Get my reference there?
“You have the the whole world of ear-related humor before you…”
Aaah, the Weasley twins in my heeart!! They have GOT to be THE most awesome people ever XD Their arsenal of pranks could wipe out the Volturi, Cullens and werewo-shape s- whatever, in NO time 😀
You want to talk about love? REAL LOVE? one that does not depend on the amount of sparkle in the skin?
Read Jane Austen. Even in 18th century-settings her female characters are much smarter,sharper,stronger. People make real sacrifices. The characters know of their responsibilities and don’t jump of cliffs without any concerns..
And there is no comparison with HP..Cuz of the one sole reason- harry has real problems..and bella is just a nymphadoodlic sadass..
And if j.k.r isn’t creative can you explain quidditch,hogsmeade,herbology,magical creatures like hippogriffs,gringotts,wingardium leviosa..the list is endless.
Twilight is simply a tween novel for squeeish little girls with a “goffik” twist. Goffik meaning nowhere near the “timeless romance” status you seem to have seen fit to give it. True gothic literature, give that a read and you’ll see what I mean. Of course, judging by your span of vocabulary in this article, I’m not sure you could read some of the, lyk, big words, lolz. I mean, really; have you even heard of Bram Stoker? Mary Shelly? Can you name five short stories written by Edgar Allen Poe wrote? I mean without googling any of their names. I’ll give you a hint on Bram Stoker: you probably don’t know anything about the classic vampire. And honestly, the only original thing Meyer did was make her vamps sparkle; everything else was just a mash-up of vamps from other things, that’s all.
Now for the whole timeless romance thing… give me a break. Seriously; I read all the books. Bella “loved” Edward, Edward played mind games with her through the whole thing. The whole world loved Bella, it seemed–every guy in her school was absolutely fawning over her–when she was just a whiny little emo kid who wasn’t going to be happy with her life until Edward returned her love. Her character was unoriginal, stereotypical, and got into too much trouble with absolutely zero consequences because while half the people in the world were against her, the other half wanted to save her. So… you know what? She’s the classic definition of a Mary-Sue! Don’t know what it is, look it up, I’m not bothered enough to explain it.
And as for all your arguments against the Potter series:
1. All right. Your school has just been taken over by a crazy psycho murderer who’s out to kill you. Are you going to be going there next year? Yeah, I didn’t think so. You might not hunt him–some people make different choices. Whether or not it was okay for them to go without an adult is left up to speculation but honestly, they WERE seventeen–teenagers don’t always make good choices. That’s realism.
2. Actually, it teaches you of the drawbacks of violence. Have you even read the books? I mean, really.
3. Well in the long run, it isn’t. It’s something that has to be worked passed. If everyone’s life just ceased everytime someone died, the entire world would be at a standstill. Until you’ve lost as many people that are close to you as I have, don’t bother trying to push that argument. You’ll understand when you get older.
4. No, it isn’t okay; Harry’s actions in those cases aren’t justified. Never once is it accepted as “okay.” Harry is a realistically flawed character who makes mistakes. How about your dear Edward? Where’re his flaws? Or even Bella, who’s just a human. Seriously, the background characters of Twilight are developed more realistically than the main characters.
5. If you’re wrongly accused of being put in jail, without even being granted the right to a trail, are you just going to sit on your ass and stare blankly at everything? Oh, you are? More power to you. I’d be appealing to parole boards all over the place, and if that didn’t work, you can bet your as I’d be coming up with a logical escape plan. And if you’re referring to Lord Voldy’s peeps, then once again: no, it isn’t okay. But they’re villains, who do bad things. I’ll agree that some of the Death Eater’s causes are a little one-sided, what with their whole pure-blood obsession, but once you start learning a bit more about Voldemort’s background, you learn that he’s probably subject to some severe mental disorders; the type of cult leader Charles Manson was. And he was REAL.
6. No, it’s more a matter of “don’t BLINDLY trust the government.” Just because someone is in a seat of power doesn’t mean they’re good. In fact, you have to keep a close eye on world leaders. Power corrupts. It can change a perfectly good person into a power-hungry psychopath; and just as bad, a weak man in the position of a world leader can panic and abandon his post, leaving the country in anarchic turmoil. If you’re one of the types who trusts your government without actually doing a little research on how things are run and comparing it to how your country’s government officials are indeed running things, then I’m not sure why I’m even trying to talk to you.
7. The government instates a law banning you from free-thinking. Are you going to go brain dead? The government instates a law banning people of different races from being in the same place at the same time–are you really just going to sit there and gawk at the television screen and swallow it all up? Think about the people making the rules; are they just and fair, or are they corrupt, have a few loose hinges? It’s not the rules; it’s those making the rules. The real lesson there is to stand up for justice.
8. Once again, totally off the mark; this isn’t okay. But haven’t some of us done it? Plenty of kids yell at their parents. Plenty of kids yell at their teachers. No, it isn’t okay, but it happens. That’s life.
And yeah, it’s all impossible. But you know what? That’s why it’s of the FANTASY genre. It’s a fantastical story that isn’t of our reality. It is realistic, as far as characters and real-world issues go, but no, the magic isn’t real. That’s pretty obvious. And guess what? OH, sparkly vampires aren’t real either! Good argument. I applaud your lack of common sense and logical thinking.
If you’re judging a series by how hot its actors are, then I’m sorry, but you’ve just failed. I think the lead actors of the HP series are anything but hot, but not all people in life are beautiful. That’s just a fact. The only thing I rewind on the fourth HP movie with Robert Pattinson is the scene where he dies, so I can see Edward Cullen get killed by a little flash of green light. And the Volturi… I’m sorry, but the Death Eaters are just more realistic. No, they’re not nice, and they’re not justified, but cults generally aren’t. They’re justified unto themselves, and no one else. Voldemort was an enigmatic individual who was able to gain followers to a similar cause, people who had either been raised to hate those of nonmagical blood or those who had been corrupted into hating it by events in their own lives. Each character was realistic–albeit unjustified–in their own sense. The Volturi were just your typical badguys, big names who thought they could enlist rules to keep vampires invisible to the public just because of how long they’d been around for, going about and killing those who didn’t follow them. Just typical villainous types. And there are PLENTY of those in real life, of course. Really, give me a break. There are examples of cults like the Death Eaters all throughout history, with a single leader with a corrupted mind (though usually very intelligent in his or her own respects) who is able to convince others of his cause. Not quite the case with the Volturi.
I can agree that Lucius Malfoy is pretty hot, even though his causes aren’t very just. But everything else… you obviously either haven’t read the books or you’re just too ignorant and apathetic to get the morals behind them. Literature isn’t always going to be bright and sunshiney–there’s darkness in every single one of us, in society as a whole, and literature is nothing but a reflection of our own reality. The writers among us understand that. If you don’t, then just don’t venture past your Twilight novels, because I can assure you you’ll never be happen with anything else until you’ve had a little more experience in life.
I COMPLETLY 100% agree with EVERYTHING you said.
I could not have put it better myself.
She obviously has the mental age of a five year old…
Actually, I was smarter at three.
I wish I could get all my thoughts out on here but I’m so angry and shocked that I don’t think I could make a coherent argument at this point.
Thank you for wording the thoughts that I can’t write down at present.
I actually want to repeatedly bang my head against the wall at this child’s lack of intelligence. I’d have a lot more time for her if she could actually BACK UP HER ARGUMENTS and use CORRECT GRAMMAR/SPELLING. I might actually listen to what she has to say, but, unfortunately, she’s just too immature to put together a decent argument, which is obviously why she can prefer The Book That Shall Not Be Named (even calling it ‘great literature’) to Harry Potter.
I have yet to read an intelligent, well reasoned, thought-out argument for why Twilight is better than Harry Potter, completely proving all of our points.
Are you for real?
I mean seriously.
Excuse me while I laugh at the fact that Stephenie Meyer is creative while JK Rowling is not.
LMFAAAAAAOOO. yeah i laughed at that too. this article is so lame.
I feel the need to point out this previously unmentioned gaping plot hole in the Twilight series:
A vampire has no blood, correct? It’s why the girls can’t have babies. So, if a vampire has no blood, it would be physically impossible for Edward to impregnate Bella. Just think about it, my friends. It doesn’t really matter if Rensemee is half-human/half-vampire, because if Stephenie Meyer followed the well accepted rules of anatomy, the baby wouldn’t exist in the first place.
YES.
Not only that, but she completely contradicts herself in saying that ‘vampires have more chromosomes than humans, and so do half-vampires’ and then saying ‘shapeshifters imprint on people who they would mate best with, they have the same numer of chromosomes as humans.’
CREATURES WITH DIFFERENT NUMBERS OF CHROMOSOMES, CANNOT, I REPEAT, CAN*NOT* PRODUCE KIDDIES WITHOUT SCIENCE.
Shmeyer doesn’t know nearly as much as she wishes she did
Also, Shmeyerpires have the same number of chromosomes as potatoes.
Oh, and this is all seventh grade science.
Whattafail.
Harry and Ron get into it, but they make up because true love isn’t only for lovers. It’s for family and friends as well.
What the heck?! That’s pathetic, Twilight is SO NOT better than Harry Potter! Harry Potter teaches people about bravery, love, friendship, dealing with loss, etc. and appeals to people of all ages. Twilight teaches girls to give their education, family, and friends to be whiny, submissive housewives and appeals to mostly teenage girls. And one of the stuff that pisses me off the most about Twilight is the imprinting. Imprinting is not only sexist, but it promotes pedophilia. Like with Sam and Emily, if my boyfriend mutilated a side of my face, I’d call the cops, I wouldn’t stay with him! Another thing is, Bella is insane, she really is. When Edward leaves, she becomes a zombie and detaches herself from everyone. Then Jacob, another guy, comes along. She feels better. What the freaking heck is up with her constant need for a man in her life?! Edward also ticks me off with his overprotective, stalker-like behavior, if I were Bella, I’d stay away from him. Another character that bugs me is Renesmee. Her name is dumb, her existence breaks biological law, and she’ll never be able to live a happy, normal life. I swear, SMeyer must have a very old-fashioned way of thinking or she just makes really crazy plots just for the lulz.
Also, when it comes to girls, the HP girls are much better role models. Hermione doesn’t quit school to become a clingy housewife, neither do Ginny, Luna, Cho, or hopefully, any of the other Hp girls. I just don’t get it, what’s so freaking romantic about a submissive girl clinging onto her creepy boyfriend and living like her friends and family are invisible?!
How long as she had this blog? A couple days? And we’re trolling already. Lulz.
thats really sad on her part
It was posted yesterday. That is how great Harry Potter fans are. We can search and destroy all the twitards in recrod time
go hp fans XD
hahah so true 🙂
hahahahaha. Well when all these die-hard fangirls feebly try to support their reasoning for liking Twilight and attack Harry Potter at the same time, they are really asking for it. You know, I’d bet a lot of them are just looking for this attention…
They are… but there are more of us then there are of them so we’ll always win. And eventually (about a month after the last Twilight movie comes out) they will all forget about Twilight and come running back to us.
Okay, It has only been, a day. 152 comments. WOW. WE ARE AMAZING! HP FANS UNITE!
and attack her !! LOL We’re totally amazing !!
I feel really, really bad for you. I’m so sorry. If you ever learn to appreciate true literature, please come to http://averagewizard.com, where you will be loved, accepted, and welcomed with open arms.
Ok, she’s saying that it’s unrealistic because ‘magic is impossible’.?! RIGHT BECAUSE SPARKLY VAMPIRES AND WOLF PEOPLE AND ‘IMPRINTING’ AND SUPERSPEED and all that gay stuff twilight has is completely real and possible. Gotcha.
To be honest I belive in magic, vampires (not sparkly ones) and all that.
“Okay, SO many people are saying that Harry Potter is better than Twilight. That’s SO not true!”
-Harry Potter is definitely better.
“Twilight is a timeless tale of love, then love lost and found again. It shows how love can get you through everything. It’s such a sweet story about the things people do for love, like Bella goes all the way to Italy to save Edward from the Volturi, for instance.”
-Twilight is the most cliche love story ever written. It’s just like every other love story except with vampires and werewolves. If I got impregnated by a creepy sparkly vampire with gross spiky hair and had to be eaten from the inside out by my mutant child, I don’t think that love would be getting me through that. Drugs would be. Lots and lots of drugs. And the things they do for “love” is a little bit obsessive. I think a nice phone call would have been good enough instead of dramatically flying to Italy and running through a crowd in slow motion to stop someone from showing the world that he sparkled.
“Also, Twilight is MUCH more creative, I mean, Stephenie Meyer created a new kind of Vampire, instead of just using a stereotypical, Dracula type Vampire. I mean, they sparkle, how awesome is that? Plus, they’re MAJORLY hot instead of being creepy. And the werewolves aren’t your typical “full-moon-flesh-eater” type. It shows that Stephenie Meyer is actually creative while JK Rowling has no original ideas at all.”
-First of all, Dracula is a fucking badass. He could kick Edward’s sparkly little butt. Sparkling is not awesome. It’s lame. And who would think that Edward’s constantly constipated look is hot? It’s gross. JK Rowling has amazingly original ideas. Would you be able to come up with a story line that stretches across seven books? Stephanie Meyer only wrote four.
“Twilight is just so sweet and romantic, a fabuous, timeless tale that will likely be around forever. Harry Potter is just a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters, and has no plot. TWILIGHT 4 EVER”
-Twilight is just like every other love story out there. It’s probably going to be forgotten a year after the last movie comes out. It’ll be one of those books/movies that you find in the back of your closet when you’re looking for things to donate to Good Will and go, “Oh I remember this…” and then throw into the trash because even Good Will doesn’t deserve that crap. Harry Potter has been around for much much longer than Twilight. Everything about it is epic and exciting and you never know what’s going to happen next. Twilight is extremely predictable and you get bored after five minutes of reading. And on the contrary, I think that Twilight has no plot. It’s just a mush of sappy love and no details. The Harry Potter plot line is constantly evolving as the books go on and the complexity makes it more and more interesting.
“Also, Harry Potter teaches you:
It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.
Violence is totally cool.
Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.
Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.
It’s okay to escape from jail.
Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!
It’s okay to break the rules.
It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.”
-First off, why would you listen to what a book teaches you? It’s just a book. Death DOES happen all the time, or haven’t you been paying attention to anything your entire life?
-Twilight teaches you that:
It’s ok to leave your entire family, get married to a vampire, get pregnant with a mutant baby and live in a shack in the woods.
Violence is totally cool.
It’s totally reasonable to blow a bunch of money to fly across the world just to tell your lover that you’re not dead.
It’s ok to break the rules.
Having your boyfriend want to literally kill your best guy friend and visa versa is totally fine.
It’s normal to fall in love with a toddler.
You can tell your dad that you’re dead just so you can leave and protect yourself.
“And seriously, the books are also all depressing. Lots of good characters die, which isn’t cool. And they’re just full of violence, and ridiculous plans. Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible. And there’s no way you could seriously just “apparate” dissappear and reappear somewhere else. And if you tried to hop in a fire to go someplace, “Floo Powder”, you’d burn your face off. It’s just crazy, whereas the scenarios in Stephenie Meyers Twilight series are more realistic and likely to happen.”
-You’re seriously arguing the “unrealistic” point? Sorry to break it to you honey, but vampires and werewolves DON’T EXIST. BTW, conflict is the most important part of a story. So even though you think it’s “depressing,” the conflict makes the books interesting, and the conflict is always different. In Twilight, it’s always, “Oh no…the vampires are attacking…again…”
“Also, Twilight has:
Robert Pattison, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!
Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?
Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.
The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters
Harry Potter isn’t all bad, I mean, they DO have:
Robert Pattison as Cedric Diggory. The ONE thing the producers got right! Don’t even try to deny you don’t rewind just to watch his scenes again!
Lucius Malfoy. Hot, even for an older guy!”
-Robert PATTINSON (that’s how you spell it) is the ugliest person in the entire universe, I’ve seen better than Taylor Lautner, and Kristen Stewart is the most horrible actress in the history of the world. I think she may actually be a little bit slow. The Volturi are as realistic as the vampires and werewolves. THEY AREN’T.
-Your points about why Harry Potter isn’t all bad are from the movies. Try to actually read the books before you attempt to post another blog like this.
“And that’s about it. Seriously, you want QUALITY literature and movies, watch Twilight. I mean, I don’t HATE Harry Potter or anything, It’s just like, NOTHING compared to the literary BRILLIANCE that is Twilight!
You know it’s true!
Peace Out!
Preppy Gurl”
-There is nothing remotely resembling quality in the Twilight books or movies. They’re laughable. And LITERARY BRILLIANCE? Who the fuck do you think you are?!
-GIRL is how it’s spelled by the way.
P.S. Your grammar and spelling is horrible.
Bahaha we’re incredible. Really though, we’re trolling. But I’m a sexy troll. Growl XD
Were both shmexy trolls XD
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! This is the funniest piece of shit i’ve ever wasted my time on!
Robert Pattison, Taylor Lautner, and Kristen Stewart all suck big fat dirty balls.
oh and Lmao about the “whereas the scenarios in Stephenie Meyers Twilight series are more realistic and likely to happen.”
you funnay little fuck!
Ahahahahaha!!!! XD
wow, are you serious? have you even read ahrry Potter or Twilight? How is Twilight more realistic than Harry Potter? That is a load of dragon dung!!!! And whats wrong with rejecting government? It the culture doesn’t work than don’t buy it! And Harry is brave and strong and he was of age so he didn’t need an adult wuiht him. And yeah alot of good charecters die, thats what makes it mroe realistic. Twilight is a suagar coated fanatsy about a menatly unstable girl who falls in love with a controling freak. And Harry Potter is a love story, and if you read the last book, you would know that. Twilight has about as much creativity as a pile of dog crap and ahrry potter is a modern classic. Go read some real books.
Everyone take notice how she has stopped replying to everyone because we’re making valid arguments and she isn’t? SANITY HAS PREVAILED MY FRIENDS!
thats how they all are
How can JK NOT be creative if she created a whole world of creatures, spells, people ect. And she never said its ok to brake outta jail and stuff like that. And Harry Potteer has love too. Like Harry’s mom sacrificed her life for Harry’s! How is that not loving! And Twilight is just stupid. Bella has no personality. Also if someone killed your parents, would you get angry at your friends sometimes? I think you would. Also, people die because thats how bad a war is. Lots of people die.
100th comment!
Dang it I wanted the 100th 😦
Lol
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Hey guys, I kinda wanna post this on the Twilight fansite just so we can get a proper arguement going. But I wont…yet >:)
there are no proper arguments from the twilight side. harry potter is better in every aspect possible.
Oh my God.
I’m going to just start with your basic points and then rebuttle on the smaller things later on, because really, every point you make here is absolutely ridiculous.
“•It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.”
First of all, in the wizarding world, 17 is age in which you become a legal adult. Second of all, if they’d have stayed in school, they would have been tortured and murdered. They needed to leave school to stop the total world take-over that was being attempted out of major racism and a lust for power. Also, ‘ok’ should be ‘OK’, and saying ‘or anything’ makes you sound more juvenile, which doesn’t make for a convincing argument,
“•Violence is totally cool.”
Actually, no. Harry Potter supports the exact oppsite view. There are times in the series where the characters are forced to use self-defense against bloodthirsty murderers, so they HAVE to use defensive spells (that will most likely cause damage) to stay alive.
“•Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.”
Harry Potter teaches that there are worse fates out there than death and that death isn’t something that a person should fear for the entirety of their life or make their top priority to defeat. Death happens, everyday, all the time, because it has to at one point or another and there is no way to avoid it. The graves of Harry’s parent practically QUOTE the BIBLE on this! Meanwhile, according to Bella, the worst thing in the world would be to get old and die, which happen to everybody.
•Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.
If your reffering to the Order of the Phoenix, Harry doesnot complain that Ron and Hermione ‘don’t get it’, he’s upset because he feels that he’s been cut off from the world and left in the dark during his time of need- He witnissed the murder of someone he was pretty fond of (Cedric). You would be pretty upset and traumatized too, especially if that dead kid could have just’ve easily been you.
•It’s okay to escape from jail.
You’re referring to Sirius Black? You must keep in mind that Sirius was not a well man. He was someone still stuck in the past, in wartime, as a teenager where the first war did not hold quite so much on the line, and where Sirius didn’t need to be so careful about anything. He was also out for revenge on the man who framed him and sent him into an almost literal pit of despair, a revenge that he could have had easily. This isn’t a statement about jail. This is a statement about this character, how he ends up, and why.
•Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!
Harry’s government treated him and all those it didn’t see worthy like utter s h i t. First, it used propaganda against him and turned the rest of the world against him and showed favoritism. Then, it triedto make him its representative to lie to the people and tell them that everything was just hunky dory, which it sure as hell wasn’t (Remember that mass murderer running around?). I would’ve rebelled, too. After all, that’s what people DO when they’re under repressive governments, because repressive governments DON’T WORK. Digressing a bit, doesn’t Bella not trust her family or the people who try to befriend her and then reject THEM completely?
•It’s okay to break the rules.
He always gets caught for breaking the rules, and most of the time, it’s for a good cause (ex. To save the life of someone in trouble, stop Voldemort from returning to a full life)
•It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.
No, it’s not. that is made very clear. In fact, Harry only does this a couple of times throughout the series.
1: Umbridge. The woman was a controlling psycopathic racist, bent on maintaining order and lies, to the point where she was actually about to TORTURE Harry. The bitch needed to go.
2: Snape: Snape was an asshole. A complicated, emotionally tortured asshole, but was still an asshole to Harry and would constantly take out his bitterness against Harry’s father on Harry himself. He is constantly ignoring and/or unfairly judging the Gryffindors and has a tendency to choose favorites (which is putting it VERY lightly). If it wasn’t for the fact that he loved Harry’s mother and decided to change for HER, Snape would have lead Harry to his doom, and probably not have felt all that bad about it. If you tell me you wouldn’t be yelling at this guy at least once and I’ll write ‘LIAR’ on you face in Sharpie.
3: Dumbledore: Harry had just witnessed a father figure that he had grown extremely close to die, the year after he witnesses Cedric’s death and could do absolutely nothing about either of them. He was feeling alone, and afraid, and angry, and there was nothing he could do about any of this. As Dumbledore points out, the resulting outburst is what makes Harry human and the opposite of Voldemort because it shows that he loves, that he cares and grows attached to people, and that he grieves.
Bella never, ever displays this kind of depth or character.
Next, why you think Twilight is just so amazing.
“•Robert Pattison, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!”
In the real world, the only men who sparkle and are ALLOWED to, by the laws of nature, are either A) Flamboyantly gay men, B) Actors playing a role (Robert Pattinson, I would like to remind you, is not a role, but a PERSON who felt like Twilight was more like Shmeyer’s sex fantasies than anything else and felt very uncomfortable reading it.), C) Harsh comedians, and D) David Bowie, though that goes mostly under actor. Also, the sentence should read “Robert Pattinson: can you say ‘HOT’?” or something similar.
“•Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?”
Muscles. So, does that make all of the Terminator or Alien movies fantastic to? The MUSCLES? Wow. You might as well hang up pictures of pornstars with just as much muscle in your bedroom, instead of Taylor. Also, I would like to point out that Taylor has said that he feels very objectified because of the attention to his muscles and abs. He plans on basically losing them after the movies.
•Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.
Kristen Stewart is pretty? OK. Extremely talented? I wouldn’t go as far as ‘extremely’. She didn’t display any of the talent she used in The Panic Room or Zuthura in Twilight. Then again, she WAS playing a cardboard role… (BTW- ‘Kristen Stewart: An extremely talented etc., etc., etc.)
“•The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters”
I would like to remind you that the Volturi were also ‘freaks in cloaks’, though they were QUITE the wimpy villains compared to Voldemort and the Death Eaters. For one, Voldemort and the DEs had no mercy and no remorse, the way no actual psycopaths would have any mercy or remorse. If there was a chance that you would get in Voldemort’s way, he would cruelly torture and kill you. And you know what? Most of the time, he would LAUGH while he was doing it. Same goes for Bellatrix Lestrange. In fact, if he and the DEs had been in the Volturi, they would have eradicated the Cullens at the first sign of a threat, the way any evil superpower (such as the Nazis, who V&theDEs were based off of, for example) would. If not then, then the moment the knew that Bella knew about ‘vampirism’, she would have been killed and then shown to all the other ‘vampires’ in the world as examples for what happens to you when you break the rules. (Also, there should be a period at the end of your sentence.)
If anything, Twilight cannot be compared to the BRILLIANCE of Harry Potter. Jo Rowling had every plot twist and turn planned from the beginning, whereas Shmeyer had no idea what she was going to do with her books or characters.
Please, do tell me if I missed anything, if there are any inconsistencies, or if there are any subjects you believe I didn’t address. 🙂
She obviously hasn’t read the books. If she had then she would have read what happened to Neville while he was attending Hogwarts. And she would realized that even though Harry was in the fact of certain death he never used ‘Avada Kedavra’ which showed everyone that he was a good person until the end.
Thank you. There is some sanity left in the world.
I completely agree with EVERYTHING you’ve said.
I’d say it all myself but I think everyone’s already covered it all.
I am actually fuming right now.
It’s people like PreppyGurl who make me lose faith in the human race.
Thank you so, so, SO much. 🙂
But don’t lose faith in the human race- there’s still plenty of good out there!
Ummm… here! (If you haven’t seen this already.) They are pro- HP and a song of their about Deathly Hallows is actually what made the, so big. I hope you enjoy this as much as I have! 🙂 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyQi79aYfxU
Ooooh, Vlogbrothers! Yes, I know them.
I am a Nerdfighter. I take it you are, too? 😀
you’re kidding right?
Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible.
yeah… because is a lot more realist that a criture of the night and dark spark like a damn fairy… yeah sure!!!!
LOOOL
TAYLOR AND PATTINSON ARE JUST PHOTOSHOP!!!! Please wake up! JK rowling has no original ideas??? yeah, sure, a magical kingdom with lots of creatures and lots of advetures and exciting moments and a evil guy that want to kill you and another totally different way to believe in magic is sooo cliché *sarcasm*
Twilight is about how important is to have a boyfriend and go mad because of him, and isolate from your frends… that’s so yoohoo!!!
Harry Potter is universal. Anyone of any age could read it and love it.
Twilight is for girls only. Usually around 13.
wow… i can’t believe you all waste your time writing snobby comments about each others opinions… ok so some people like twilight better then harry potter, big deal! they’re just books! exciting books, but still they are just books! heck i can’t believe i just wasted like 10mins reading some of your comments… and then wrote this little scolding message that i’m sure none of you will actually take seriously and end up bashing me as well… oh well…. i hope you all find something more exciting and rememberable to do after you leave this page! have a nice life where ever you are!
Well, I have more important things to do, like homework. But this is fun. CUZ WER TROLS. Well, now we are.
I’m not bashing you (mebbe just tapping lightly) but we’re having fun here, so piss off 🙂
We won’t bash you ^-^ I should be studying but this is almost like being part of Dumbledore’s Army.. Except online and less badass. 😀
HUH?
you didnt read harry potter you wouldnt understand
You seriously need a reality check. Might i suggest you talk to a therapist? But lets face it Twilight just cannot stand up to HArry potter, sure Twilight has thousands of screaming fan girls but the majority are just going with whats supposed to be cool. I personally know a girl who only wears a Twilght shirt becasue all of her firends do, but don’t worry I set her straight. I can already tell you that the fan base is dieing out. I personaly used to like Twilgiht, I know i used to be ono of them, but I got tired of the brain washing, which is clearly takeing place her. I can tell you as a fact that many of the people that I know who used to like twilgiht are now haveing book burning parties. Yes the are burning twilgith books and i will happily join them. And the deaths of the all the “good” charecters makes it more realistic. Harry has to learn how to deal with the deaths, not just ” ooh my contoling boyfirnd ran away to italy” Bella needs to get over self and grow a pair of balls and stop crying and feeling sorry for herslef all of the time. Harry never wallows in self pity. And on what planet are robert pattinson and taylor lautner more attractive than Tom Felton and Oliver and James Phelps?? And in what universe is a band of sparkling vampires more realistic than wizards fighting the ultimate bad guy? THEY ARE BOTH CALLED FICTION FOR A REASON!!!!! And the ministry was corrupt, Harry had a damn good reason to reject it, and if no one ever rejected govenment we would still be part of England, If America didn’t reject the king there would be no America!!! There would probably still be slavery today too. Are you saying you still want to be under tho control of England and you want slaves? I would watch your back if were you. And J.K. Rowling shits more creativity then Stephanie Meyer could ever even dream of having. Twilight pretty supports the idea that women just exist the serve me, while Harry Potter has many strong and independant women charecters who stand up for who they are. Just look at Bella and Hermione, Bella sulks around all day, spending all day to erve her father and edwdard and barley amkes it through and can’t even do homework herslef. whil Hermione take s all of the available classes and excells in ALL fo them, Hermione is the top of her class and helps Harry and Ron, not the other way around, Hermione doesn’t just stand there and do nothing while everyone else takes care of her. The voultri are just glorified bullies wher as Voldemort, yes i dare say his name, and his death eathers have the wizarding worl and the muggle world terified to even say his name. Crab and Goyle could out smart the Voulturi, and that is really saying something. Believe what you want I guess, but after the last movie is done and over with, you and your brain washed army of fan girls will move on the next fad, while all of us Potterheads will just sit back and laugh over our mugs of butterbeer. But I will give Twilight this: You did bring all of us fans together, even a Gryffindor and Slytherin can agree on one thing, Twilight Sucks. So thank you for bringing us together in our hate for you and everything you stand for. HARRY POTTER FOREVER!!!!! FOR DUMBLEDORE’S ARMY!!!!!!!
You seriously need a reality check. Might i suggest you talk to a therapist? But lets face it Twilight just cannot stand up to HArry potter, sure Twilight has thousands of screaming fan girls but the majority are just going with whats supposed to be cool. I personally know a girl who only wears a Twilght shirt becasue all of her firends do, but don’t worry I set her straight. I can already tell you that the fan base is dieing out. I personaly used to like Twilgiht, I know i used to be ono of them, but I got tired of the brain washing, which is clearly takeing place her. I can tell you as a fact that many of the people that I know who used to like twilgiht are now haveing book burning parties. Yes the are burning twilgith books and i will happily join them. And the deaths of the all the “good” charecters makes it more realistic. Harry has to learn how to deal with the deaths, not just ” ooh my contoling boyfirnd ran away to italy” Bella needs to get over self and grow a pair of balls and stop crying and feeling sorry for herslef all of the time. Harry never wallows in self pity. And on what planet are robert pattinson and taylor lautner more attractive than Tom Felton and Oliver and James Phelps?? And in what universe is a band of sparkling vampires more realistic than wizards fighting the ultimate bad guy? THEY ARE BOTH CALLED FICTION FOR A REASON!!!!! And the ministry was corrupt, Harry had a damn good reason to reject it, and if no one ever rejected govenment we would still be part of England, If America didn’t reject the king there would be no America!!! There would probably still be slavery today too. Are you saying you still want to be under tho control of England and you want slaves? I would watch your back if were you. And J.K. Rowling shits more creativity then Stephanie Meyer could ever even dream of having. Twilight pretty supports the idea that women just exist the serve me, while Harry Potter has many strong and independant women charecters who stand up for who they are. Just look at Bella and Hermione, Bella sulks around all day, spending all day to erve her father and edwdard and barley amkes it through and can’t even do homework herslef. whil Hermione take s all of the available classes and excells in ALL fo them, Hermione is the top of her class and helps Harry and Ron, not the other way around, Hermione doesn’t just stand there and do nothing while everyone else takes care of her. The voultri are just glorified bullies wher as Voldemort, yes i dare say his name, and his death eathers have the wizarding worl and the muggle world terified to even say his name. Crab and Goyle could out smart the Voulturi, and that is really saying something. Believe what you want I guess, but after the last movie is done and over with, you and your brain washed army of fan girls will move on the next fad, while all of us Potterheads will just sit back and laugh over our mugs of butterbeer. But I will give Twilight this: You did bring all of us fans together, even a Gryffindor and Slytherin can agree on one thing, Twilight Sucks. So thank you for bringing us together in our hate for you and everything you stand for. HARRY POTTER FOREVER!!!!! FOR DUMBLEDORE’S ARMY!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, I made a few type-o’s I was mad and just wnated to get my meassage out!!
same here, we forgive you
Thanks, us HP fans are so understanding.
no problem hp 4ever
Wow…all the post are in HP side..and there´s no one defendign your point of you…GOOd that means that there still are people who can read a book and distinguish fiction from real life…girl please wake up and look around this is the real world and if your gaol in this life is only to have a boyfriend, and be pretty…let me tell you the true…boys/men who treat you like trash doesn´t deserve to be love, it´s not right to play with the feeling of others because life is a mirror and all the bad things will return to you, to have a goal/carrer in life should be your priority, never let your happiness in the hands of other because you will never be happy, death is part of life and life is part of death, the human been becomes inmortal by his/her achievements in life and the good things that he/she does for the world and human kind…
Judging a book by the hotness of the character just show that you are a very shallow person and that you don´t have the intelligence to understand the real message of it.
Something that I want to add to all that has been said is that it is very common, a lot, that evil people take over the goverment and murder those who try to defend their rights and freedom, and does who sacrifices their lifes, not only for their family and friends, becomes inmortals in the pages of history…in twicrap inmortality is more a carnal-shallow theme that it´s reduce to the importance of been pretty for ever and never growing old, beacuse old people are ugly and they don´t deserve to live…oh and if you didn´t notice all you ´´arguments´´ have been demolished
Bahaha this is too easy.
way to easy
You make me laugh. You really think twilight is better than Harry Potter and Jk Rowling has no creativity? Actually, Stephanie Meyer has no creativity. She stole ideas from Harry Potter. The last name’s Clearwater and Black were in Harry Potter first. Plus, Jacob Black is not a werewolf. A werewolf is cursed to change only at the full moon and doesn’t remember who he, or anyone of his friend are. Jacob is clearly an animagus. He can change out of his own free will. And Robert Pattinson is not hot. And Kristen Stewart is not talented. She has no emotion whatsoever.
This is the biggest piece of crap I’ve ever seen. There’s nothing good about Twilight. It’s just full of sparkling, gay vampires and werewolves. There’s nothing creative about what Smeyer did. She just jacked up the legends and turned vampires into sparklepires. Harry Potter actually has life lessons let me tell you, it doesn’t teach any of the things you said is did. Twilight teaches you that it’s okay to jump off a cliff if your boyfriend dumps you and that you have to depend on your boyfriend for everything. Not only is Twilight a disgrace to the liteary world, it goes against pretty much everything women have done to show that they can do whatever men can do. Harry Potter has much better life lessons and it actually shows that the good and bad die, unlike Twilight where only the bad guys die and the good live forever. As for Twilight having Robert Pattinson, Taylor Lautner, and Kristen Stewart, so what? Who cares? It doesn’t make the story any worse or better. They’re all actors and the fact that they’re in the movies isn’t a valid reason as to why Twilight is better. That’s basically saying that Harry Potter has Daniel Radcliffe, Rupert Grint, and Emma Watson. That doesn’t effect the Harry Potter storyline at all, even though, in my opinon, Daniel, Rupert, and Emma put Pattinson, Lautner, and Stewart to shame.
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Oh, has no-one rebutted all of your arguments yet? Oh goody. *cracks knuckles and wiggles fingers over keyboard* Here we go then 🙂
Well first off, your title is wrong, you got Harry Potter and Twilight mixed up. To present a logical argument, you can only really argue for Harry Potter being better. Just saying.
Many people ARE saying Harry Potter is better than Twilight. Congrats on one of your only truthful statements in your entire post! Well done! Sadly, your next sentence lets you down. It is, in fact, very true.
I would hardly call Twilight sweet. It’s all about messing around with people’s feelings, creepy demon babies, paedophilia and bestiality. It is not timeless, this phase will blow over as soon as the tweeny-bopper fangirls grow up. The people commenting before me are correct; the story is based more on lust, and physical looks being a basis on which to create a relationship, rather than trust, love, and actually liking the person for who they are, what they think, etc.
And here is where your argument descends into idiocy… Twilight is FAR less creative. It is based around the average hum-drum life of a teenage girl, ridden with foolish angst over boys. I could pull any teenage girl off the street, ask her to describe her life thus far and get the same result. Mind numbing banality. Granted a few vampires and werewolves-that-are-actually-shape-shifters are thrown in there, and thus you do have the basis for a good fantasy story. But she barely changed the two creatures at all, everyone is familiar with them both. Mayer added glitter, got rid of sucking human blood (for some) and took away the moon. Congrats, you now have two beloved mythological creatures that have been the stuff of nightmares for years, and taken away all that was good and creepy about them. Bravo Smayer.
As for JKR having no creativity, have you actually read the Harry Potter books? Ever heard of Dementors, Thestrals, Bowtruckles, Pygmy Puffs, Puffskeins, Kneazles, Nifflers, Blast-Ended Skrewts… not to mention various existing mythological creatures she introduced like the Hippogriffs, Manticores, Giants, Goblins, Unicorns, Centaurs, Phoenixes, and yes, Vampires and Werewolves… Need I go on? For further reference, please read Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them. And all that was just about the creatures. Don’t even get me started on the lessons, people, places, magical concepts and everything else.
Now you just repeat yourself about Twilight being timeless and romantic. It is not. Move on.
If Harry Potter is a mash-up of all these things, how can you really say there is no plot? All these crazy, bizarre and freaky things are what makes the books so great! They are quirky, original, and have so much damn plot and subplot you could re-read them many times and still find something new to interest you. If you re-read Twilight many times, all you are likely to do is find new adjectives for the words “cold” and “pale”. Reading a dictionary has the same results. I suggest you do this, you may just find yourself able to create a better argument this way.
“TWILIGHT 4 EVER!” No, Twilight for a few more years until the fangirls grow up and calm down, and please use proper words. “For” and “four” have two very different meanings, please respect this.
Now for the list of things Harry Potter teaches you…
The trio were 17 by this point, and legally allowed to leave full-time education. This is the way it works in Britain in any case, there may be different rules elsewhere. If you will recall, the adult characters were mostly against them leaving school, and they are the moral voice of the story. They left to rid the world of a group of people who were planning on killing many innocents, since they were the only ones with the knowledge of how to, and in my book is a pretty valid excuse. Harry, Ron and Hermione would all have been in danger if they went back, and Hermione did in fact return to complete her seventh year after the war.
Violence was never thought to be “totally cool” hence why the villains of the story used it, and Harry defeated Voldemort with a spell made simply to disarm. He never wanted to kill. Harry’s mother used the power of love and sacrifice to save him, hence is the exact opposite of violence. How many fight scenes between the vampires and werewolves were there in the Twilight series? I will leave you to count that one up, but you may have to start using toes, as you will run out of fingers pretty soon.
Death does happen all the time, I’m afraid to say. Particularly during war time. It would be entirely unrealistic for JKR to save all the characters, and she did have to kill off some of the more prominent ones too. It would be very odd if none of the order members died, since they were in many of the skirmishes. In fact, it’s a bit of a stretch that Harry, Ron and Hermione all made it out alive, to be honest. A very huge deal is made out of every death, Harry grieved for Cedric and Sirius for the rest of the series, but it wasn’t shown to be the end of everything. A lot of PLOT was going on too, which occupied a lot of time! But it was shown that while death is awful, you can move on. If we all embraced that, the world would be a happier place.
Harry was a bit of a jerk to his friends, but hey, he’s human and had every right to be upset. Far more right than Bella did when she snubbed people who were friendly to her when she started school. That sort of attitude is what we should be DISCOURAGING not condoning.
In all fairness, Sirius was innocent when he escaped from jail, and only did so in order to save his godson from a murderer who he believed was a threat to Harry. The Death Eaters who escaped from jail were certainly in the wrong, and were punished for it. And Sirius never really got to enjoy any sort of freedom anyway, so you could say he was punished too. Despite not deserving it.
The Ministry of Magic was entirely corrupt and hopeless. I think the moral here was to question you government instead. Don’t just blindly follow them simply because they have power. It was encouraging free thought, rather than rejecting all authority. If our governments were quite as corrupted as the MoM, there would be a public outcry and the leader would be ejected, I would hope. The ministry was much better after it went through a re-haul, or did you forget this?
Sometimes, they have to be broken. Yes, quite a lot of the time, they were in the wrong to break the rules, but again it shows the characters to be human. No-one lives their lives following rules to the letter, and the characters in Harry Potter only really did this for good reasons, or in harmless ways. Or were just punished for it.
True, you may have a bit of a point there, but Harry was mainly only rude to Snape, and there WAS a lot of reasonless animosity there. Harry was punished for it, and eventually learned that Snape was a good guy. He named his son after him, and forgave. He grew up, in other words, from petty name calling. And it was DAMN funny besides!!!
There are some depressing parts to Harry Potter, but it reflects life, and if everything was all jokes, rainbows, sunshine, and happy gambolling bunnies, it would be a pretty cruddy story. There are depressing parts to Twilight too, such as when Edward left Bella… hardly a real reason to get depressed over. She should have realised that having a boyfriend isn’t everything, and moved on, instead of crying for days. She is a HORRIBLE role model for young girls.
Ooooh, so now you’re calling some characters good, eh? Do they aren’t all “freaky” now? Way to change your tune there 😛 No, it isn’t “cool” but it is realistic, and endears us more to the books. Heck, if Edward and/or Bella died, I would feel endearment towards the Twilight book too Although they aren’t good characters… bad example, sorry!
Magic is impossible. Hazzah, another truth! However JKR writes it in a way that could be true. In that there are secret buildings and people around us who live in a magical world. She gave them familiar situations, and made them human. Plus… it is a fantasy story. It is kind of meant to be not real. This is why we have a “Fiction” and “Non-Fiction” side to every library. You would know this if you paid one a visit to read some decent literature. Oh yes, Twilight is VERY realistic (note the sarcasm) You often find that pale clumsy teens are lusted over by two supposedly hot mythological creatures. It is a teenage girl’s fantasy. FANTASY! If you see vampires and werewolves in your own daily life, I would very much like to hear about it. Then we can send over some nice men with white jackets to take you somewhere safe. There will be rooms with squishy walls! Doesn’t that sound fun!!!
Okay, you consider Robert Pattinson hot. Fair play, it doesn’t rock my boat, but people like different things. (also I notice you spelt his last name wrong… yikes) Taylor Lautner does have sexy muscles. As a female with eyes, I accept this. Kristen Stewart… she is beautiful, in a way, but I can’t say I’m fond of her acting… It’s all pretty emotionless and same-y. Then again, it IS a perfect characterisation of Bella, so in that way you could say she does a decent job. (I have noticed how all of these so far have been about the actors, not the books… It’s pretty shallow to base your liking of the series to the hotness of the actors, isn’t it? I could natter on for a while about how hot I find Tom Felton to be, but I won’t bore you with it like you have for me) The Volturi… I actually can’t really comment much on these since I do not remember much about them, but I believe they are the ones in flamboyant dress and old fashioned accents, correct? Not exactly realistic, but I suppose Voldemort isn’t that much when you consider his looks also. Once again, these are FICTION! But when you think about it, Voldemort is just an orphan who grew up unloved, found a way to gain power over others, was twisted by dark magic, and was prejudiced, based on his childhood experiences. This rather reminds me about Hitler, if I’m honest, in that he tried to wipe out a race of people because of what happened to him in earlier life, and played upon other people’s hatred of them also in order to gain power. Pretty realistic if you ask me.
No. I really don’t rewind just to watch the Cedric scenes again. Robert was pretty well cast for Cedric, and was a good actor back then. *sighs* Oh Robert, what has become of you? You had so much promise. Yeah, Lucius is pretty hot too I will give you that one! But once again, you are considering the MOVIES not the books. We all know that the movies are hardly a good indication of the quality of the books.
Literary BRILLIANCE!?!?! I’m sorry, what? Are you being serious now? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *laughs for a day* Oh that was a good one! *wipes tears from eyes* I haven’t laughed that hard since I found out that all those jokes about Bella’s demon baby ripping out of her and being perved on by Jacob were true! *chuckles* Smayer does have a certain writing style that is somewhat enjoyable, fair enough, though she could do with a lot of editing (now many ways can you describe Edward anyway?) but she is NOTHING compared to the quirky, and simply fantastic writing, imagination and whimsical humour of J.K.Rowling. In popularity JKR is flagging somewhat, since the books are all done and people find Robert and Jacob hot, but the Harry Potter series will never dim in brilliance.
And no, I don’t know it’s true, because it really isn’t.
I hope you enjoyed my long winded, logical, truthful rebuttal. I could go on to talk about my own love for Harry Potter, how it encouraged so many children to read, it has inspired music, musicals, art, fanfiction and even puppets, and most of all shown the world the importance of love, friendship and bravery through the eyes of an untidy boy with glasses… but I think you will see my point.
Harry Potter is amazing, Twilight is trash. End of story.
I. LOVE. YOU.
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
I actually could not have said this better myself.
I agree 12837289372891737476% with everything you said.
I could waffle on for ages but I’m going to keep it simple:
Harry Potter > Twilight
Why thank you Beth, I am pretty fond of you myself 🙂 *goes on to wax poetical about your eyes/skin/body temperature* ‘Cause that’s not creepy when it’s about someone you barely know, right?
12837289372891737476%??? Wowsa, I feel flattered! *blushes*
I wish I had the power to stop waffling on for ages… it is a talent I distinctly lack. HAZZAH SHE TALKS SOME SENSE!!! You are why I have hope for the world 🙂
Bamboozlement, just one thing I would like to point out, which I have only seen one person say. Taylors abs are NOT real. Photoshop, baby. Can do it to anyone, anytime. Same thing with Roberts, PHOTOSHOPED. But, I agree with you everywhere else. 😛
Photoshop or no, thems be some smexeh muscles!!!111!! 🙂 It really scares me how people talk about them all the time… I mean reeeeeeally. I went to see New Moon (so I could not be told “OMG you kno nuffink, cos Edward is teh hot!” and hey, I will try anything once) And I considered fleeing for my life when I heard middle aged women talking about how smexy they thought Lautner was. And if Robert is photoshopped, then technology is not as advanced as I first thought.
i love you
*sniffles and bites fist* I love you too, man! *watches you sleep* It is fascinating to me. *smiles*
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING BAMBOOZLEMENT SAID. Except for this: “In popularity JKR is flagging somewhat, since the books are all done and people find Robert and Jacob hot”–JKR’s popularity is a different kind than what Stephenie Mayer is enjoying right now. I don’t know. I feel somewhat JKR’s popularity is more serious than Stephenie Mayer’s. Give it a few years, if Stephenie Mayer doesn’t come up with another Twilight teeny-bopper novel, she’s totally gone. As for JKR, it’s been more than a decade since she started Harry Potter, and she’s only gaining more fans.
Obviously, Preppy Gurl, you have not read any of the Harry Potter books. A glimpse maybe, but actually reading it and absorbing it, opening yourself up to the book, letting it take you away, you didn’t. And you SUCK. And not everything has to be realistic. Haven’t you ever heard of magical realism of which BOTH Harry Potter AND Twilight are classified under? READ MORE BOOKS.
Harry Potter is amazing, Twilight is trash. End of story.
I HAVE READ ALL THE TWILIGTH BOOKS!
I agree with you completely about the popularity. I think I was trying to remark more about the trends… I’m thinking of Harry Potter more in terms of a strong, long-running love that will likely continue for many, many years, and Twilight as a brief descend into madness, like a wave of lust. OH quite like the relationship between Bella and Edward really 🙂 I like when things like that work out! Harry Potter will get back on top (where it probably has been all along, except our fans don’t do crazy “EDWARD IS TEH HOT AND SPARKLEH” “NUH UH, JACOB HAS SMEXEH MUSCLES, YOU DIE NOW BITCH” so it just seems as though Twilight is more popular for now.
Your second comment made me smile, punch the air and go “HELL YEAH!” 🙂
OMG, i love you.
this is exactly how i feel. i mean i was once was a twi-hard when the first movie came out, but then i rediscovered my love for harry potter which was lost at the time, being blinded by Edward’s sparkly-ness.
and this person’s reasons for how twilight is such a great book/movie over harry potter aren’t even good ones. I like your reasons on how it is not good reasons, might I add. I mean, JK Rowling made up new words. NEW WORDS. I mean, did Meyer do that? No? Alright then, do not insult JK Rowling for not having creativity, little naive person.
I mean, let’s get real, (this is towards the person who wrote this, not the person writting the comment) Bella got so depressed for Edward leaving her that she stayed in a spinning chair for 3 months! 3 MONTHS, I mean I’d be upset that my bf would leave me but I wouldn’t ignore all my friends and stay in a chair staring out my window for 3 months until I visit my werewolf best friend cause my dad said so.
and let me just say something else to this person who wrote this article on Twilight being better than Harry Potter :
Harry Potter is the best thing in my life and others as well. It teaches a story of friendship, love, and other stuff that I can’t think of right now. But it’s bloody brilliant. These stories were my childhood and will always be my childhood. Twilight everyone begun fan-girling over this only 2 year ago? Harry Potter has been having people fan-girling over this for over 10 years now. I mean since the beginning of the books people have been going nuts and Deathly Hallows is the highest selling book ever, fyi.
You Need To Get Your Priorities Straight as Ron Weasley would say.
That comment you just wrote, that one, right there? *points to the glowing brilliance of it* It has made me love you too. Shall we gambol in the forest until we come across a meadow, in which we shall strike a model-esque pose and sparkle as if it is perfectly normal, while various fangirls melt into puddles of squealy goo at our feet? I think we should!
You would have thought that if she sat in a swively chair (damn those are fun, she sure picked a good spot to brood!) for that long she would get pretty dizzy and just topple to the floor sooner or later. I would like to have seen that… bring some realism into the movies, you know.
Ending with a Ron quote… sheer brilliance! 🙂
Finally some truth in the world 😀
Preppy gurl or whatever you call it, is oblivious
Yay HP!!!
PREACH SISTA, PREACH!!! *cue choir is spangly outfits* Completely oblivious, I do not how how you can live being that unaware of the world…
HAZZAH for the boy-who-lived-to-bring-magic-into-our-lives! 🙂
Just like Harry Potter is the hero to the Wizarding World, you are my hero via the World Wide Web. Thank you, oh gracious one, for pointing out the flaws in this pathetic attempt to explain why Twilight is better than Harry Potter.
*gasps blushes and stutters out a response* I-I’ve never been reffered to as a “gracious one” before! That’s certainly new! *considers adding it to name* Thank YOU for the amazingly lovely reply, you have brought a smile to my face and a spring to my step! 🙂 May the Potter be with you.
I agree with everything you said, so thank you, for you bloody brilliance 🙂
and kudos to you for putting out the point that you can discover things to interest you every time you read harry potter. I’ve got to be into at least my tenth time reading the series, and I still find new things every time I read them 😀
Why thank you! I know exactly what you mean, it’s so good to re-read them and find out that “Hey, Harry did have a reason to dislike Ernie the Hufflepuff” and the hilarious different floors in St Mungos, and other odd things such as that 🙂 There is so much PLOT you see, you can’t remember all of it in one sitting *snickers*
thank you so much. that was a brilliant rebuttle to this utter nonsense. The Twilight so called ‘argument’ made me wanna use crucio on myself, where as your lovely argument made me feel as though i just won the quidditch world cup. I think if nothing else, you can draw one conclusion from this. Obsessive Harry Potter fans are far more clever than the silly girls who are obsessed with how jacob black’s abs look.
Thank YOU so much as well! I feel your pain, I just took out my aggression on my poor keyboard, rather than myself. *pets it* Poor thing, after that whirlwind of indignant typing half the “A” marking is missing. 😦 Wowsa, I didn’t realise my ranting was that happy-inspiring! *blushes* Your last sentence makes me wish to hug you. In fact I shall hug you. I do not care if it is creepy, I’m just going to go ahead and do it *sets off for your current location, arms outstretched*
yes!! i do not find a hug from a fellow wizard creepy at all! *hugs back* ~8) i say all of us wizards get together and do some sparking-vampire hunting, we’ll leave the evil, human killing ones alone, seeing as they are real vampires and by the looks of these twilight fangirls, im afraid that the real vampire may go on the endangered species list. but then again, they may not cause it would take a real vampire five seconds to kill Edward in the middle of his daily sun-bathing and killing bunnies.
HAZZAH FOR HUGGING!!! It fills my heart with joy! What a splendid idea, I shall go fetch my hunting net and golashes, and we will track them down using our Potter-induced intelligence. Aka shining a torch around for a bit until we see sparkling. Poor original evil vampires… They’ve been given such a bad name.
You are my hero, and I love you.
Pretty sure she was talking to Bamboozlement with that comment, NOT you Preppy Gurl!
(assuming this is to me) *sniffles* Thank you kindly good Madam! I love you too, person I hardly know. You are my life now. *sniffs at your jacket*
Oh my lanta. Thank you. THANK YOU. You are a perfect example of why Harry Potter is going to last forever: the fans are fantastic. They are honest and intelligent. Beautiful rebuttal. Beautiful.
Thank YOU for the lovely reply! So agreed about the fans. HP fans are just SO creative and talented, as well as being intelligent and wonderful people. I think as an answer to the debate about which is better, you could just use the argument of “The fangirls.” and leave it at that. No need for further debate, everyone will understand and hail Harry Potter as their new god. 🙂
I think I love you ^-^ Which is so not creepy right? xD
I’m loving the contrast between the this foolsih girl’s pro Twilight argument and all the arguments of the hp fans – I suppose that’s another thing we can thank J. K. Rowling for that Stephenie Meyer couldn’t teach and obviously hadn’t learned herself: the ability to argue logically and intelligently.
I’m going to go read Harry Potter again now. 😀
❤
Of course it’s not creepy! I love you too 🙂 I’m just going to go ahead and watch you sleep now, mkay? ‘Cause that’s a perfectly normal thing for loved ones to do, right? Right. *nods, happy with logic*
I’m loving it too… and how every single reply is anti! 🙂 Just goes to show the depths of love we have for Harry Potter, compared to the fleeting fancy of Twilight. I like to think that most of my English writing development came from Harry Potter, it has had such a massive impact upon my life, and so many others 🙂
Your plan sounds heavenly! I may do the same, or at least watch AVPM 😉 ❤
I totally don’t know how to reply to you cause there’s no reply button under your comment. O.O Damn you internets! So let’s just say this is a reply to you Bamboozlement ^-^
YAY HP INSPIRED LOVE. 😀 It totally is. I mean Edward does it so it MUST be a timeless symbol of love and undying affection. Yes? 😀 😀 [oh yeah I managed to make fun of Twilight some more. -high fives self-]
It’s fantastic! I’m so tempted to go put this on Gives Me Hope.. xD Same! J. K. Rowling helped me so much with my writing. Every time I read HP I still get that little kid like sense of adventure. It teaches you that your stories don’t have to be twisted and weird to be successful – even in adulthood honour, bravery, adventure and magical things still resonate with people.
I like all us HP fans. We’re awesome. 😀 I bet Preppy Gurl can’t dance like a little awesome of awesome like we can -DANCES-
OH OH AVPM TIME. -I am way excited-
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Too right, DAMN YOU INTERWEBS!!! But sadly it is my lord and master, I cannot function as a regular human being/trolling robot without it *bows to the almighty and presents laptop with fruits and spices*
Oh snap girl (notice the correct spelling of the word “girl” there? Take notes preppygurl) I will high five you myself! *apparates to your general location to give you a high five*
It should certainly go on Gives Me Hope, it certainly gives me hope, and will do the same for any other free-thinking individuals not sullied by the world of vampires with body glitter.
Totally agreed with you. I just adore the way JKR writes, it’s rather dotty and old-fashioned style British, almost every sentence gives me a fresh jolt of joy and fondness for the quirky style. I’m pretty certain that every lesson that should be learned in life can be learned from Harry Potter, it is just THAT damn awesome. I share your child-like adventure 🙂 Come, let us hide in a bush and play-pretend that it is and enchanted forest teaming with shimming otherworldly light and the dancing of fairies! *squats behind a bush like an over-large squirrel*
We are so totally awesome, I doubt we would even fit on the scale of awesome. We motley crew of magic nerds are a cut above, my friend! *joins in the dance with plenty of flaily arm movements and jazz hands*
Less than three ❤ OH it's a heart 😀
Oh my God.
I LOVE YOU, TOO!
Seriously, you worded everything here perfectly and it’s just… just… just… *makes spastic hand movements, displaying some emotion that seems to resemble excitement*
But, yeah. You are AMAZING.
In any case, like Beth said, it’s simple math:
Harry > Voldy > (Cedric = Edward = Twilight)
Harry > Twilight
Um… yes. Anyway, I DIGRESS.
Your points were stated beautifully, and with fantastic wit.
MARRY ME?
(Because it’s not weird to propose to someone you don’t even know, right?)
My rebuttle has caused fangirl flailing? *tears up* This is the best day ever! You are lovely, and now I shall sniff you, watch you sleep, and have my entire life revolve around you. You make my soul ache with love. *sparkles*
Ah mathematics, I knew there was a reason why I once enjoyed you! *grades you with an Outstanding and a shiny gold star*
Don’t be silly, of course that’s not wierd! *scoffs that you would even consider such a ludicrous thing* YES, WIZARD GOD YES I SHALL MARRY YOU! We can skip merrily through forests, sparkle to our heart’s content and soak up each other’s awesome. 😀
Definately not creepy…
*watches you sleep*
You should be flattered! 😛
Haha, aww, well… Stick at it, you’ll get there in the end!
I feel honoured that I am your hope for the world, or whatever. 😛
Basically, Harry Potter is life.
I have never been so affected, moved, inspired, etc. etc. etc. by a book/series before.
JKR is a GENIUS and to even compare it to Twilight is RIDIKKULUS.
I’m glad that so many people seem to agree with me. 🙂
I’m still waiting for the reasons why that stuff of Smeyers is better than Harry Potter because everything you wrote is unreasonable.
I’m sorry have you even READ any Harry Potter book?!
If HP isn’t a story about love and the power of it no book is. Seriously.
Smeyers books are a story about
-how people are hot and smell good, and that that physical affection is supposedly “true love” plus
– how to justify an abusive relationship and it makes clear that
– women are less than men and nothing without a strong man at their side,
– that they should marry before they have sex best straight out of highschool so they can have kids right away – way to go, Smeyer, isn’t that nice mormon-propaganda?
Hm, what have I learned from Smeyer other than that. Oh yeah!
– It is OK to manipulate EVERY SINGLE PERSON around me to get what I want.
– I should treat everyone who dares to like me like dirt
– Rich = Happy
– It is OK to be reckless and only think of myself
– It is OK to abandon my friends and loving family as long as I get what I want
– Death is unimportant. It is really sad, that the death of one of my fathers best friends leads to the fact that noone worries about me.
– It is OK to whine about everything.
– People who try to be nice to me are BAD!
– Men should always be in control because, let’s face it, women are to emotional, clumsy, stupid … to do and decide anything for themselves.
– If anything goes wrong – it’s always the fault of a woman
…
Smeyers books don’t have a plot whereas all seven HP-books have a subplot additionally to the great one that ties all seven books together.
Magic is impossible, but Vampires aren’t? Oh, OK, I didn’t know that.
Oh, J.K. Rowling doesn’t have “original ideas at all”?! You didn’t read the books, did you? I mean, honestly. J.K. Rowling created this fantastic magical world, Platform 9 3/4, Diagon Alley, Gringotts, Hogwarts… and that are only a few!
What did Smeyer do again? Yeah, google what the rainiest place in the USA is and bore us all to death with talk about the weather EVERY FEW PAGES!
Oh and sparkly “Vampires” are SO brilliant, uhm, no, thei’re not. There is absolutely NO logic behind it. I mean, Smeyers Vampires move so fast, they wouldn’t be seen. They could kill by daylight without a problem – especially since Smeyer’s “Vampires” can come into a house uninvited. I mean, the “stereotypical Vampires” as you called them are thought through. Smeyers aren’t. Sometimes they sparkle in the light, sometimes they don’t – doesn’t matter because it is fiction, right? Urg! I could vomit at the thought of Smeyer and her insults to the brains of her readers.
Every single character in Harry Potter progresses. In Smeyers book they all stay the same throughout four books. I mean, not even a severe thing like rape changed Rosalie. The way Smeyer deals with such topics like drug abuse and rape is just insulting to anyone who really was raped or has or knows someone with a drug-problem.
The Volturi are “REALISTIC”? They’re annoying. And again propaganda, in case you didn’t notice.
Smeyers writing is absolutely horrible. It brought tears to my eyes – I’m not even a native speaker and even I did notice how terrible she writes.
J.K. Rowling on the other hand writes beautifully and uses the RIGHT words and no thesaurus to make herself look clever – like Smeyer tried (and failed)
Smeyer foreshadowed like EVERY thing that happens (and it is not much to begin with). J.K. Rowling wrote a series which you can read over and over and always find new clues. It is so brilliantly written, I can’t describe it. To me that women is a genius when it comes to her story about Harry Potter.
Furthermore J.K. Rowling respects her fans, she listens intently to their questions and answers them.
What does Smeyer do? She ignores anyone who critizises her, if someone asks her a question she doesn’t like she says this person is “weird” and that it is simply her story and just fiction so it doens’t have to make sense. She seems really full of herself.
J.K. Rowling has given to charitys, even wrote books for them.
Smeyer? Did nothing of the sort that I know of.
Comparing Smeyers books and Harry Potter is an insult to J.K. Rowlings hard and beautiful, ingenious, work!
Ok. You have got to be kidding.
Okay, SO many people are saying that Harry Potter is better than Twilight. That’s SO not true!
– Ok, hun. That is true. It’s SO true, as you like to say it. And those people saying that, well they are simply smart.
Twilight is a timeless tale of love, then love lost and found again. It shows how love can get you through everything. It’s such a sweet story about the things people do for love, like Bella goes all the way to Italy to save Edward from the Volturi, for instance.
– No, darling. Twilight is a joke. It’s an insult to a women’s intelligence. Basically it’s about lust, not love. Or it’s about a creepy old vampire having sex with a Mary Sue style horny teenager.
Also, Twilight is MUCH more creative, I mean, Stephenie Meyer created a new kind of Vampire, instead of just using a stereotypical, Dracula type Vampire.
– That’s stupid and probably an insult for vampires. SM was probably high when she “decided to create” a new kind of vampire.
I mean, they sparkle, how awesome is that?
– That’s just gay for a vampire.
Plus, they’re MAJORLY hot instead of being creepy.
– No, sparkling vampires are not hot. They are lame. And Edward is creepy in a lame way as well.
And the werewolves aren’t your typical “full-moon-flesh-eater” type. It shows that Stephenie Meyer is actually creative while JK Rowling has no original ideas at all.
– Here’s another sign of your stupidity. JKR has original ideas; she created a fantastic world and wrote seven amazing books. She created great characters; all of them have a personality, a background, an identity. SM is not that good. Well, in my opinion she’s not good at all. But hey! She gave us the ultimate Mary Sue. We should be thankful. God…
Twilight is just so sweet and romantic, a fabuous, timeless tale that will likely be around forever.
– Of course, as long as stupid girls like you keep buying these kinds of books that will take them nowhere.
Harry Potter is just a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters, and has no plot. TWILIGHT 4 EVER!
– Yeah, right! Because reading about how great Edward is and how empty life is without him to the point of considering suicide is actually a master piece.
Also, Harry Potter teaches you:
• It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.
• Violence is totally cool.
• Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.
• Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.
• It’s okay to escape from jail.
• Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!
• It’s okay to break the rules.
• It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.
– This only shows that you didn’t understand Harry Potter at all. I feel bad for you. Twilight teaches you need to have a boyfriend or life will lack of meaning; once you get a boyfriend, the world, family and friend can go to hell because he’s all you need; if by any chance you lose that boyfriend, life is over.
And seriously, the books are also all depressing. Lots of good characters die, which isn’t cool. And they’re just full of violence, and ridiculous plans. Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible. And there’s no way you could seriously just “apparate” dissappear and reappear somewhere else. And if you tried to hop in a fire to go someplace, “Floo Powder”, you’d burn your face off. It’s just crazy, whereas the scenarios in Stephenie Meyers Twilight series are more realistic and likely to happen.
– Realistic and likely to happen? Yeah, because the scenarios where there are creepy and sparkly vampires falling for dumb girls like you are just round the corner. Come on!
Also, Twilight has:
• Robert Pattison, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!
• Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?
• Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.
• The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters
– I’m not even going to answer your three main points of what Twilight has. I’m sorry; they are way too stupid for me to spend my time on them. But the four point… Well, be thankful that Voldemort isn’t real. You wouldn’t stand a chance. I mean really: did you read Harry Potter? Clearly not. Voldemort’s character is mind-blowing, all Harry Potter characters are: they develop, there’s always something new, you get see that while you read these books unlike Twilight’s characters.
Harry Potter isn’t all bad, I mean, they DO have:
• Robert Pattison as Cedric Diggory. The ONE thing the producers got right! Don’t even try to deny you don’t rewind just to watch his scenes again!
• Lucius Malfoy. Hot, even for an older guy!
– Wow, from this whole “articule”, the second point is the only valid one! Congratulations sweetie. But it’s a good one from a movie stand point, which only shows you probably didn’t read Harry Potter. And of course, you also fill the known type of horny teen that only goes for the appearances. You are like Bella, which for you will probably be flattering but is actually an insult.
And that’s about it. Seriously, you want QUALITY literature and movies, watch Twilight. I mean, I don’t HATE Harry Potter or anything, It’s just like, NOTHING compared to the literary BRILLIANCE that is Twilight!
– Ok, let’s make this right: if you want to kill your brain slowly and painfully then yes, go and read Twilight.
Your whole article is ridiculous and totally false. Have you even read the books? Pretty much a lot of people have said what I would say but I’m saying this.
Hermione taught me that I can do anything if I put my mind to it
Bella tried to teach me that I can’t be anything without a man
Twilight – sexist, racist, into necrophilia, beastiality and pedophilia
So true. So true
Also, you say that Kristen is a good actor? with a lot of potential? How ridiculous.
Your “argument” is hardly one at all.
I am torn between laughing hysterically at your ‘arguments’ claiming that Meyer is ‘more creative’ than the genius that is JK Rowling and that Twilight is ‘great literature’, and crying whilst banging my head repeatedly against the wall at the fact that ignorant, unintelligent people like you exist. I am too angry to put together a coherent argument at present, but I second everything that’s been said in the well thought-out arguments above me. (Something you should take note off as you can’t put together an argument to save your life.)
obviously there is a TROLL in lincoln park
HIDE YO KIDS
HIDE YO WIFE
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY
L.O.L.
XD
We just need Harry, Ron and Hermione now! They took on a troll once, they can do it again!
Giatrix, you are a genious! that’s some good stuff there!
CUZ DEY BE TROLLIN’ ‘ERRYBODY OUT THERE.
YOU DON’T HAVTA COME AND CONFESS
WE COMMENTIN’ YOU,
WITH OUR LOGIC AND OUR
INTELLIGENCE, TOO
SO YOU CAN RUN AND TELL *THAT*
RUN AND TELL *THAT*
RUN AND TELL *THAT
TWIHARD, TWIHARD
TWI-TWI-TWIHARD
Twilight teaches that having a boyfriend is the most important thing in the world.
Harry Potter teaches that true love is the love that a person has all of humanity and that love saves all.
Twilight sells sex.
Harry Potter sells loyalty, courage, standing up to the enemy, etc.
Twilight teaches that it’s acceptable to stalk someone.
Harry Potter doesn’t stalk. He’s trying to save the freaking world!
Twilight teaches young girls to turn into crazy freaks when their boyfriends leave.
Harry Potter’s Ginny teaches us that when your boyfriend breaks up with you for a good reason, he’s doing it to ensure your safety and that you should help him in any way you can, there is no reason to go into depression. (Ginny is so freaking bad-ass)
Twilight teaches that Vampires sparkle.
Anne Rice’s Lestat teaches us that Vampires like that get killed. Honestly, Lestat got rid of other Vampires for less things than that.
Twilight doesn’t even have real antagonists!
Voldemort had reasons for trying to conquer the world (although they are crazy ones)! In fact, he’s an allusion to Hitler in a way, the way he persecuted those who weren’t blonde-haired and blue-eyed, Hitler didn’t even follow his own criteria! He was brown-haired with brown eyes. Voldemort didn’t like mudbloods and half-breeds even though he was the son of a witch and a muggle!
The Twilight series had the worst grammatical/diction errors I’ve ever seen in my LIFE! I swear that’s why my sis has problems in her English class now because she read that stupid Twilight crap.
I could seriously go on and on about all the things wrong with that series.
Twilight? TWILIGHT?! Seriously, what does Twilight teaches us? Nothing really.
– Finding true love from a person who stalks you and watches you sleep
– Trying to kill yourself because your “true love” left
– Mutated Fairies
– Shape Shifters
I could go on, but that’s not the point right now!
I think you should appreciate Harry Potter better, if it wasn’t for HP, Robert Pattison wouldn’t be here right now, HP made him famous!
And your point of reasons are stupid. Of course it’s okay to drop of school when your the “Chosen One” to “save the world.”
I think you didn’t read the books, you just watch the movies, right?
And Twilight is a wannabe Romeo and Juliet, even if it’s not the closest damn thing to the “Greatest Love Story Of All Time”
I think you should close your stupid blog, face it, HP will be better than Twilight. Look it up, search it, find pictures of it too! No matter what you say or do, you’ll never change our minds. Beside, can Twilight get its own theme park at Universal?
And Kristen Stewart, which I admit that she’s an okay actress, but overrated and not in a good way because of the Twitards.
(I’m sorry, everyone who’s going to read this comment, I know I have errors in my rant but I got a bit too lazy to fix it.)
Poor taste. Twilight is a timeless tale of moronic sexual fantasies of guys that technically can’t even maintain an erection.
And the cast of Harry Potter is made up of some of the best actors and actresses of our time.
Rupert Grint, a hilarious male who most of us can connect to. He’ll go far.
Daniel Radcliffe, a talented young man who is staring on Broadway sometime next year.
Emma Watson, a style icon who will go far. An inspiration because she went back to school.
Harry Potter teaches a story of love, and how love can safe you.
Lily’s love for Harry saved his life. Ron’s love for Hermione was stated the entire series.
Harry loved his two best friends with all of his heart.
Your argument makes me laugh.
Just like Twilight.
Hermione taught me I can achieve my goals if I try.
Ron taught me that even coming from something small, I can do great things.
Mrs. Weasley taught me that you can love ANYONE, regardless of anything.
Twilight taught me that every girl needs a man.
Twilight taught me that abuse is totally fine, especially when you have sex.
Twilight taught me that it’s fine to be 100+ years old, and have an 18 year old girlfriend.
Twilight taught me that it’s perfectly fine to be 16, and be inlove with a toddler.
[Sounding sarcastic, mind you.]
Get your facts right!
1. According to legend, vampires have always been attractive.
2. There is PLENTY of violence in Twilight.
3. According to that logic, it is totally okay to have a baby underage.
4. It is okay not to trust your government! In many countries, the Government makes people “disappear” just because they express their opinion!
5. Depending on the situation, it is PERFECTLY FINE to speak out against authoritative figures!
Maybe if Stephanie Meyer wasn’t so horny when she wrote Twilight she’d actually be able to produce something good. Or not. These books are the epytome of estrogen.
sorry epitome. my mistake.
What a load of bullshit.
I am speechless at the stupidity of this post.
Twilight. Realistic?! Are you shitting me?!
Twilight. Better than Harry Potter?!
Bitch just go die in a fire.
Harry Potter saved my life. Twilight made me wish it hadn’t.
bahahaha! lol i feel the same way!
YOU ARE THE BIGGEST FUCKING RETARD IN HISTORY
SHINY VAMPIRES AND PEOPLE TURNIN INTO BIG DOGS ARE MORE REALISTIC THAT MAGIC?!
SECOND YEAH PEOPLE DIE IN HARRY POTTER
IN REAL LIFE PEOPLE DIE NEWS FLASH DIPSHIT.
TIMELESS? YOU JUST PROVED YOUR ILLETERACY
YOU NEED TO DIE A SLOW ANDPAINFUL DEATH
PREFERRABLY BY ONE OF THE VAMPIRES YOU FIND SOOOOO REALISTIC
OR BEING RIPPED APART BY A WOLF
Coming from someone who spells their name with “gurl”, I can’t quite take you seriously.
Nice try though.
if you hadnt noticed. we killed cedric diggory, and then he became edward cullen. so stfu. hp gives us hope. twilight sells sex. literally.
Ok, before I start my trolling, I just like to say, I have actually read both Twilight and Harry Potter, both more then once, so I do know what I’m talking about, since I read more then trashy teen magazines. Ok, on with the show!!
I think my brain just imploded. There are so many things wrong in this article. The most important one?
“It shows that Stephanie Meyer is actually creative while JK Rowling has no original ideas at all.”
Have you even read the Harry Potter series? Judging by your grammar and spelling, I’d guess you don’t even know how to read. JK created a whole new world WITHIN the one we already knew about. There are new creatures, like the house elves, a new structure of society (pure bloods, half bloods, muggle-born), even a whole new sport! Which is way cooler then baseball by the way. I’d defiantly go watch a Quidditch match and I hate watching sport. All Stephanie Meyer did was create a faggot vampire race, and not one sane person has got to be thanking her for that.
What Harry Potter teaches you:
– It teaches you to stand by your friends
– It teaches you to stand up for what you believe in
– It teaches you that hard work can achieve incredible things
– It teaches you love triumphs everything
– That females can both kick arse and be feminine
– It teaches you Latin!
– It teaches you that smarts and creativity can trump magic
– It teaches you that first impression aren’t always correct (Severus Snape anyone?)
– It teaches you that good always wins, but it comes at a cost
– It teaches you that death is a natural part of life, and while you may not like it, it has to be accepted
The last two points relate to this “Lots of good characters die, which isn’t cool”. No, it isn’t cool that some of the best characters die, but that’s war. In the middle of a battlefield the Death-eaters aren’t going to go “OMG that’s a main character, let them live!” They’re going to drop that guy and go “How awesome am I, I killed a main, bow down and respect me!” War is death, and no matter how much we hate it, people we know and love will die. That’s what makes Rowling’s war so much more believable then Meyer, which didn’t even happen.
Next topic: “Twilight is just so sweet and romantic, a fabuous, timeless tale that will likely be around forever. Harry Potter is just a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters, and has no plot. “
Have you been smoking something? Twilight is creepy. Edward stalks Bella. Watching over someone while they sleep from the corner of the room is not sweet, its not romantic, its CREEPY!! Someone call Buffy to slay that faggot!! As soon as the last movie is done, people will slowly forget about Twilight. I know my kids won’t be reading that crap. Harry potter however, is a brilliantly done piece of work. It may not be on par with J.R.R Tolkien, but it is certainly up there. The plot twists and turns through the book, and I never knew what to expect (I solve most crime shows about 10-15 minutes in). Its characters are wonderfully believable, with issues and problems that most of us will face, or have faced, sometime in our lives. Rowling takes everyday things and makes then magical. Prime example: exploding snap; wizard’s chess; replayable hangman. I believe the track record speaks for itself, Rowling is worth WAY more then Meyer.
“Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible.” So are sparkling vampires and shape changing wolves, but you seem to have forgotten this to further your non-existent argument.
“Also, Twilight has:
– Robert Pattison, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!
– Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?
– Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.
– The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters”
This is almost too sad to give a rebuttal to. Is the only reason you watched Twilight is because the characters are hot? Robert Pattison is a fag. He wasn’t even that good as Cedric, though it was damn well better then as Edward. And Taylor Lautner. Guy should never have lowered his standards and done this movie. I loved him as Shark Boy, he was awesome. Kirsten Stewart. No talent, no brains, no looks, no potential. And I hate to have to tell you (what am I saying, I love this!), but the Volturi are insane freaks in cloaks too, just no as cool as Voldemort and his Death Eaters. I’d rather be a Death Eater any day; I’d get an awesome tattoo and a cool secret spell.
What Twilight teaches you:
– How important it is to have a boyfriend
– Its ok to cheat on sad boyfriend with you best friend
– Pedophilia is ok!
– Stalking is ok!!
– Random insane suicidal acts are ok!!!
– Hallucinations are ok!!!!
– Necrophilia is ok!!!!!
– Bestiality is ok!!!!!!
– Teenage pregnancy is ok!!!!!!!
– Strong female characters are not important (seriously, this book set the female rights revolution back a couple of decades)
– The only thing that matters about a relationship is how hot your boyfriend is
– Death is something to be feared and fought, and living forever is awesome.
If you don’t see anything wrong with this list you need your head examined. MAJORLY!
“Seriously, you want QUALITY literature and movies, watch Twilight.… It’s just like, NOTHING compared to the literary BRILLIANCE that is Twilight!”
I’m seriously beginning to think that you’re high. One, movie adaptations from books never work out well, so there go the Twilight movies. As for the books… Stephanie Meyer, I’m sorry to say, has no writing talent. I’d use her books as an example of what not to do. The too do is Tolkien of course, but since that’s just beyond the highest form of excellence, Harry Potter is the next step down. There are so many books and series that are better then the Twilight series. I have 9 shelves full of them, so I do know what I’m talking about. Twilight belongs on the bonfire.
nice!
You are so dumb. You are really dumb FO REAL.
Harry Potter isn’t creative? PLEASE, HANG YOURSELF. Jo created a completely new universe. Hogwarts and Diagon Alley and all of the Magical places have NEVER been heard of. She created new villains and spells. Twilight gave us… a cheap romance that I could have written. Twilight is tacky and corny and is so predictable.
Harry Potter teaches you that ANYONE can stand up to people who are doing wrong in the world, that KIDS can rally together to make the world right. Twilight teaches you it’s okay to have sex with your boyfriend after only being together for a few months.
Kristen Stewart shows NO emotion in her acting at all, she’s AWFUL. The directing of the movies are awful, no one shows any emotion except lust and depression and pain. Harry Potter shows love, friendship, family, belonging, loss, pain, anger, surprise, wonder, and the unknown.
Seriously… get a fucking clue or rot.
please please please go die in a fire of AIDs, you ignorant, idiotic cum guzzler. you have clearly never read any of the harry potter books. no original ideas? yea, ok, i was unaware the entire legend of the deathly hallows was preexisting. and, ya know, the entire rest of the series. you made no valid arguments. like you know what literature is? my 14 years of honors english education is laughing hysterically at you right now. do you realize the majority of your argument was rating the books on how many hot guys there were in each series? how about not being shallow for once. and about people dying: yea, it’s called sacrifice. you are, yet again, proving you failed to read harry potter when you argue that twilight is more about love and sacrifice. so bella flies to italy to stop her boyfriend from sparkling in the sun? harry allows himself to be murdered to save the rest of the wizarding world after unwillingly ending his relationship with ginny so she doesn’t become a target and get murdered as well. and in the end, it’s love that saves everything. harry survives because of his mother’s sacrifice and love, and goes on to sacrifice himself for everyone that he loves.
next time you would like to criticize a wildly acclaimed piece of literature, try reading it first. it kinda helps. oh wait, your tiny brain probably couldn’t handle reading it and you’d use excuses like “who actually uses those big words” and “it doesn’t make any sense.” suck a dick, tit bag.
Okay. I know lots of Harry Potter fans have left comments on here already, but I’m gonna leave another one. Mostly they’re gonna be the same points as the rest, but I just wanna speak against this, cause this is offensive to me and my HP beliefs, and I’m not going to sit back and read this without commenting.
So.
“Twilight is a timeless tale of love, then love lost and found again. It shows how love can get you through everything. It’s such a sweet story about the things people do for love, like Bella goes all the way to Italy to save Edward from the Volturi, for instance.””
Well, also in that book, Edward leaves Bella ‘for her own good’ and she becomes schizophrenic and attempts suicide. So, no, this is not a tale of love but rather a timeless tale of the effects of an abusive relationship. Specifically psycological abuse, Edward showing Bella he is better than her in everything and giving her no choice.
Best example? In the first book of Twilight, when Bella leaves a message for Edward telling him to let her die because she is trying to save her mom. But Edward comes anyway. PEOPLE – Edward doesn’t give Bella her (hypothetical) dying wish.
Which is sick, wrong and abusive.
“Also, Twilight is MUCH more creative, I mean, Stephenie Meyer created a new kind of Vampire, instead of just using a stereotypical, Dracula type Vampire. I mean, they sparkle, how awesome is that? Plus, they’re MAJORLY hot instead of being creepy. And the werewolves aren’t your typical “full-moon-flesh-eater” type. It shows that Stephenie Meyer is actually creative while JK Rowling has no original ideas at all.”
In one word: no.
Destroying the laws of previous literature is NOT creavite. What Meyer actually did was combine vampires and fairies, which is just lazy. You can be a vampire OR you can be a fairy. One or the other. Not both.
And In JK’s defense, she not only accepted the laws of previous literature, but she also created NEW species like House-Elves.
I’m sorry, PreppyGurl, but House-Elves pwn meyerpires and ‘shape-shifters’ hands-down.
“Twilight is just so sweet and romantic, a fabuous, timeless tale that will likely be around forever. Harry Potter is just a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters, and has no plot. TWILIGHT 4 EVER!”
Twilight is an anti-feminist story about how all females depend on men and can’t live without them. It also has no plot whatsoever.
Best example? Breaking Dawn when Bella worries for hundreds of pages that the Volturi are coming. And they come. And then they leave. That is NOT a climax.
It is not sweet, romantic, fabulous or timeless; it is offensive to women everywhere and doesn’t even classify as a book (Breaking Dawn in particular).
Harry Potter is not a mashup of crazy ideas (like, I dunno, a half-human half-meyerpire baby that in real life would have mental disorder?). It is not full of bizzare things (like, I dunno, sparkling fairy vampires?). It does not include any weird, freaky character (like, I dunno, a Mary Sue [Bella] or a Pedophile [Edward]?)
Sorry, accidently pressed ENTER.
So, no, I wasn’t done.
And Harry Potter does have a plot. 🙂
“It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.”
As it is ok with Stephenie Meyer to commit the ILLEGAL crime of Necrophilia or Bestiality.
FYI – they were adults themselves.
“Violence is totally cool.”
As it is cool with Stephenie Meyer to rape someone (Sam + Emily).
FYI – no it’s not. Obviously you haven’t read Harry Potter, it is actually the complete opposite. Voldemort = evil, violent and he is defeated. So, yea, where d’you get that idea from?
“Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.”
As it is no big deal for Stephenie Meyer to jump off a cliff when your boyfriend breaks up with you and/or kill yourself if you hear a RUMOUR that your boyfriend/girlfriend is dead.
FYI – The idea that death is no big deal, believe it or not, is a positive one. Voldemort’s biggest fear is death, and throughout the course of Harry Potter we learn there are many MANY things worse than death and that death should not be feared. As Sirius Black points out to Harry Potter in the PoA movie: your parents may be dead, but they’ll never really leave you. They’ll always be with you in your heart.”
What are you smoking? Death DOES happen all the time.
“Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.”
As it is okay with Stephenie Meyer to stab your parents and friends in the back and leave them to never see them again if you are truly in WUV with a sparkling fairy-vampire.
FYI – Obviously you aren’t an orphan or have never had a truly traumatic event in your life. I grudingly agree with you on the fact that he was a bit of a jerk (but JK wins cause Bella’s a bitch the whole way through Twilight), but his friends really ‘don’t get it’.
“It’s okay to escape from jail.”
As it is okay with Stephenie Meyer to get away with physical abuse (Sam + Emily), emotional abuse (Jacob + Bella), psycological abuse (Edward + Bella), pedophiling (Edward –> Bella), necrophilia (Bella –> Edward) and bestiality (Bella –> Jacob). All of these are ILLEGAL.
FYI – I’m not sure who you mean. But Sirius Black was INNOCENT and the other Death Eaters that escaped from Azkaban were freed by Lord Voldemort, who is evil, so JK is saying that no, that is not okay.
“Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!”
As Stephenie Meyer tells us: Don’t trust your friends. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!
FYI – I don’t know what you’re trying to say here. Voldemort was controlling the Ministry. In our world, that would be like Hitler taking control of the world. Are you telling us to trust Hitler?
“It’s okay to break the rules.”
As Stephenie Meyer tells us it’s okay to break your father’s heart (when Bella leaves him in Twilight) and to break his rules (when Bella goes motorcycle riding).
FYI – Rules are made to be broken; if we didn’t break them, there wouldn’t be any rules!
“It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.”
As Stephenie Meyer shows us it’s okay to fall in love with a newborn baby. P-E-D-O-P-H-I-L-E <– NOT okay.
FYI – Okay, those teachers he yelled at deserved that and more. Umbridge is a racist cow & Snape is a shallow-backed asshole (who we sympathize with later when he's dead).
"And seriously, the books are also all depressing. Lots of good characters die, which isn’t cool."
– That's called life, dude. People die and no, it's not cool, but it happens. This is called: realistic.
"And they’re just full of violence, and ridiculous plans."
– Right … cause rape isn't violent & cause frequent attempts at hurting yourself to hear your ex-boyfriend's voice isn't ridiculous …
"Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible."
– And sparkling vampires AREN'T???????
"And there’s no way you could seriously just “apparate” dissappear and reappear somewhere else."
– And transforming into a werewolf at your own will totally is?
"And if you tried to hop in a fire to go someplace, “Floo Powder”, you’d burn your face off."
– And if you jumped off a cliff when your boyfriend broke up with you, you'd DIE.
"It’s just crazy, whereas the scenarios in Stephenie Meyers Twilight series are more realistic and likely to happen."
– Sure … cause, you know, vampires + werewolves (sworn enemies since the beginning of time) are very likely to be gay together [Edward + Jacob].
Btw … your pros for Twilight need more backup than 'he's hot'.
"Robert Pattison, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!"
– Cedric Diggory was hotter. And most men who sparkle are GAY.
"Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?"
– Yes, I have. But I remain confident that Dobby the House Elf could kick that guy's ass.
"Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential."
– Yes, Kristen Stewart is a good actress. But not in Twilight. (read some of the reviews!)
"The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters"
– Yes, because realistic villians leave without hurting a hair on anyone's freaking head (Breaking Dawn). And, btw, insane villans are THE BEST.
"Robert Pattison as Cedric Diggory. The ONE thing the producers got right! Don’t even try to deny you don’t rewind just to watch his scenes again!"
– Yes, but Robert Pattison hates Twilight more than me.
Plus, he was British then. Everythings better british.
Plus plus, at least Cedric Diggory didn't millest little girls.
"Lucius Malfoy. Hot, even for an older guy!"
– Does your world revolve around hotness of guys or something?
Plus, half the girls go to see Harry Potter don't go just to see a guy topless.
"And that’s about it. Seriously, you want QUALITY literature and movies, watch Twilight. I mean, I don’t HATE Harry Potter or anything, It’s just like, NOTHING compared to the literary BRILLIANCE that is Twilight!"
– No, just no.
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows was the book with the TOP first-printings then any other book in the history of civilisation.
Final Points:
A Very Potter Musical and Sequel
The movie VampiresSuck
Harry Potter Exhibition came FIRST
Harry Potter teaches you LATIN
Twilight is based of a sexual dream fantasy of a middle-aged MARRIED woman
Now, I know you may not trust some teenage girl's opinion of Twilight … so why don't you ask Stephen King?
Yes. I said it.
just to clarify, I’m quite opinionated so I may sound a bit ‘bitchy’ but I want you to know that I think you are open to your own opinion and I am not critizising that. I am merely challenging your opinion by stating my own. As CrazyWriter said, ‘I may not agree with your opinion but I will fight to the death to defend it’ (the person who said that, if anyone’s wondering, is Voltaire, a famous french author – i’ve read his stuff, c’est magnifique!)
Anyway, time to get on with life … 🙂
And if you disagree, bite me.
HP rules & Twilight sucks.
😀
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows=Fastest selling book in HISTORY.
NO GIRL IN REAL LIFE LIKES BEING WATCHED WHILE SHE SLEEPS, K? K.
Well, maybe except you, but.
Usually I say “To each his own” and accept other people’s opinions.
But. But this.
I. I cannot even right now.
@PreppyGurl I feel like you are joking with each of your points because they are completely and utterly ridiculous.
also, let’s all take a moment to remember that HARRY POTTER IS A FIRST AND FOREMOST FANTASY NOVEL. NOT ROMANCE. technically, it doesn’t even need to have romance in it, but it does which makes it so much better.
Twilight is a (supposed) romance novel, first. so it has some attempts and romance and lust. but harry potter is NOT a romance novel, it is fantasy. so don’t try to say Twilight is better than Harry Potter, because there’s more romance in Twilight. That’s fucking pathetic, there’s supposed to be more romance in Twilight.
What the Hell is this? Please, seek help.
You should’ve been aborted.
Hi.
I hope you’re just joking here. If not, I’ll explain how you’ve got this wrong.
Harry Potter is also about love. But in more than one form. As I see Twilight – and yes, I HAVE read them! – it’s basically about how important it is to have a boyfriend. Or to have a guy in your life. When Edward leaves, Bella goes to Jake because she has to have a guy in her life. Harry Potter is about so many more types of love; among them love between friends, love between family, love between people who think the same way – and love as in boyfriend-girlfriend. That’s more complex than Twilight.
What you see as an improvement or creativity on those old fantasy creatures, is to me a rape of good monsters. Monsters do not sparkle. Vampires are, traditionally, monsters. Just look at Bram Stoker’s Dracula, the movie. Gary Oldman plays a scary, scary vampire whose shadow doesn’t do the same as him and such. That’s more fascinating. And the werewolves of Twilight ain’t even true werewolves, because the concept of werewolf is a human who unwillingly turns into a wolf, a mindless beast. They’re not cuddly dogs.
“* It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.”
If you look at the circumstances – the school being taken over by violent psychopaths, the whole wizarding world looking for Harry to hand him over to Voldemort so he can kill him, and the wizarding world being taken over by the dark lord – I think it’s okay to drop out of school. But that’s just me, I’d prefer to survive, after all.
” * Violence is totally cool.”
The books do not say that. The Cruciatus Curse is strictly forbidden, right? They say that _self defence_ is ok, but that violence and killing just leads to evil and misery. That’s also a thing you have to go in the depths, between the lines, to see, though.
” * Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.”
That’s not correct either. Harry drops out of school because he doesn’t wanna get killed, right? Every death is mourned and concidered a great loss, be it a Muggle or a wizard. How well did you read these books?
” * Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.”
Well, Harry does act like a jerk at times, but everyone does – so do you, I bet – and you can’t deny he’s had a rough time. But yeah, he does act like a jerk and they don’t deserve it. But if he hadn’t, he’d be an unrealistic character, and that would suck. No one’s perfect like your beloved Edward.
“* It’s okay to escape from jail.”
If you’re innocent and no one believes you; Yes.
“* Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!”
If your government is taken over by a violent psychopath who kills to make himself immortal; Yes.
” * It’s okay to break the rules.”
Depends on the rules.
” * It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.”
If they’re controlled by or are psychopaths, incompetent or lie, yes.
That character die, is also a realistic thing. I mean, it’s war. People die at war. And “depressing”, you say? Well, that’s also realistic! The world as it is now, IS depressing! Ever watched the news?
Sparkling vampires is a more impossible concept than magic. Honestly, this is FANTASY. Fantasy ain’t supposed to be realistic, that’s why it’s called fantasy! Fantasy is a way to bring something to an audience in an exciting way, and no one does it better than J. K. Rowling.
Twilight is not much more likely to happen; didn’t you know there are vampires in HP too? Then how can you call Twilight more realistic than HP?
“* Robert Pattison, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!”
Beauty is relative. I find him revolting.
“* Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?”
Same as above, though he’s not as bad as the above mentioned.
“* Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.”
“Extremely” is going a bit too far.
” * The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters”
So vampires living underneath a city in Italy is realistic? And again, fantasy ain’t supposed to be realistic. It’s about telling a story. Don’t tell me you don’t find the thought of men likely to kill you, wearing dark cloaks in the middle of the night in a dark alley a little bit scary.
And then for your… positive things:
” * Robert Pattison as Cedric Diggory. The ONE thing the producers got right! Don’t even try to deny you don’t rewind just to watch his scenes again!”
I don’t. He’s not bad, but I don’t think he’s hot enough to play Diggory. I mean, he’s supposed to be HOT!
“* Lucius Malfoy. Hot, even for an older guy!”
Do you only think about looks?
You can’t be serious saying that Twilight is quality literature. I mean… the whole plot of the books is that a perfect, sparkling vampire who’ll live for hundreds of years falls in love with a clumsy, boring girl who’s just a shell so that any girl can place herself in her place because she’s EMPTY – HOW can you call THAT realistic?
So, if you’re serious, I hope I didn’t break your illusion of Twilight being perfect. No, wait – that’s what I’m trying to do. And if you’re kidding to see how many comments like this you’ll get – well, then you’ve probably gotten a good laugh by now. You’re welcome anyhow.
You know Mamas Umbridge thinks? Mama Umbridge thinks that little skanks like Stephanie Meyer and Bella Swan are gonna get whatever they want.
…and girls like us… I mean YOU… have got to EAT EACH OTHER to get ahead!!!
Back in my day vampires sucked blood………….. not cock. Twilight is the most gayest shit ever. HARRY POTTER FOREVER!!!!!! <3333
woooow. you’re fucking retarded, aren’t you?
first of all, the Harry Potter series is a phenomenal piece of literature. If you’re as pigheaded as you’re coming off, then you wouldn’t get it at all because you’re taking it for face value. If you’d crack open a REAL BOOK like the Harry Potter series, you’d at least have proper grammar and a sense of the world. Twilight was ridiculous. of course, she Stephanie Meyer made an idiot out of herself and decided to make the protagonist a whiny bitch who can’t do anything for herself. Oh, the word “protagonist” means main character.
In HP, there’s an entire WORLD of characters and JK Rowling did RESEARCH to make her novels. Stephanie Meyer based her books of a shitty dream she couldn’t remember completely.
I really hope someone beats you up and knocks some sense into you.
I’ve also heard claims that Bella is based off of Stephanie herself. >_>
“Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible. And there’s no way you could seriously just “apparate” dissappear and reappear somewhere else.”
It’s also ridiculous for someone to give birth to someone who is technically dead. You obviously don’t grasp the concept of fantasy. It doesn’t need to make sense, JK created a magical world, Stephanie created closet gay vampires. Whose the one without the imagination? Before you start judging something for being ridiculous and impossible you might want to compare it with something that’s actually real.
I don’t know if mummy told you, but Vampires aren’t real. Neither is Santa or the Easter bunny.
This is about the stupidest thing ive ever read, are you serious?
have you ever read the harry potter books, or are you just caught up and some stupid love story.
twilight’s okay, to watch when your bored. harry potter has such a better story line, much better actors.
harry potters better than that twilight movie in every single way possible.
and oh i know your going to have a little BF. over what im saying. getoverit.
You suck. Hope you know that
your argument contradicts everything you stand for.
twilight is NOT timeless and it is NOT literature. if they make that horrid tale into a penguin classic i will shoot myself. you are probably someone who had never read a book before twilight came out.
you continue to say that the pros of twilight is that the actors are hot. is that all?
the characters in hp have a lot more backbone than they do in twilight. i think a wider audience can relate to the characters of hp than they do in twilight. i mean, excluding 13 year old girls relating to the typical teenage girl who is bella.
that is not my point though. i am more enraged that you called twilight a ‘timeless romance.’
twilight lacks everything literature is, and it lacks textual integrity. take away the vampires and werewoves and you have an annoying, mopey teenage girl who is in love with some boy because of his good looks. did i miss something? because from what i read/saw, it didn’t fit the standards of a timeless classic.
your argument is way invalid. please research and know what you are talking about.
I do not know why I’m so pissed at someone who types ‘for’ as ‘4’ and who judges good literature based on the looks of the ACTORS who play them.
Can you be more shallow?
But I guess all Twihards are.
JK Rowling created a WHOLE new world. She created a school, cool new gadgets(invisibility cloaks, the Weasley’s inventionsdo you know how much time and effort was put into that? Oh wait, what am I saying, of course you don’t. Your article is living proof, after all), SPELLS. SHE CREATED SPELLS. That in itself, should tell you just how creative she is.
Have you even READ Harry Potter?
this is really stupid. u cannot compare twilight to harry potter at all. some people are just too ignorant to realize how much better harry potter is than twilight. i have so many more things to say that i can not really put them into words where you will under stand. just overall HARRY POTTER IS BETTER!
Twilight is bad. It is about the importance of having a boyfriend, attempt suicide and he will come running back, and Kristen Stewart is one of the most ugliest freaks ever along with robert pattison. So shut up cause most of your reasons were about looks. Harry potter teaches you about the importance of friendship and fighting the pain. So you are wrong.
Of course it’s timeless, THEY CAN’T FUCKING DIE.
XD good one
You know what? You can fuck yourself up the ass with a spatula and enjoy the hell out of it. Why? Because Twilight will never be as good as Harry Potter. It doesn’t even compare. It’s trash compared to anything, really. Vampires don’t fucking sparkle in the sunlight. They DIE. Sorry to burst your little love bubble, but shit. This isn’t a vampire movie. If you want to see vampires, go watch Queen of the Damned. Otherwise, stop with this bullshit on how much better Edward Cullen is than Ron Weasley. Face it, Edward’s a pussy compared to Ron.
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~8) HP forever baby!
I’m sorry, you’re completly. fucking WRONG.
You said
* It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.
My reply to this is:
They were 17 – they were of age. they were perfectly allowed to drop out.
Harry, Ron and Hermione had to save the fucking world, while Dumbledore left them a mission.
So if you think the main character is going to be a whiny bitch like Bella and sit around and expect others to do the work for them, then you’re completly whack.
You said:
* Violence is totally cool.
My reply is:
Um, no. HP is not trying to say Violence is cool. They’re saying self defense when it’s needed, plus Harry is fighting the Evil which is causing the violence!
* Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.
You obviously haven’t read the books man…Harry is trying to prevent these deaths and saving the world, while Bella is trying to get brains porked out by Edward and have herself bitten by a guy she only LUSTS over, not love.
* Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.
Um, No. Harry is being half posessed by Voldemort at the time. The only thing he accuses them of “not getting it” is his dreams that are real.
* It’s okay to escape from jail.
Um…I believe the Death Eaters bust out of Jail, not Harry. So the death eaters are the BAD GUYS. typically, BAD GUYS escape from jail.
* Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!
Hmm, Maybe it’s cause VOLDEMORT WAS CONTROLLING THE MINISTRY.
* It’s okay to break the rules.
To save anothers life, like your best friends, then YES! I agree.
* It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.
Oh yeah, totally, if they’re evil and on Voldemort’s side.
I’m sorry, but you’ve made a really poor argument. I can’t believe I wasted my time reading this.
I just want to say, Twilight gives out bad messages. Like, if people looked at Bella as a role model, would they follow what she did when Eddy left her? Jump off a cliff? oh totally.
Now don’t get me wrong. I’ve seen the movies and read the books. Only to be bored the fucking death by them.
I liked the first twilight movie when I was 13…I grew out of it two months later.
And anyway, you say Twilight is a TIMELESS romance series? Many people here have grown up with it. I remember seeing the first movie nd learning to read the first book, like when I was 6 years years old. JK Rowling is my childhood.
Twilight conveys bad messages…SORRY.
Oh, btw, I totally agree when you said Lucius is hot. It’s the only thing I like you for. Thanks!
Um just letting u know that ur comments against harry potter is incorrect, The framers of the constitution never wanted people to become comfortable with their government so the book acttually caused awareness and desire to learn more about ones government. Oh and Harry Potter is like Dr.Seus books, they caught a hold of childerns desire to read, plus Twilight is full of gramatical errors which means that instead of learning how to properly write, its causing confusion towards grammar. Oh and They didn’t drop out Harry potter And Ron weasly became aurors, hermione granger became a wizard doctor, their friendship lasted because they learned how to appreciate every flaw each of them has, if anything. Harry potter is far Better than Twilight, Bella is the type of girl who needs a man to help her “survive” her flaws make girls want to be helpless, in need of a male while hermione is the proud girl that inspires girls like me to stand up for what one belives in and loves. I am a HARRY POTTER FAN and hotness doesn’t matter as long as true values that don’t degrade the power of women working together with males as equals. Leah, And Rose only show the stronger side of women but even then they are only strong because They got hurt, Really girls can be strong whether or not a mans there or someone hurts us, also beauty isn’t everything and all Twilight talks about is rose beauty Alice beauty leaks beauty Edwards beauty, superficial beauty before iner beauty.
Ok, really? This is so freaking ridiculous! Harry Potter and Twilight are in two different realms of literature. Harry Potter is filled with Creativity and original ideas. Where as Twilight, takes Vampires, and ruins them, and the were wolves aren’t even were wolves, Meyer states in the last book that they are more like shape-shifters. Which is not a were-wolf. And Harry Potter teaches us values that are very important, it teaches us the important of family, and friends. Where as Twilight teaches us all that matters is your boyfriend, and you should just ignore your friends. Anyone with half a brain would know that a happy, sucessful life has family, friends, AND the one you love. Harry Potter has a plot, and a ton of sub plots, the characters all grow, and learn valuable lessons. Twilight has one, well barely, one plot. And the characters are still the same by the end of the series. And another thing, Pattinson is not hot, he’s dirty! He was much, much better as Cedric, but that doesn’t mean he is amazing. Kristen Stuart can’t act, and is not beautiful. Where as, Harry Potter, has a ton of brilliantly talented young actors, as well as some extremely talented well known older actors. Harry Potter is much better literature than Twilight. Harry Potter is something that will live on forever, Twilight will only really survive our Generation. Anyway. Thank you for listening. Oh, and btw, all those who commented, I so agree with you guys! ~Hellena~
(Hellena is not my real name, but I am not going to post that for this loser to know…lol…)
i have to agree with this “Or Something Like That”
I’ve read both the books, and I can easily say that Harry Potter will forever triumph Twilight. You, ma’am, are a dumbass.
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oh good god, the credibility of this article goes to a god awful tweenie moron who doesnt understand a single thing about good literature. Sure she made up her own little type of vampires, but no you know something, they are a bunch of pansy sparkly fairies. Everyone knows true vampires, not the fake ones you’re talking about, would burn in sunlight. The only slightly credible thing in the entire series is the whole issue of uncontrollable bloodlust when they’re reborn. And even that’s strewn way out of context.
The “Actors and Actresses of twilight”
Kirsten Stewart- Her acting consists of the same moral decision of someone who cant decide what to eat for breakfast.
Taylor Lautner-Can’t act, but the only reason they keep him is because they want to attract teens for corporate merchandising.
Robert pattinson- the only slightly credible role he had was in harry potter.
Harry Potter was a life lesson. Yea it seemed harsher, but that was because J.K Rowling knew life isnt gonna be so easy as that. I don’t see anyone living in that easy type of life that never has to overcome some sort of hardship. Sure harry potter doesnt compare with any of h.p. lovecrafts writings but its still a far better story in fantasy. Twilight is a totally different genre, and to call it brilliant is insulting every great writer there ever was.
They trollin everybody up in here.
Okay sweets, this piece of writing is filled with ignorance but I have gone through and picked out my favourites:
“It shows how love can get you through everything. ”
I’m pretty sure that is the whole entire theme of Harry Potter? Isn’t the reason Voldemort gets owned is because he can’t understand the power of love?
“I mean, they sparkle,”
Yes they do. And I believe the sparkling part is why a lot of people disrespect the story. Sparkly does not equal terrifying and blood thirsty – which vampires are.
” instead of being creepy.”
I know you won’t agree but I found the whole Twilight series creepy as hell. He watches her sleep! God.
“Harry Potter is just a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters, and has no plot.”
… Harry Potter has no plot? Harry Potter… Has… No… Plot? Have you /read/ Harry Potter? The plot is so detailed that stuff in book one is relevant in book seven. I predicted the end of every single Twilight book after the first chapter. Harry Potter is written in the art of subtly.
“Magic is impossible.”
Hate to break it to you love, but so are Vampires. You know how they have sex? He is /dead/; therefore has no blood. How would they have sex? Pssht.
“Whereas the scenarios in Stephenie Meyers Twilight series are more realistic and likely to happen.”
Yeah totally. Everything in Twilight is so realistic. I mean, I totally see sparkly vampires all the time. And a society totally wouldn’t notice that a group of teenagers haven’t ages for over a hundred years. ::sarcasm:
[On Harry Potter]
“It’s just like, NOTHING compared to the literary BRILLIANCE that is Twilight!”
This just made me laugh. I understand that you may enjoy Twilight and that’s cool. Whatever. Each to their own; but you cannot say that Twilight is “literary brilliance”. It’s.. Just.. No.
Bye bye Twitard.
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I like you. Let’s be friends. ^-^
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everyone in the comments should be friends! Potterheads UNITE!
YES! We so should be. ^-^ Then all this stupid girl would’ve done with her idiotic post will have been bring a whole lot of awesome people together. And then we can have a party and she won’t be invited. Yes? Yes. :] And we can all have pie.
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*cuts in*
Sorry, but can I join the party? I like pie.
Everyone else here has covered all the points i wold have covered, so I’m going to leave you with some facts, preppy.
‘it is estimated that every 30 seconds,somewhere in the world, a harry potter book is opened.’
‘harry potter has been translated into 67 languages, including latin and ANCIENT GREEK’
and lastly,
“the harry potter series is the highest grossing film sries of all time, beating out the 20-film James Bond series, and still having 2 films to go.”
what do you have to say to that?
oh, and they’re not werewolves. they’re animagi. have they registered with their ministry yet?
if this was facebook iwould totally like this
I usually don’t reply to things like this, but I’m sorry, I have to say that there is NO competition between Harry Potter and Twilight. I mean, COME ON! Twilight? Vampires that sparkle? Oh yeeah, that hasn’t been done before, probably because they DON’T sparkle..vampires aren’t even supposed to be out in daylight! Vampires are straight up creeps.
Anyways, here’s your rebuttal:
A) Twilight is not about “love”, it’s about lust. Look them up because there is a major difference between the two.
B) Yes, Twilight isn’t stereotypical. Congrats to S. Meyer for creating vampires that are a mixture of fairies and Superman. There’s also a difference between stereotype and tradition. Thank you to S. Meyer for making centuries of traditional vampire and werewolf stories look like a waste of ink. (sarcasm, btw)
C) “Twilight is just so sweet and romantic, a fabuous, timeless tale that will likely be around forever. Harry Potter is just a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters, and has no plot.”
-really? Do I even have to argue with this? I think you have ‘Twilight’ and ‘Harry Potter’ in the wrong places.
D) “It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.”
-Technically, they were adults. Harry, Hermione, and Ron were trying to save the lives of everyone in the world (including the lives of your imaginary Bella, Edward, and Jacob). They put their lives on the line to save millions of others, not to fall in love.
E) “Violence is totally cool.”
-Let’s be honest. What book nowadays doesn’t have violence? And if I remember correctly, they did rip people apart and burn them to death, in Twilight, did they not?
F) “Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.”
-It really does happen all the time. At least JKRowling is realistic. Everyone will die at some point. Twilight tells us to be immortal; there are probably hundreds of kids chasing “vampires”, trying to get the blood sucked out of them so they can live forever.
G) “Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it””
-Harry handled his situation pretty good, actually. Bella’s parents were only divorced, both still healthy and alive, and she was still a buttface about everything.
H) “It’s okay to escape from jail.”
-If you’re talking about Sirius, then he wasn’t even supposed to be in jail. Nuff’ said.
I) “Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!”
-No one trusts the government. Especially if the government is being controlled by the Death Eaters who are trying to eliminate all of the people who are not witches or wizards.
J) “It’s okay to break the rules.”
-J.K. Rowling taught us the opposite. At the end of every book and movie, (up until the sixth), Dumbledore lectured Harry about why it is important to follow the rules and do what he is told. If you don’t recall, Harry got this lecture hundreds of times. (He broke the rules for good reasonsm, btw)
K) “It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.”
-That’s because Snape and Umbridge were jerkwads who only attacked Harry and tried to get him into trouble. I’d be pretty pissed myself if I was in his situation; at least he slowly learned to control his anger towards them.
L) “And seriously, the books are also all depressing. Lots of good characters die, which isn’t cool. And they’re just full of violence, and ridiculous plans. Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible. And there’s no way you could seriously just “apparate” dissappear and reappear somewhere else. And if you tried to hop in a fire to go someplace, “Floo Powder”, you’d burn your face off. It’s just crazy, whereas the scenarios in Stephenie Meyers Twilight series are more realistic and likely to happen.”
-Yes, because your vampire boyfriend really can take you up to the top of a tree, and you’d feel safe thee entire time. Very realistic. And the books are not filled with violence, they are filled with fighting that only benefit those who deserve to be helped. These books are called fiction and fantasy for a reason. We all know they’re not realistic, but it’s just fun to imagine it is. Well, it is MUCH more fun to imagine Harry Potter is.
M) “Also, Twilight has:
•Robert Pattison, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!
•Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?
•Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.
•The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters”
-Since when are villains merciful? The actors? You’re right, but doesn’t it suck how the directors had to find really really really good and already famour actors to make the movie look good?
So there’s your rebuttal. And btw, why did they have to get rid of Robert Pattinson’s accent? That’s what made him awesome. Does Twilight have any plays or bands or anything made after them? I didn’t think so. Does Twilight have any hate films made for them? I believe that that was the purpose of Vampires suck.
To sum things up, Twilight? We might as well forget about because it’ll only last for this generation. Harry Potter? Yeah, that’s gonna last forever.
P.S. Jacob is not a werewolf..he is an Animagus. HELL YEEAH.
Ok, is this a joke?! I hope you realize that the majority of your “good points” for Twilight were about how good people look. That counts against you cause your saying “the guys are hot, so the series must be good” and that’s just down right shallow. Well, I guess it then makes sense that you like Twilight, cause that story is very shallow. There’s no messeges, all it talks about is how important it is to have a boyfriend. If that’s what Harry Potter has taught you, then you obviously were in a coma the whole time you read it. NONE of the points you mentioned remotely explain the brilliance of the Harry Potter series. Harry Potter teaches of good and evil, bravery, honesty, love, equality, the list goes on and on. And the main character Harry, unlike Bella, has to make choices harder than ‘Do I pick the vampire or the werewolf?’ he has to choose between giving up his life to save those he loves, or living and continue to watch people he cares about die. And yes, characters DO die in Harry Potter, but they’re in the middle of a war, so it only makes sense. If no one died then it would A. just come out with an un-realistic sappy happy ending (oh, thats funny, that’s how Twilight ends) and B. characters dying tests your love for them. If you find yourself bawling over a fictional character, then the author has done very well. Yeah, don’t you DARE talk about Harry having angst issues because Bella Swan mopes around the house for months on end just because her boyfriend left her. She gives up. Harry on the other hand never does. And you say it promotes ‘dropping out of school’ for one, uh no it doesn’t do that. That decision is sort of a ya know ‘life or death’ situation, they had no other choice. And if you say Harry Potter promotes that, then I’m sure you’ve found that Twilight promotes teen pregnancy. Twilight, is your typical ‘Mary-Sue’ romance thats a soap opera in book form. You say Harry Potter is SO violent, yet Twilight is ABOUT VAMPIRES. There’s violence in that too! I think you can recall when Bella was bitten and oh ya know that huge battle sequence at the end of Eclipse. Oh ya know, that vampire just ripped the head off another, no big deal. Yeah, there is violence in Harry Potter, so what? You don’t seem to mind it in Twilight. In Harry Potter both the good and bad are shown in people. Because nobody is all good or all bad. Meyer talks about how perfect Edward is so much, its disgusting. But, she sure does a hell of a good job writing to you ‘preppy gurls’ cause it’s people like you she’s aiming for. Girls who don’t care about a thing except for getting their utterly perfect boyfriend who could never possibly do ANYTHING wrong. HAHAHA REALISTIC?! YOU THINK TWILIGHT IS REALISTIC?! HARRY POTTER AND TWILIGHT ARE BOTH FANTASTIES, THEYRE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE REALISTIC! Yeah, so the magical worlds they live in may not be realistic but when it comes to the way the characters act, and the character of the characters, Harry Potter beats Twilight for realism by a LANDSLIDE. In Harry Potter the characters have flaws and they develop over the series. The characters don’t always make the best decisions, sometimes they’re wrong. That’s what makes Harry Potter so real. The characters act like real people, I mean yes there are bits of fantasty in them, but when you get down to their cores, it’s amazing. Harry Potter you can take something away from it, you learn when you read it. There are lessons deeper than just the words, Harry Potter makes you feel more than lust. It connects you with the story, it teaches you about people; about life! When you have a real argument, when you come up with reasons besides ‘the guys are hotter in Twilight’ then you can try and debate your point. But, I highly doubt that you will win even if you do come up with better reasons. J.K. Rowling is a brilliant and clever person who has written a series beyond belief and there just isn’t much you can draw from Meyer’s Twilight. I’d really like to know… what do you value more? Having a boyfriend, a boyfriend who’s so perfect that he might as well be fake, just plastic or in this case stone or do you take the higher route and say you value sticking up for your rights, your beliefs, those you love, those who love you! Do you think love is something that can conquer evil, that can give people hope, and do you think it’s something that can exist in everyone? Or do you think love just means you snog your vampire boyfriend? When you’ve stopped spending all your time pondering how sparkly your boyfriends skin is and started thinking about what’s really important, yeah only then will you be allowed to speak the name of J.K. Rowling and her epic story, Harry Potter.
and harry potter is a tale of love to, just not the dumb relationship ‘oh my boyfriend is so hot!’ kind but the real kind, the love between bestfriends and family. the ultimate acrifice.
“Twilight is a timeless tale of love, then love lost and found again. It shows how love can get you through everything. It’s such a sweet story about the things people do for love, like Bella goes all the way to Italy to save Edward from the Volturi, for instance.”
Twilight does not show love in the slightest. Not even love between Bella and her parents. It is indeed implied that Renee and Charlie love Bella, but Renee’s off travelling the world with her boyfriend and dumping Bella on a father that she can’t even bring herself to call ‘Dad’. That isn’t love.
The ‘love’ between Bella and Edward is nothing more than teenage lust. Bella likes Edward for his looks, Edward likes Bella because her blood smells good – you really can’t get any more shallow.
If you want to read about the things people do for love, take Lily Evans and Severus Snape. Snape loved Lily so much, for his entire life, that he risked his own by spying on Voldemort for Dumbledore. He was able to become such a strong Occlumens that Lord Voldemort himself, the world’s most powerful Legilimens, could not enter his mind. This meant that he was the only person who could ever get away with lying to Voldemort, and he did this all to try and keep Lily and her family safe. Fast forward to the night that Voldemort tried to kill the Potters, Snape begged Voldemort to spare Lily, which he actually intended to do. He struck down James straight away, but gave Lily the chance to step aside and live. Lily refused to do so to try and protect Harry, which gave Harry the shield which meant he was protected from Voldemort until he was 17. The fact that someone loved Harry enough to die for him is what destroyed Voldemort in the first place.
After Lily died, Snape dedicated the rest of his life to try and keep Harry out of harm’s way at Hogwarts, even though Harry looked exactly like his father James, whom Snape hated since they were at school. He worked with Dumbledore spying on Voldemort to try and bring him down and avenge Lily’s death.
THAT is love. Dying for your son is love.
Even though the love of your life is dead, giving up everything and risking your life every day by lying to the world’s deadliest wizard to try and keep her son safe is love.
But oh wow, Bella went all the way to ITALY and had a quick chat with some merciful ‘villains’, that puts Lily and Snape to shame!
“Also, Twilight is MUCH more creative, I mean, Stephenie Meyer created a new kind of Vampire, instead of just using a stereotypical, Dracula type Vampire. I mean, they sparkle, how awesome is that? Plus, they’re MAJORLY hot instead of being creepy. And the werewolves aren’t your typical “full-moon-flesh-eater” type. It shows that Stephenie Meyer is actually creative while JK Rowling has no original ideas at all.”
Vampires are typically SUPPOSED to be creepy. They drink blood, for Christ’s sake. Making them sparkle and only drink the blood of animals is just a way of making them seem more friendly and less vampirific, she hasn’t created a ‘new kind’ of vampire at all. If Dracula ever met the Cullens, he would laugh in their faces and call them fairies.
And the ‘werewolves’. Remus Lupin is a werewolf; Jacob Black is an Animagus. Werewolves are unable to control or decide when they change, and have no control over what they do while they are in their wolf form. Animagi can change their form at will and still act from their human mind. Jacob can do the latter, therefore Jacob is not a werewolf.
Adapting well-known creatures that already fictionally exist isn’t being creative; it’s being lazy.
I’ll give you a few examples of creativity:
Hippogriffs, Blast-Ended Skrewts, Thestrals, Grindylows, Flobberworms, Hinkypunks, Red Caps, Nifflers and Acromantula, to name a few. All creatures that did not exist before JK Rowling created them herself.
“Twilight is just so sweet and romantic, a fabuous, timeless tale that will likely be around forever. Harry Potter is just a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters, and has no plot. TWILIGHT 4 EVER!”
As we have already established, Twilight is neither sweet nor romantic. If some hundred-year-old sparkly vampire came and started watching you sleep from your window, you wouldn’t call them romantic. You’d call them a stalker and call the cops.
Romantic is Bill and Fleur. Fleur is part Veela – one of the most beautiful and captivating women in the world. Bill was very good looking until he got attacked by the werewolf Fenrir Greyback, leaving him badly scarred. Instead of being shallow and leaving him, Fleur still loves him, probably more than ever, and she gives up her dream wedding in France to marry him in the Weasley’s garden. Are you telling me that if Edward got attacked and his face was left scarred, Bella would still love him? Of course she wouldn’t, the basis of her ‘love’ is that Edward is ‘hot’, which also seems to be the basis of most Twihards’ love of this awful story.
And if any series of books has no plot, it is most DEFINITELY not Harry Potter. There are so many subplots woven into the main plot that it would be impossible to write them all down. The story of Grindelwald and Dumbledore, how close Neville came to having Harry’s fate, the Marauders in school, Snape’s love for Lily, Ron and Hermione, Hagrid and his half brother, Sybill Trelawney and the prophecy and SO many more! The plot of Twilight is basically that Bella’s life isn’t worth living unless she has a gorgeous boyfriend and her many ventures in making sure this happens.
Dunno about you, but to me that doesn’t seem to make for a very gripping read.
Oh, and the fact that you’d even consider writing the phrase ‘TWILIGHT 4EVER’ further lessens your argument.
“Also, Harry Potter teaches you:
•It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.”
If Harry, Ron and Hermione had stayed in school, they all would have been killed. They didn’t go and find and destroy all of Voldemort’s Horcruxes just for the fun of it, they did it for the safety of the wizarding world. It’s not like it wouldn’t matter if they didn’t go; people were relying on them to do it.
“•Violence is totally cool.”
Never once does Harry Potter claim that violence is cool.
Not being funny, but violence is a part of life, you cannot avoid it, and all of the characters face the repercussions of using it.
“•Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.”
The way that JK Rowling combats the idea of death is one of the best things about the Harry Potter series.
‘To the well organised mind, death is but the next great adventure.’
‘Do not pity the dead, pity the living. And above all, pity those who live without love.’
Harry Potter teaches you not to be frightened of death. Death is a part of living and is inevitable and yes, it does happen all the time, but it’s nothing to be afraid of or worried about – it’s the next adventure.
If anything, Twilight implies that death is something to be afraid of. To Bella, growing old and dying is the worst fate that anyone could bestow upon her because it would mean she has to leave Edward. Therefore, she chooses to become immortal and watch everyone else around her die. But hey, it doesn’t matter, as long as she has her perfect husband and demon baby and never has to face the idea of death again.
“•Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.”
If someone killed your parents I’m pretty sure you’d be a bit angry at times as well.
The fact that Ron and Hermione are always telling Harry that they’re on his side and to stop jumping down their throats is just proof that Harry Potter is in no way saying it’s okay to be rude to your friends about it. Ron and Hermione always stand up for themselves when Harry is being unreasonable towards them, but they still always understand where he’s coming from. All it does is teach readers about true friendship.
“•It’s okay to escape from jail.”
I take it that you mean Sirius here?
When Sirius escaped from Azkaban, he wasn’t allowed to just live life as a normal guy and just get away with it. He lived in hiding for nearly three years and died with people still thinking he was guilty.
This doesn’t show that it’s okay to escape from jail at all.
“•Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!”
The government were trying to pass Harry off as mentally unstable and a liar.
If your government started saying that about you, I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t trust them either.
In the last few books, the Ministry of Magic was one extremely messed up place, and anyone who placed their full trust in it was kidding themselves. For example, Percy Weasley, who estranged himself from his entire family to place his trust in the Ministry. Even he came back in the end and admitted he had been wrong to do it.
“•It’s okay to break the rules.”
Harry and the others always get punished for breaking rules, hence the reason he received so many detentions and even had a hearing at the Ministry for practicing magic outside of school. He hardly ever gets away with any rule-breaking.
“•It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.”
Okay, in some books, Order of the Phoenix especially, Harry shouts at a lot of people.
However, this is when the connection between his and Voldemort’s minds is getting stronger, and Dumbledore admitted that this was the reason for Harry’s many mood swings.
He always gets told off for being rude to teachers at school, and he’s never shouted at anyone just for the hell of it.
“And seriously, the books are also all depressing. Lots of good characters die, which isn’t cool. And they’re just full of violence, and ridiculous plans.”
Popular characters die because that’s the way life is. Good people aren’t going to stop dying just because it’s not ‘cool’. The fact that JK Rowling isn’t afraid to kill popular characters such as Fred Weasley, Lupin, Tonks, Snape, Dobby and even Hedwig just proves that she is a much more confident and able writer than Stephenie Meyer, who’s main characters are all immortal and live forever. Yeah, really heart-wrenching and dramatic.
“Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible. And there’s no way you could seriously just “apparate” dissappear and reappear somewhere else. And if you tried to hop in a fire to go someplace, “Floo Powder”, you’d burn your face off. It’s just crazy, whereas the scenarios in Stephenie Meyers Twilight series are more realistic and likely to happen.”
Are you honestly trying to say that vampires are more likely to exist than magic?
Not just vampires though, vampires that SPARKLE?
Neither magic or vampires are very ‘likely to happen’, but JK Rowling has managed to build a much more believable world for her characters to live in, which, to me, makes it seem a lot more realistic in the heads of her readers. She’s invented hundreds of spells, creatures, foods, drinks, shops, villages, entire webs of storyline that enable you to slot yourself into the story wherever you’d like to go and have obstacles to work around to make yourself fit.
Twilight has nothing like that. The purpose of a fictional story is to make you use your imagination. If you wanted to imagine yourself in Forks, you’d imagine yourself attending Bella’s school and bam, you’re done. If you wanted to imagine yourself attending Hogwarts, you’d have to imagine your blood status, whether that affected the house you’d be in, what your parents’ blood statuses are, what characters you’d be friends with, whether you had any history with them… The possibilities in JK Rowling’s world are literally endless.
Each are equally as unlikely to exist, but imagining that Harry Potter exists is a lot more fun than imagining Twilight does.
“Also, Twilight has:
•Robert Pattison, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!
•Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?
•Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.
•The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters”
So to you, what makes a movie good is the aesthetics of the actors that portray the characters? That is shallow beyond belief.
Robert Pattinson is a good actor, I know that because he was a great Cedric Diggory and he did the best with what he had in Twilight. The role of Edward is just so cripplingly terrible that it makes him out to be a bad actor. That is NOT a good thing for a movie to do.
RPattz even said himself he much prefers Harry Potter to Twilight.
I don’t even know if Taylor Lautner’s a good actor because the producers don’t give him chance to show his acting skills, and instead have him just show off his body to gain the series more screaming female fans, seeing as that’s the only type of fans they can get.
Kristen Stewart is far from extremely talented. She is expressionless and dull, but would probably have had a lot more potential as a successful actress if she hadn’t accepted the part of whinging and whining Bella.
The Volturi also may be ‘evil’, but they are merciful. They spare Bella and Edward and allow the Cullens to run off back home. Voldemort is a real villain; once he has decided he’s against you, he will fight you to the death. He and the Death Eaters have a full blown war against the Hogwartians which kills many on both sides, rips apart Hogwarts castle and goes down in history. The Volturi trot up to the Cullens and their friends, have a little chat, and just as it looks like it’s about to kick off, Bella protects everyone with her seriously out-of-nowhere mind shield and it’s all over.
I think if I came up against Voldemort and the Volturi, I know which one I’d be more afraid of.
“Harry Potter isn’t all bad, I mean, they DO have:
•Robert Pattison as Cedric Diggory. The ONE thing the producers got right! Don’t even try to deny you don’t rewind just to watch his scenes again!”
I’ve already said that he made a good Cedric, but it most definitely wasn’t the only thing right about the movies, and I have never once rewound Goblet of Fire just to watch his very few scenes again.
“•Lucius Malfoy. Hot, even for an older guy!”
Again, basing the credibility of a movie on the physical looks of the actors. Of course that helps, but it should not be the only contributing factor of whether you like a movie or not.
“And that’s about it. Seriously, you want QUALITY literature and movies, watch Twilight. I mean, I don’t HATE Harry Potter or anything, It’s just like, NOTHING compared to the literary BRILLIANCE that is Twilight!
You know it’s true!”
Did you just call Twilight quality literature?
Your entire article was wrong and badly justified, but that is just downright hilarious! Stephenie Meyer is an average writer who has clearly given little to no thought about the overall plot of Twilight. It’s my thought that Edward is Stephenie Meyer’s dream guy, she is Bella and Twilight is her imagination running away with her and creating an unrealistic perfect life for the two of them. Twilight is her own fantasy and it should have been kept a secret – at times it feels awkward and intrusive to be reading it, like it’s her diary or something.
JK Rowling was planning Harry Potter for years before it was written, and had the entire plot set out the whole time. Reading over the series again and noticing the little hints in the earlier books about what will happen later on is one of the best things about it. She is a truly skilled writer and understands English literature in a way which Stephenie Meyer never will. Stephenie makes so many mistakes in her punctuation, wording, etc. that it’s glaringly obvious that writing the Twilight saga was never a dream of her’s, more a way to make a quick bit of money.
In a couple of years, Twilight will be forgotten for good. The way things are going, it’ll have a shelf life of 6-8 years at the most. Harry Potter has been a worldwide phenomenon for 13/14 years already. I have been reading it ever since I was six years old. Most of our generation have grown up with Harry, Ron and Hermione, JK Rowling has taught children to read, inspired many young authors and taught the readers of her books real life lessons of friendship, bravery and overcoming fears and obstacles. Her books have literally changed lives. People may say that Twilight has changed their life, but seeing as most fans will only have known about it for a couple of years, I find it highly unlikely to be true.
Stephenie Meyer has taught the readers of her books that your life isn’t worth living unless you have a good looking boyfriend, and that’s not a lesson that any girl OR boy nowadays needs to learn.
I like the Twilight books, but I am SOOO TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT IT. The story wasn’t even that great of a vampire book there are way better ones. Twilight is good for a quick read that you’ll forget about in a few days.
Oh look PreppyGurl! I wrote about you! *Grins Evilly*
http://www.fanpop.com/spots/harry-potter-vs-twilight/articles/78525/title/response-very-insulting-article
Oh sweetheart please. All twilight is is a censored soft porn novel. Bella spends the majority of the books whining and begging Edward to have sex with her and turn her into a vampire. Have you not noticed that the book pretty much teaches you that hey, it’s totally fine if you lose you’re soul as long as you have your super hot boyfriend with you? It’s utterly ridiculous and should be filed in the same place as all the other trashy romance novels. Furthermore, it is incredibly unoriginal – I can name at least a dozen romance novels based around the idea of “vegetarian” vampires who fall in love with human girls. All Stephenie Meyer did was make it more pathetic by robbing the vampires of the few elements of badassery left to them – I mean they freaking sparkle in the sun rather than burn. And they’re supposed to be such tortured souls? I mean, really?
I have to say it disgusts me that you not only proclaim Twilight to be a timeless tale of love and romance, but also have the audacity to compare it to the brilliance of Harry Potter. Harry Potter took J. K. Rowling five years to plan and you know why? Because it’s incredible. J. K. Rowling not only created an entire new world, but created it within our world so that while you read Harry Potter you can’t help but wonder if it’s not real in some way. In addition, Harry Potter embodies traits which are altogether admirable – the novels teach us about bravery, the importance of friendship, honour, integrity – the list goes on. Whereas, Bella is a character devoid of any kind of believable personality designed solely to allow lust-crazed girls across the world to enjoy a fantasy without the inconvenience of having to think it up for themselves. I could go on and on about this but I think I’ve wasted enough of my time. Someone that believes a simpering novel which uses the word ‘smoldering’ much too often, not to mention incorrectly, such as Twilight, is better than a series which captured the hearts of millions across the world, adults and children alike, and caused children to become interested in literature again, essentially spurring an age of potential and intelligence, is obviously beyond helping. I hope to dear god I’m wrong about that, for your sake, but if you are ever to change it will have to be a choice – you need to choose to let go of your shallowness and learn what true literature is.
And just to finish, if this girl’s stupidity crushed my belief in the intelligence of human kind, all the people rebutting her idiocy brought it right back. ^-^ Harry Potter forever.
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You had me at ‘Oh sweetheart, please.’ ❤
Heh thanks ^-^ I have to say it would be amazingly awesome if J. K. Rowling somehow stumbled across this page..
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jay, if rowling stumbled upon this page, that would be totally awesome.
I bet she’d dance with awesomeness and joy. ^-^ And then tweet Stephenie Meyer about it xD
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Harry Potter teaches you to value friendship, loyalty, love, courage, honor, truth, bravery, and to stick up for what you believe in. Twilight teaches you how awesome it is to have a boyfriend.
Go read a real book.
You mother fucking hoe bag.
“Literary brilliance” that, is a piece of shit. Classic writers, timeless classics, would defiantly agree. Twilight = Sex , HP = Things That Are Too Big For Your Walnut Sized Brain.
Yes, it isn’t right to yell at authority figures, but the only teacher he had ever yelled at was Umbridge, and I wouldn’t call her a kind character, like Professor McGonagall. She was attempting to take over the school, and basically since she was probably always under the minister she had semi-control over him.
Rejecting a government that is taken over by a murderer, I’d do that. But you, being so stereotypical, vain, shallow, etc, probably would not. Just so you can be cool, like the cool kids, right bitch?
Death really isn’t that big of deal, actually. Someone was dying as your posted your shit up on here, someone is dying while I type up these facts to your brain which will not sink in.
If I were a orphan, and had friends that came from perfectly lovable families I’d feel as if they wouldn’t understand, because they don’t. You have no parents, they are dead. Christ, so if you have an orphan friend-which would be a miracle if someone could stand to see your face for more than a second without being blinded, or vomiting-you would not understand what its like for them to see you have this amazing life, that you take granted for, and they are stuck in an orphanage or foster home.
People break rules all the time, even in Twilight. Skipping school, falling for a Mary-Sue Mortal such as your blonde self, cheating on your boyfriend…the list can keep on going biatch.
“I am torn between laughing hysterically at your ‘arguments’ claiming that Meyer is ‘more creative’ than the genius that is JK Rowling and that Twilight is ‘great literature’, and crying whilst banging my head repeatedly against the wall at the fact that ignorant, unintelligent people like you exist. I am too angry to put together a coherent argument at present, but I second everything that’s been said in the well thought-out arguments above me. (Something you should take note off as you can’t put together an argument to save your life.”
-Agreed, basically sums up my whole comment.
“Your whole article is ridiculous and totally false. Have you even read the books? Pretty much a lot of people have said what I would say but I’m saying this.
Hermione taught me that I can do anything if I put my mind to it
Bella tried to teach me that I can’t be anything without a man
Twilight – sexist, racist, into necrophilia, beastiality and pedophilia”
-Thank you, dearie.
Bella believes that without a man in her life, she is nothing. Hermione struggled through SIX YEARS, [while Bella couldn’t even take one] of seeing Ron everyday, and dealing with that, watching him snog Lavender Brown right in front of her face, Bella was too busy trying to committee suicide for attention and lust from angst ridden 107 year old vampires.
I know! Twilight is sooo realistic, every day I beg my vampire bf to like, tottaly, fuck me, I mean really. He’s always so sweet about it! “No!” And so I’m like gonna seduce him in a pair of jeans tomorrow, and then we’ll “make love” and have a demon baby!
What. The. Fuck. Do you seriously, honestly, see vampires and werewolves every day begging to fuck YOU? If you do, please call up one of us, and we’ll call up some nice new friends for you 🙂
I actually see hidden buildings, magical charms, a whole different world much more likely than some angst ridden pedophile vampire, and a raping werewolf.
Twilight Sucks- I applaud you.
Potter Forever- Short & Sweet 😉
Rlurdleby: Nice summary.
Potterfreak, MissHermioneJean, Rain, Rockie, Beth, YouSeriouslyAnnoyMePreppyGirl, Comma, Annie, Beth, Ashley, Katie, Lexi, and Bamboozlement, you guys are fucking awesome.
-cracks up- OH! OH MY GOD. THANK YOU FOR MAKING MY DAY. This is the most HILARIOUS piece of writing I’ve ever seen xDDD It’s even funnier than My Immortal, Tara Gilesbie’s epic- oh wait. You’re not joking, are you?
Since when does JK Rowling say ‘It’s okay to escape from jail.’? In case you didn’t realize, Sirius Black was the good guy.
As for death being normal – well, it is. I mean, just because your human disco balls don’t die it doesn’t mean that we HUMANS don’t either.
Yes, they sparkle. Has it ever occurred to you that they sparkle because they’re gay? Okay, it’s different from the normal vampires, but still, GAY? (And I’m not saying gay as in ‘Oh I’m a guy and I like guys’. Gay as in Wendell the rainbow unicorn gay)
Since the others have already mentioned all I want to mention and more, I shall end this with:
At least Harry Potter didn’t spring from a wet dream!
Cheers, and I wish you luck in that abyss of idiocy you’ve buried yourself into ❤
Okaay, I read this and laughed at your stupidity. This article was just ridiculously and incredibly, uggh!! I don’t ever have a word for it. I’m just going to say that it was supermegastupidugly. I can’t even comprehend whyy anyone would even write such an article.
“Twilight is MUCH more creative.”
Yeah, because vampires that sparkle and werewolves that transform whenever they want is WAAY better!! (I hope you noticed the sarcasm.) If you’re going to change the mythical creature COMPLETELY, then at least call it something else. JACOB IS NOT A WEREWOLF! HE’S AN ANIMAGUS!! and Lupin could totally take him. JK Rowling stuck to the ancient awesomeness of the mythical world AND even gving it her own twist. JK Rowling invented SOO many more AWESOME things!! Like Howlers, Quidditch, Horcruxes, the Triwizard Tournament, Hogwarts, and the WHOLE ENTIRE concept of Harry Potter itself.
“Twilight is just so sweet and romantic, a fabuous, timeless tale that will likely be around forever.”
It’s not sweet and romantic, it’s a disgrace to literature everywhere. Romeo and Juliet, Letters to Juliet, and even Beauty and the Beast is SO much more romantic. It will DEFINITELY fade away in the future. Us HP fans will read the books to our children while they’re sleeping and we’ll show them the movies after we finish reading them the books. Twilight cannot be shown to children because it teaches them about pregnancy and stupid vampires. It will most likely give them nightmares.
Your argument about the actors is stupid. They got rid of Robert Pattinson’s accent which probably would’ve given the movies at least one star to make up for the ridiculous plot and horrendous acting. If Taylor Lautner’s muscles are the only thing you notice, then you are wierd and probably a slag. Kristen Stewart looks really depressing and Emma Watson is a WAAY better actress. Heck, even Voldemort is prettier than Kristen. And the Volturi. They have THE MOST WEIRDEST NAME EVER!! I wouldn’t be able to tell if they were the good guys or the bad guys!! “Death Eater” is much more awesome!
ALL THE CHARACTERS IN HARRY POTTER ARE AWESOME!! Not just Cedric and Lucius. Nuff said.
You think Twilight “is a timeless tale of love, then love lost and found again. It shows how love can get you through everything.”
Okay, first Twilight is NOT a timeless tale of love. Edward just can’t read her mind and likes the way she smells. That’s it. And Bella thinks he’s hot, which I can’t understand why. Ron and Hermione’s whole relationship was SOO awesome and even though HP wasn’t about love, I feel like it could’ve been if it wanted to. Harry and Ginny’s relationship was sweet, too. Harry pushed her away but that’s only because he loved her and wanted her to be safe from Voldemort and the Death Eaters. He thought about her all the time when he was looking for the Horcruxes, and if that’s not love, then, please, tell me what is. And let’s not forget Snape and Lily. Their relationship was soo CUTE and AWESOME. Snape fell in love with Lily when they were just and still loved her even after she died. He was willing to die for her and defy the MOST Evil and Terrifying man to make sure she would be safe or at least that the last living piece of Lily Potter was safe, even though he resembled his dad, who Snape despised. He begged Voldemort not to kill her and was mortified when he heard of her death. Snape was the LAST person I would think would have done that which made the book all the more better.
Soo, there you go Preppy Gurl. That’s why HARRY POTTER IS BETTER THAN TWILIGHT.
P.S. You obviously have no friends since no one is sticking up for you on the little comment thing. To everyone who thought that her atricle was stupid, I’m proud of us. Harry Potter brought us all together to make fun of Twilight. Take THAT! xD
Why? Honestly, please explain to me why you thought it would be a good idea to post this. I understand defending something you love, and I’m all for debating, but if you’re going to do that, at least have some good points to back up your opinions.
Twilight is not a “timeless love story” ,the love expressed in Twilight between Bella and Edward, is nonexistent. It’s not love–it’s lust. And the fact that the story drones on for pages upon pages of Edward’s ‘perfect’ looks, supports this argument greatly.
Twilight is NOT creative. Not one little bit. The fact that she made her vampires sparkle, that’s not creativity, thats trying to come up with a way where her characters can have an even more simple, pefectly laid out life, than they already do. And also her story line is the equivalent of a poorly written fanfiction; think about it. She ends the story with a teen pregnancy. Wow, so original. And the story is based off of a dream she had, most likely a wet one. Even Robert Pattinson himself said that! “When I read it I was convinced Stephenie was convinced she was Bella and it was like it was a book that wasn’t supposed to be published. It was like reading her sexual fantasy, especially when she said it was based on a dream and it was like, ‘Oh I’ve had this dream about this really sexy guy,’ and she just writes this book about it. Like some things about Edward are so specific, I was just convinced, like, ‘This woman is mad. She’s completely mad and she’s in love with her own fictional creation.’ And sometimes you would feel uncomfortable reading this thing. ” That’s a direct quote from Rob in an interview about the series. Yeah. What do you think about that?
Okay, your reasons on why Harry Potter sucks are just plain stupid and pathetic. You’re just scraping the bottom of the barrel to find flaws about the story, and you couldn’t even find any.
– It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything. ( Harry, Ron and Hermione couldn’t go back to school for their 7th year, they would have been killed. And by going to hunt down Voldemort, they were saving the lives of people all over the world. And “without an adult or anything”…im sorry would you like them to have gotten a permission slip?”
– Violence is totally cool. (The story is in a time of war, so yeah there’s going to be violence. And like there isn’t any violence in the Twilight series? Please.)
– Death is no big deal, and happens all the time. (Death does happen all the time, it’s ignorant to believe it doesn’t. And they never once say it’s no big deal, the characters all suffer and are upset when someone dies)
– Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”. (Wow. That’s just plain insensitive of you. Harry treats his friends right, sure sometimes he may lose his temper, but only when the issue of his parents death is pressed upon, and im pretty sure you would too if it were you in his position.)
– It’s okay to escape from jail. (Okay, Sirius was wrongfully imprisoned. And the prison break in order of the phoenix, it’s the VILLIANS. That one word automatically puts the situation in a negative light!)
– Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely! (The ministry was conspiring against Harry and Dumbledore for the longest time! So yeah, that proves they weren’t trustworthy at the time)
– It’s okay to break the rules. (Sometimes, yes, it is. But you’ll notice that they always pay the consequences for breaking the rules)
– It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures. (If they are torturing you *cough* Umbridge *cough* than yes, I would say it is.)
You say Harry Potter is unrealistic and the things in it could never happen. Neither can the things in Twilight, you idiot.
And your other reasons of why Twilight is good…
“Robert Pattison, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!
Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?
Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.
The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters”
Okay first of all, with those first three comments, how vain and shallow can you get? Second of all, Kristen Stewart can’t act to save her life. All she does is blink, stutter and leave her mouth open. And Thirdly, The Volturi are not realistic villains, are you kidding me?!?! They’re barely even villains! What harm do they cause that’s injust and immoral? Honestly, what? They try and destroy Edward?? Uh yeah cause he was about to expose the existence of vampires to the human world and indanger their kind! Seems like a pretty fair reason to me!
Harry Potter is amazing, creative, thought provoking and so many more positive adjectives, can not be topped by something as simple-minded and dimwitted as Twilight.
If you want real literature read Harry Potter. If you want to read about someone else’s sexual fantasy…read Twilight.
Since when have sparkling vampires become realistic? Or mutant vampire children eating their way out of a womb. When you see either of those happen in real life, you let me know, Preppy Gurl.
“I mean, Magic is impossible. And there’s no way you could seriously just “apparate” dissappear and reappear somewhere else. And if you tried to hop in a fire to go someplace, “Floo Powder”, you’d burn your face off. It’s just crazy, whereas the scenarios in Stephenie Meyers Twilight series are more realistic and likely to happen.”
Sweetheart, I’m sorry to break it to you: Vampires aren’t real.
Aghh sorry about the typos guys >_<
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Oh yea, not that anyone mentioned him, the only remotely good character in twilight was Jasper… he had a REAL backstory… i mean sure there was some BS but he did fight in the civil war
ROSALIE HAD A GOOD BACK STORY TOO!
Yeah…Except for the fact that being a banker during the Great Depression didn’t mean you’d be wealthy. It’s actually the exact opposite. But this post had nothing to do with with Stephenie Meyer’s failure at research. xD
But other than that little flaw, she did have a good back story. (Even though if Harry being an orphan didn’t entitle him to be A LITTLE sad, Rosalie really shouldn’t be going around being a bitch to people because of her back story and how she can’t have babies. 🙂 Just sayin’.)
By the way, there’s not need for caps lock. I’m helping you in saying that you’ll lose a lot of respect if you respond back with caps lock rage and a lot of exclamation points. 🙂
F u!!!!!!!!! U have absolutely no taste!!!!! First of all JK Rowling invented the whole flipping world of Harry potter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And oh my god, how dare u say Harry potter teaches u bad lessons!!!!! Hav U lost your parents when u were a baby?!?! NO! So u don’t kno how it would feel!!! It’s horrible!!!! They don’t lik using violence but they hav to to defeat EVIL!!!! And yeah, killing does happen all the time!!! Hav u never seen this nice little thing called the NEWS?!?!? U hear about death lik everytime u watch it!!!! They HAD to break the rules cuz EVIL had taken over the government!!!!!!! U retard did u not read the books?!?! EVIL took over the government and were like putting ppl in jail if they weren’t purebloods!!!! Now, ok u say that floo powder and apparation are impossible? No dip. Oh, so vampires and werewolves rnt impossible???? Yea becuz everyday I see a horse sized wolf running through my backyard! It’s SO stupid tht people like twilight for having good looking actors and actresses. They r all actually sucky actors and actresses in everything else!!! And um… How stupid r u? Yea dementors and voldemort wear cloaks. So do the volturi u moron!!!!!!!! To wrap up, ur just 1 of those freaks who lik twilight because of good looking actors and actresses. I’m a Hu-UGE twilight fan! But it is NOTHING compared to Harry potter. NOTHING!!!!
I tell you what.. shes the talk of the Harry Potter Fandom town right now…
You do know that vampires don’t exist right? Even sparkly ones? Vampires, werewolves, and wizards do not exist. Yes, magic is impossible, that’s why it’s called fantasy. Guess what else is impossible? People transforming into dogs, living the same age forever, super speed, vision and hearing.
Oh my god. I was going to log off but after reading all the other beautiful comments, I decided to give you another piece of my mind.
And I return to…oh my god. How could you even COMPARE twilight to Harry potter??? For gods sake, meyer has even SAID twilight is not and never will be as good as Harry potter!!!!! Harry potter is SO creative!!! Rowling invented spells, a sport, creatures, towns, government, etcetera etcetera!!! Hmmmm let’s see, you got 200 people or so who hate your guts (probably more because I know people who didn’t post a comment) and how many people agree with YOU? Uh 0! So why don’t you actually read the Harry potter books, see the movies, then reread twilight, see the movies, then give an honest opinion that is not based on hotness of an actor or actress!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PS sorry if I am using words incorrectly or misspelling or any of that I am only 12 🙂
I absolutely HATE how on the back cover where it has reviews (on the twilight books that is) there are reviews that say “move over Harry potter”
Move over where? Closer to Bella so Harry could beat the crap out of her and Stephanie meyer would think it’s ok???
That kinda sounded lame lol
OH GOD.
SHE’S NOT A TROLL.
SHE’S NOT A TROLL.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Okay. Here’s a test. Try typing a few paragraphs of Twilight into Microsoft Word.
And a few of Harry Potter too.
The one with less squiggly lines wins.
Tell me the results.
And I’ll laugh.
Oh, and hey, girl. You’re FAMOUS!
Everyone who likes Harry Potter and/or hates Twilight is talking about you.
All right. Let me make a few things clear, you seem annoyed about the lack of actual rebuttals to your argument. I will do just that:
* It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.
Technically, not by himself, because Harry was with Ron and Hermione most of the time. This emphasizes the importance of loyalty and friendship, as opposed to Twilight, where the only friendship comes in handy when you’ve lost your boyfriend. Secondly, THIS WAS GOING TO SAVE THE WIZARDING WORLD. In other words, Harry sacrificed his life (and Ron’s and Hermione’s) to save the rest of the world (not just the wizarding world, but the Muggles suffering from persecution from the power-hungry wizards). It depends on perspective; you see it as stupid, I, and a billion other fans, see it as inspirational and so brave.
* Violence is totally cool.
Okay, where in God’s name did Rowling mention that violence was cool? It’s a war, sometimes you have to fight, you know. Not many people can just sit there idly while their loved one gets hurt (oh, but of course, Bella Swan can do any fucking thing she wants).
* Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.
“No big deal”?! What are you, blind? Harry had lost so many of his loved ones, BECAUSE DEATH DOES HAPPEN ALL THE TIME YOU INSENSITIVE MUGGLE. Maybe you’re lucky enough not to have experienced death of a close one, but in a war-trodden world like Harry’s, sometimes, you’ve got to experience the pain of death. But you also have to move on with life. That is the beauty of Harry Potter. You still have your loved ones with you, inside your heart, but the alive ones are there to support you.
* Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.
Okay, if “some guy” killed my parents and I was orphaned in a total shit hole and my relatives hid my identity from me and belittled me and tried to make my life a living hell, I would be kind of pissed too. It’s also called personality flaws; in a person, and in a character. Another thing that Twilight lacks: humanly flaws. I know they’re vampires, but they don’t possess any flaws whatsoever, which makes them all Mary Sues and Gary Stus, and incredibly boring to read about. And you can’t possibly relate to them, because they’re perfect. Since when are humans perfect?
* It’s okay to escape from jail.
Firstly, WUT? Secondly, if you’re talking about the OOTP escape from Azkaban, it was not okay. The raging lunatic otherwise known as Voldemort had enabled his Death Eaters to escape; this shows just how crazy and powerful he is. So what did the wizarding world do? Just sit there and do nothing? NO; Dumbledore reinforced the Order to work more than ever, and Harry continued fighting against the Dark Arts with Dumbledore’s Army. But people are scared shitless, PREPPY GURL, and some are too afraid to do anything about it. Imagine, ten lunatics escaped from wizard prison with the wizard Hitler on the loose … how many people would be brave enough to stand up and fight?
* Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!
If Australia’s government was f*cked up, which it’s not at the moment, I would ignore them completely too. We live in a free country, and we as independent humans are allowed to live the way we want. If the government imposed a new “anti-multiculturalism” policy, I’m sure there would be a rage, wouldn’t you think?
* It’s okay to break the rules.
OH MY GOD, I WORRY FOR YOUR SANITY. If you’re talking about not handing your homework or sneaking off in corridors at midnight, well, that’s what most high school students do anyway. Not making any generalizations, it’s just a fact. And it wasn’t every goddamn night or anything, was it? Midnight parties, being rebellious … it’s a part of high school life, almost every student goes through it at one stage or another. And besides, if some crazy-ass, racist, uptight, cruel teacher taught you, wouldn’t you want to do something about it? Like create a group of students to fight against the oppression?
* It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.
I’m still lost at this. “Be rude to teachers”? Who even takes that to heart? And who isn’t rude to obnoxious, selfish, rude, sexist, racist, cruel, cold-mouthed and offending teachers anyway? It’s called standing up for yourself. See, this is what Twilight does to you; it makes you think that you can’t do anything for yourself, because dear Eddykins will be there to DO IT FOR YOU. Gah.
Don’t post comments that long you might confuse her
OH MY GOD I ALMOST FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR I LOVE YOU.
She’s completely obsessed and she sits in a chair doing nothing for three months when he leaves.
Now look at Hermione Granger.
She alters her parents memories so they don’t remember her and moves them to Australia so the Death Eaters can’t find them, knowing that she will probably never see them again.
She fights through the hardest of times and teaches girls all over the world to be strong.
What does Bella teach girls?
Having sex with dead people and dogs is OKAY! 😀
YOU ARE NOTHING WITHOUT YOUR (dead hundred-year-old sparkly virgin)MAN.
I think I know who’s better…
Also look at Ginny when Harry breaks it off with her (to save the world) she doesn’t sit around crying she acceps it and gets on with her life, then helps the resistance and other students in any way she can.
Gurl. You’re insane.
God, what has Smeyer DONE to the world?
“Timeless tale of love” and abuse, and neglect, and misogyny and SERIOUSLY? SERIOUSLY?! Seriously.
TROLL
TROLL
TROLL IN THE DUNGEONS
THOUGHT YOU OUGHT TO KNOW
*thump*
And that was me fainting from the laughing, not Professior Quirrel ;D
Bloody Brilliant!
I love how so many people rushed here to defend HP with beautiful and rational arguments. Absolutely love it. Never change, HP fans. ❤
How did so many people fall into this trap? I knew even before “preppy gurl” went on “her” Jewish rampage that this was an obvious troll. She/he/it is looking for two seconds of internet fame… and she/he/it found it.
I already had my little rant on this but I’d just like to point out that Twilight is already fading – do you see scores of indignant Twilight fans on here? No, you see HP fan after HP fan taking your feeble arguments and tearing them apart. Harry Potter has been around for about 13 years – the first book came out in 1997, I think – and it still shows no signs of losing popularity. Whereas Twilight, which only came out in 2005, is already losing its fans by the hundreds as people realise that it actually kind of sucks. “Twilight is a timeless tale that will likely be around forever?” All evidence to the contrary, my dear.
❤
Guys, seriously though….
This. Is. A. Troll. A very obvious and hilarious troll, at that.
Do not bait her, if it is indeed a ‘her.’
The whole persona and blog is fabricated to infuriate people and incite backlash and vitriol, just as you’ve been doing. I can’t blame you guys, because I adore Harry Potter too, and dealing with hardcore Twilight fans is frustrating, but some of you are going too far. Please don’t make death threats- any kind of threats- or generally awful comments. When you do that, you sink to her/its level. Not only do you undermine your credibility, you undermine the [deserved] reputation of the entire Harry Potter fandom as a mature, intelligent, and compassionate group of people (especially as compared to the Twilight fandom). Calm down and forget about this blog. Even if it wasn’t a troll, a person as stupid as this is not worth your time and energy, so go be awesome somewhere else.
this.
A+ comment. 😀
Let’s leave the trolls in the books.
You are a very clever troll. You play up the crazy twihard psychopath quite well. this was fun to read, even though I (as any sane person would) disagree with all of it. but I applaud you. GOOD TROLL, YES, YOU GOT YOUR LOLLIS! you can have a cookie.
HUH? What do you mean?
if you don’t know what a troll is get off the internet and take more of the pharmaceuticals you’re clearly on
HAhahahahaha you win at life, Allison.
Soooooo I kind of knew this would be BS when I saw your username…. Preppy gurl? Not even knowing how to spell the word girl… shows how many brain cells twidiots have. One, Robert Pattinson was only hot in Harry Potter, and didn;t behave like a douchelord all the time. Also, Twilight is a book about unrealistic men who are abusive and a total mary sue who just whines about how much she looooves her boyfriend and how she couldn’t do anything for herself. Being depressed and catatonic because your boyfriend left town? What the fu**? Where’s the anger? Where’s the womanly pride that comes with it? It sets women back a few decades in their movement to be strong people who can live without a man. Harry Potter is the true story about love, love for family and friends. Twilight is completely superficial and focuses only on how hot vampires and werewolves are. How the hell is that realistic? And the whole sparkling thing? Original? My a$$! No man should sparkle unless they are teenage, at a rave, and probably gay…. or they’re Magnus Bane…. It’s weird is what it is, it ruined vampires for me! Stephanie Meyer is a brain dead reject who only got as famous with her books because preteen idiotic girls squeal at the mere mention of there being such a “perfect” guy as Edward and Jacob. It’s superficial, and your little blog makes me want to slam my head against my wall at your stupidity.
Oh, and HELENA BONHEIM CARTER IS ONE OF THE GREATEST ACTRESSES OF ALL TIME! SHE CAN BE INSANE, MOTHERLY, CONNIVING, AND UTTERLY PERFECT! BELLATRIX LESTRANGE IS ONE OF THE MOST BRILLIANT VILLAINS OF ALL TIME! AND ONE OF MY FAVORITE CHARACTERS OF ALL TIME! YOU HAVE TO BE AN IDIOT NOT TO RECOGNIZE HELENA’S SHEER BRILLIANCE!!
I spelled it like that on purpose, MUGGLE
Never use Harry Potter language ever! I hate when you people think that Twilight is better because it’s more “romantic” Tell me, Preppy Girl (yes I am spelling that on purpose so this idiot can learn how to write) if some guy that looked like he just came out of a rave covered in glitter told you that he watched you when you were sleeping and wanted to suck your blood, would you let him? Judging from what you wrote earlier, if he was cute then you would let him suck your blood. And for that, I am not going to tell you to go commit suicide (despite you being a disappointment) I am just going to live my happy Harry Potter life pitying you. By the way, that anti-jewish comment of yours, is completely racist. Do you also hate Muslims and Hindus and homosexuals? Stop hating people for their religion or sexual preference, you racist, sexist moron.
Rock on my Harry Potter brothers and sisters!
Gred and Forge
Oh and another thing, listen to actual music not Ke$ha or Paris Hilton (shudders) And how do I know this? I read your profile hoping this was just a sick joke, and that you weren’t a Twilight-moron. Sadly, it seems to be real. Another thing, you mention Twilight being remembered forever. If that’s true then why is it losing it’s popularity? Oh wait, that’s because it’s a fad that will soon be deader than Edward’s fashion sense. And on that day, millions will cheer for a new day of greatness!
once again deflecting from valid points to some tiny detail
you really are pathetic
If you’re trying to use muggle as an insult you failed… we are muggles -_-
Yeah, because it’s so much better to read a novel in which no character development occurs and we learn that women can only be happy if they have a man.
oh my lord.
I laughed. and then i laughed again.
first at Preschool Girl or whatever’s pile of dragon dung…..and then at the brilliant + totally awesome comments by my fellow Potteraniacs!
everyone summed up everything nicely.
but can i just say…i know a certain author whose made-up term/word was included in the dictionary officially: Muggle.
and it wasn’t Shmeyer (God forbid that woman should make up a word when she can’t find herself competent editors).
Potter out! (o,o)
Please tell me this whore is retarded. That’s the only way such fuckery could be okay.
Ok, if someone is going to burn the Twilight books, I’m going to do the same thing with the Harry Potter books.
Burning any book is possible the stupidest thing you can do, without books we sink back into illiteracy, the dark ages… ignorance. Without knowledge and books civilization stops progressing. Only ignorant people burn books. I hate twilight, but I much rather donate it to some middle school than burn the damn books.
Ok, I know that burning books are stupid. But I’m not the one who started it. If you look at the comments who’s posted before, many said that they will/have burn Twilight books. So why are you write this to me? Just because I’ll burn the Harry Potter instead of the Twilight?
I’m no fan of Twilight, but any talk of burning books (any book no matter how offensive) is completely barbaric. As the German poet Heinrich Heine said “That was but a prelude; where they burn books, they will ultimately burn people also.”
Why are you only writing this on my comment? I get it, just because I want to burn the Harry Potter books instead of the Twilight books. Haha, do you know what? I don’t care.
First of all, while not flawless, Harry Potter has more plot on one page than Twilight does in all four books. Rowling has had her story planned since 1990, and it shows when she drops the name of a character that isn’t introduced until the third book in the very first chapter of the entire series, or when something that seemed like a one-shot arc (Tom Riddle’s diary) turns out to be a hint at something central to the entire series. Yes, sometimes that plot is depressing, but that’s part of what makes it amazing. Rowling takes her audience seriously and forces them to confront things like death, prejudice, authority, and morality. Second of all, if sparkling vampires are more realistic than a hidden world of magic, then I’m a hippogriff. Now, first of all, for the “lessons” you claim we learn from Harry Potter:
1. It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.
A few things. First, he wasn’t directly hunting down Voldemort; he was hunting his Horcruxes, the things making him impossible to kill. Second, he was under orders from Dumbledore to go and find them, and only to tell Ron and Hermione about it. Now, Dumbledore might have accompanied him, but he had sort of died after attempting to find one. Third, Harry’s decision to go alone was a big moment for him, character-wise. After his father, mother, godfather, and mentor had all died to protect him, he decided that he was going to take charge because he was too old to be hiding behind human shields. Even though he allows Ron and Hermione to come with him, they’re his equals, not his protectors. Their dropping out of school was a major sacrifice, and, though this happened after they made their decision, Harry was wanted for the alleged murder of Albus Dumbledore, so he couldn’t exactly hop on the Hogwarts Express. This is all without taking into consideration the prophecy that declares that Harry is “the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord.”
2. Violence is totally cool.
No. The ones who start all the violence are evil and disgusting, and their violence has to be countered by the good guys. The Unforgivable Curses, which are illegal and considered immoral by the wizarding community, are the Cruciatus Curse (torture), the Imperius Curse (mind-control), and the Killing Curse (self-evident). Three violent spells, all of which are portrayed as bad. One cannot use an Unforgivable Curse unless they really mean it, meaning that one has to be either very desperate or very cruel. Harry does use one in the seventh book, which, I’ll admit, I do have reservations about, but when he did it he was ultimately trying to help people, and it was the least harmful of the curses. A flaw in the story, yes, but not a huge one.
3. Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.
This is why violence is bad. Each death in the series is treated as any would be in real life. Growing up, Harry always feels the void left by his parents’ deaths. He is absolutely traumatized by the death of Cedric Diggory in proximity to Voldemort’s return. He loses the last of what he could call his family with Sirius, and when Dumbledore dies, it sets the tone for the rest of the book and for the final installment to the series. Even Dobby the House Elf is mourned and given a proper funeral.
4. Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.
Harry’s hot temper is definitely a flaw, but, you know, it’s okay for characters to be flawed. He was fourteen or fifteen when he was acting like this, which is perfectly age appropriate, however annoying it is. Besides, kid’s been through a lot. give him a rest.
5. It’s okay to escape from jail.
Are you talking about Sirius Black? Absolutely, it’s okay for him to escape from jail. The man was innocent, the jail is full of dementors, which are clinical depression incarnate, and he only escaped when he saw that he could finally avenge the death of his best friends and possibly prove his own innocence. Whenever anyone else escapes Azkaban, it’s a Death Eater, and it’s pretty serious.
6. Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!
Well, yeah. I’m going to assume you’re an American, and if you aren’t, screw it, this rant is still directed at you. Not even the Founding Fathers of the United States trusted government. The first constitution drafted, the Articles of Confederation, was so loose that the states ran themselves like individual nations. When the Framers were called in to write the modern Constitution, they left a lot of room for fluidity (regular elections, for example), and they STILL had to add an amendment system to keep the people happy. The Ministry of Magic doesn’t appear to have this sort of system, so, yes, when there are dangerous people in control of that government (Fudge and his contrary paranoia and unwillingness to recognize danger, Scrimgeour’s distrust of the wrong people and obsession with good PR, Thicknesse being Voldemort’s puppet), it’s completely valid to challenge the government. Just remember the first words of the document that declared America to be America: “When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”
7. It’s okay to break the rules.
See above. Also, when there’s a deranged killer at large and you’re the only one who can stop him, I’d say it’s pretty justified to be out past bedtime. Dumbledore certainly cuts him a lot of slack for it.
8. It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.
Now, I do agree that this isn’t a very smart thing to do in most cases, but most of the time when Harry’s yelling at a teacher, it’s justified. Most of the time, when he yells, it’s at Snape, who’s an abusive git. He also yells at Umbridge, whose actions are deterring learning, putting lives in danger, and also very abusive and git-like. He yells at Dumbledore when he’s royally screwed up, and McGonagall when he feels like everything is going wrong. It’s kind of dumb and a bit annoying, but it works, and Harry often receives punishment for it, as would any student. As for the other authority figures, I’m all for it. One of my favorite parts is when he yells at Scrimgeour.
As for what Harry Potter DOES teach us:
1. Always stand up for what you believe in, no matter how injust the world is.
2. The power of self-sacrifice, both in the form of Harry’s mother and the Boy Who Lived himself.
3. “It is our choices… that show what we truly are, not our abilities.” -Albus Dumbledore
4. Loyalty, trust, friendship, and love (platonic, familial, or romantic) are the ultimate weapons.
5. Brains over beauty. (Hermione is not very pretty, but she is one of Harry’s dearest and most valuable friends, and one of the most beloved characters in the series. Harry himself is pretty gangly and wears glasses, but he’s the main character.)
6. Nobody is perfect, but one’s actions can make flaws easier to forgive.
7. Family is not always the people you are related to.
8. Authority can be, but is not always, right. Exercise caution when dealing with it.
9. Everybody, no matter how different they are, should be treated with the same respect you would like to receive.
10. Lying can be dangerous.
And that’s just the first ten I could think of. I’d like to see you apply those to Twilight. I’ll bet you most of them are nowhere to be seen.
Potterfans and logic unite to fight the forces of Twilight!
because we are TOTALLY AWESOME 😀
Totally awesome? Is that a AVPM/S thing?! YES?! Even if its not, it shows how much has spun off a Harry Potter. Do you see a new glee star become famous from a TWILIGHT musical? I think NOT!?
Harry Potter teaches you violence is good? Girl or guy, have you ever even fucking READ Harry Potter? Fuck, this article, you can’t even call this article, this thing here is such a kind of bullshit. Why do you keep writing this shit? I like HP, you like Twilight. So what? Do I go stupid and crazy and write “durrrr HARRY POTTAH IS SO MUCH FUCKING BETTA THAN TWILIGHT durrr AND HERE’S WHY!” How stupid is this? Can’t you just let it be, why do you offend Harry Potter in all its entirety? The ultimate aim of this series to teach is readers that: Love is everything. Love is everywhere, love can save you. And yes, this really goes along with everything you said. Fuck, get out the HP books and read them for real.
And in the meanwhile, GROW UP.
All I am going to say is how much I loved reading all the amazing pro Harry potter comments to this completely moronic article-if you can call it that! The comments are at 330 right now and every single one of them are anti twilight! Thank you preppygurl for uniting the HP so diligently against your stupidity!
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This is a load of bullsh*t! Preppy gurl, you and your screwed up idol, Bella, make me embarassed to be a girl! Luckily, for me and my fellow females, there are still characters like Hermione Granger that show us it isn’t that bad to be a girl.
Twilight teaches people that pedophelia is okay, (Edward is how old? Over a hundred?), necrophelia is normal (you know, Edward is dead. Sleeping with him is like sleeping with a dead guy. And technically, seeing he doesn’t have any blood he shouldn’t be able to have sex with Bella) and that Beastiality is fine. They are NOT. They are crimes, seriously.
Face it, Stephanie Meyer has about as much creativity as a brick. Her screwed up ‘vampires’ are just that. Not hot, not sweet. Screwed up. Sparkly. Creeps. Really, if someone was to watch me sleeping I would call the cops. Immediately. It is not sweet, it is creepy.
If all your arguments, or the basis of them, is about how ‘hot’ the actors are you need to go and get a life! Not everything is about looks. There are personalities too, but then, being a twilight lover you don’t understand. That’s because none of the twilight characters actually HAVE a personality.
But hey, if you want to be some mentally deranged person with the personality of carboard, that is your choice. Hope you enjoy reading people shoot you down in flames, again….and again….and again….
Hi there. Since it seems like everybody is flying off the deep end with the harry potter love i think ill try to be fair. Emphasis on try given that this post literally makes me want to cry.
When i first read the twilight saga i thought it seemed okay, but as time went by i realised that it was pretty shit. The problems with twilight are pretty basic and cause a catastrophe.
For one smeyer let the love totally overshadow the rest of the plot, i mean how she managed to write four books ,based solely on
edward ” i love you”- Bella “i love u”- edward “but i could kill u” is totally beyond me.
Also she changed the vampire concept way to much, for instance look at buffy the vampire slayer, it was an excellent tv show because the vampire concept was reinvented to be more modern but not totallly reinvented to loose all originality
Also, twilight teaches girls that the best thing to do with their life isd to find an attractive boyfriend and hold on to him, this is retarded. If u were to grab a boyfriend at bella’s age and marry him when u leave school, u would find that in ten years he would be unattractive and use would have nothing in common.
Harry Potter, on the other hand teaches kids moral values, to stand up for those you love such as when lily died for harry or harry died for everybody. It is wrong to be racist- such as voldemorts treatment to muggles and mudbloods (no offence intended).
Also harry was a respectable 16 when he started to go out with ginny, bella was 14 when she wanted to sleep with ed, can you spell slag. Also harry manages to put his duties before love, he cant bear to hurt ginny so he leaves hjer in book 6, and what does ginny do. She starts to fight for justice, unlike bella who mopes for two months and then starts to endanger her life.
Harry potter also teaches children to fight for what you believe in, harry, ron and hermione fight against authority figures simply because the authorities are wrong, i mean they’re all either imperiused or just evil. Also they don’t trust the ministry because in book 5 fudge is a complete retard, and rufus is just using people to seem like he’s doing something and in book 7 its evil.
Also harry potter has good character and plot development such as with neville and luna, twilight sucks, alice, who was easily the most interesting character got a half a page of background and then faded to the background.
Also hp teaches girls to be strong and gives them positive role models, hermione, mc gonagall and molly weasley all show that girls can be just as smart stern and brilliant as boys.
Harry potter does not show that death is no big deal, i mean they dont kill anyone until the end of the 4th book and they show all of the dead respect, it is retarded to fight in a war and not kill anybody, that leads to an unrealistic and shit anticlimax as was the case in breaking dawn.
The fact that the twilight actors are attractive doesnt give them the right to act shit, i have seen all three films and i can honestly say i have never seen worse acting. Also breaking dawn doesn’t deserve to be a two parter, i mean harry potter a lot has been missed over the past ten years, so a two parter means they can do it justice, a 2 parter for breaking dawn is just a waste.
So to sum up, im trying to be nice but i dont see how anyone can actually try and argue that twilight is even remotely near harry potters league.
Bella is NOT 14! actually READ the books before commenting, please!
you read harry potter before writing a completely ridiculous article, girl.
preppy, did you not read this at all?! HarryPotter Rocks stated at the beginning that she has read all the twilight saga. and you’re such a hypocrite. like loveharrypotter said, try READING harry potter before you judge it. you sound as if you have only watched the movies of either franchise, and even then half-slept through them or something.
you are pathetic.
How old are you? like 7? have you not experienced enough good things to realize when something is INCREDIBLY MEDIOCRE?
Lol you took that incredibly well written and educated essay and deflected onto ONE DETAIL
You really are the stupidest person I’ve ever seen, You belong on failblog
preppygury, is that all you have to say about what she just said? “Bella is NOT 14!” really you come up with a convincing argument.
Actually, I tried to read the books. I threw up about 20 pages in.
I swear I’m not lying.
One more thing, this is a continuation of my previous comment. You claim Twilight is more realistic, bcause “magic is impossible.” Um listen brat, being a vampire is also impossible. Is this some kind of a joke? You claim Twilight is better because Harry Potter is unrealistic, but TWILIGHT IS JUST AS UNREALISTIC! You are an idiot! You do nothing but contradict yourself! Also: “The volteri are realistic villans, not insane freaks in cloaks.” Thats exactally what they are! God you are a moron! This has got to be the most idiotic unintelligent article I’ve ever seen! And as for the “the characters are hotter thing,” I have tolled you people time and again THE ACTORS IN THE MOVIE ADAPTATION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE STORY QUALITY. These “arguments” are so laughable, I’m starting to think this is just a joke. If it isnt a joke, WOW, I pity you. Look around you. Nobody is on your side.
“Jo Rowling is a terrific writer while Stephanie Meyer cant write worth a darn,” -Stephen King. The greatest quote ever spoken.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAH no.
what a terrible article… well not surprosing coming from a twilight fan.
yeah it sounds like you havent read either series, and that you only like twilight for the hot actors.
twilight is the most shallow and badly written book ive ever read. in fact, our school librarian hates it so much she doesnt let them into her library because she thinks its horribly written and disgusting and has badly developed characters and a bland storyline and heaps of soppy dialogue and the movies arent much better. bella gets depressed and attempts to harm herself because of some stupid sprakly vampire who ditches her. grow up.
harry potter has a complex storyline and is beautifully written. the characters are perfectly developed and j.k rowling planned out the books so well that detailes from previous books turn out to be majorly important in later books. its about a fight against evil for love, justice and freedom. harry stays true to his word, loyal to his friends.
did i mention that harry potter the best selling series in the world? or the movies are the most successful movie franchise of all time? or that we have a FRIKKIN THEME PARK?
yeah ok bye,
go sleep and dream about your perfect vamipre guy who will make you unsatisfied with any guy you ever meet.
I’m just gonna add on to the things harry potter has: two TOTALLY AWESOME musicals.
you just can’t beat that.
Well a twilight musical would just be evanescence and linkin park abusing women
YES!!!!! You, my friend are TOTALLY AWESOME!!!! Red Vine? And, a new GLEE STAR is coming from those musicals! Twilight musicals? No.
ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS RIGHT NOW?! I can’t even believe what I’ve read. The Harry Potter books have been around for 13 years and the films have been around for 10. They’ve made a Harry Potter theme park. Twilight has been around for 4 years? It took them, what, around 2 years to make 3 films? Woooh dedication.
Have you actually read the Harry Potter books? Those books show that love can get you anywhere. Love concurs all. Harry survived Voldemort’s attack thanks to his mother’s love. She loved him so much she sacrificed herself to save him and her love protected him till the day he turned 17 and became a “legal wizard”. Harry walked of into the forbidden forest to meet Voldemort. He went in, facing death and no one had any idea of what he was doing. He was willing to sacrifice himself to save everyone else because he LOVED them and he didn’t want them to die for him. Harry was surrounded by people who loved him and was willing to die for him. So Bella going aaaaaall the way to Italy is nothing compared to what a lot of people did in the Harry Potter books to protect the ones they love. In Harry Potter you also get to see all types of love. The love you have for your family, your friends and also the love you have for that special someone. In Twilight on the other hand, you just get to see the love, more lust, Bella feels towards Edward. She’s so in love that she can’t live without him after she’s known him for 6 months.
Meyer more creative than Rowling? Please. JK Rowling created a WHOLE WORLD which co-exist with the real world. She created her own creatures but also used a few which already existed. She dedicated most of her life to these books. When you reread them you notice how she hints at things to come in books who weren’t going to be written until years later. That just shows how much time she spent on it and how much she planned everything out. Smeyer did not do that. Her grammar is worse than mine sometimes and English is my second language. She spelled things wrong etc.
Twilight is not sweet and romantic. It’s not timeless. It won’t live on forever. When they’re done with all the films, it’s going to slowly die because the twihards will move on and find something new to obsess over. The Harry Potter fans however have grown up with the Harry Potter books. I was six years old when the first one came out and my father read it to me. He never finished it and I picked it up and finished it myself. Harry Potter has always been a part of my life and I’m now 19. I’ve grown out a lot of things these past years, people have come and gone but Harry Potter has always stayed and he’ll remain in my life until the very end. The theme park is always going to be there. The books will live on as the HP fans of today grow up and get children of their own. Because I’m sure most of them are going to read the books to them.
Harry Potter does not teach you that it’s okay to drop out of school. Harry drop out of school because Dumbledore left him with things he, and no one else could do. He was the only one who could stop Voldemort and he wanted to protect the ones he love. Hermione and Ron come along because they are Harry’s best friends and they’ve promised to always be with him. They are loyal to him and they love him. Why would they need adult supervision? They were almost adults themselves. It doesn’t show that violence is “totally cool”. THERE WAS A FREAKING WAR. It doesn’t show that death is no big deal but it does show that death is a part of life and it’s going to hurt when you lose someone. It shows you that you have to be strong and be able to move on. “The ones that love us never really leave us.” They’ll always be a part of you. Take a look at the real world, deaths occur EVERY DAY.
It doesn’t show that “just because you’re an orphan you can be a jerk to all your friends”. Of course Harry felt as if his friends didn’t “get it” when he was going through something. He’d witnessed things his friends not even could imagine in their wildest dreams. People were dying because they were trying to protect him. The darkest wizard of ALL TIME were after him and wanted to kill him. That same wizard could get inside his head. He fought Voldemort during his first year at Hogwarts when he was 11. He fought and killed a Bazilisk during his second year at age 12. He fought of hundreds of Dementors during his third year at age 13 with a spell even most grown wizards have trouble with. He was in the Triwizard Tournament during his fourth year at age 14 even though you had to be at least 17 to take part of it. He fought a dragon and survived. He swam in the black lake, almost drowned and he saved Ron and Fluer’s sister even though he wasn’t allowed to save more than one. Harry Potter doesn’t show that it’s “okay” to escape from jail. They managed to escape because Voldermort had returned. They didn’t trust the Ministry of Magic because Voldemort had taken over. So if they hadn’t “rejected them completely” they’d been as much as dead. They were looking for muggleborns, Hermione was muggleborn and she’d be in danger if the found her. Harry was the “unwanted Nr. 1. They had to hide from the ministry. It doesn’t show it’s okay to break the rules but they did because they would have been as good as dead if they hadn’t. They were rude and shouted at Umbridge because she was pure evil. She tortured the students. Harry was rude to the Dursley’s because they let him sleep in a cupboard for 11 years of his life. They treated him so bad, they didn’t give him any love what so ever. Of course he’s rude to them.
Of course magic is impossible, of course you can’t apparate and pop up where ever you want, of course there’s no such thing as floo powder but you know what? That’s okay! Because they are books. Stories. Not real. It’s okay to use your imagination and dream and wish for those things to actually be possible. The books aren’t just depressing. Lots of happy things happen. All of it get a happy ending. So you’re saying the scenarios Meyer writes about are more likely to happen? Oh, so you think it’d be possible for you to run into a vampire you’ll live happily ever after with? Or maybe you’ll run into a little shape shifting boy. I don’t think a horde of vampires are going to attack any time soon. Vampires and werewolves are just as real as magic.
Twilight doesn’t have more realistic villains than Harry Potter. The Volturi are just a group of vampires. I’m sure you however can find crazy, insane people out there running around in cloaks and killing people. Taylor Lautner’s muscles have nothing to do with the books or the plot line what so ever, nor does Rpatz good looks. The fact that you took Edwards sparkling body as an example shows of much Twilight fails in comparison to Harry Potter. Kristen Stewart isn’t very talented if you compare to all the other hugely famous actors and actresses HP have among the older characters. Seriously. Have you seen the cast?
I’ve never heard a HP fan diss Rpatz as Cedric. He did a brilliant job playing Cedric. He’s a good actor, which you can see in other films he’s been in as well. But as Edward he ain’t that brilliant.
You got everything wrong.
hahaha your articles and your thoughts make me laugh. i didn’t even bother to read your article, and i’m sorry that you had to waste your time writing that to prove a point that no one will believe. you just keep on thinking that Stephanie myer can write love, but we all know j.k rowling is going down in history:) please stop wasting your time writing this crap because NO ONE CARES. thank you:)
by the way has anyone seen vampires suck? hilarious! xD and people harry potter 7 coming out in November 15! can’t wait!
thanks for trying. LOL
atleast they don’t sell SEX. LOL
hahahahahahahahahaha. I LOVE this BLOG.
it makes me laugh out loud.
thanks for entertaining me. hahahahahahaha
Okay, SO many people are saying that Harry Potter is better than Twilight. That’s SO not true!
*yes it is 😛
Twilight is a timeless tale of love, then love lost and found again. It shows how love can get you through everything. It’s such a sweet story about the things people do for love, like Bella goes all the way to Italy to save Edward from the Volturi, for instance.
*what a GIRL. tskkk. DESPERAtE.
Also, Twilight is MUCH more creative, I mean, Stephenie Meyer created a new kind of Vampire, instead of just using a stereotypical, Dracula type Vampire. I mean, they sparkle, how awesome is that? Plus, they’re MAJORLY hot instead of being creepy. And the werewolves aren’t your typical “full-moon-flesh-eater” type. It shows that Stephenie Meyer is actually creative while JK Rowling has no original ideas at all.
*hahaahahahha. VAMPIRE. yah sure. MAYBE A FAIRY!
*also JKR created another world. another universe. many spells.government.laws.WOW. how pathetic can you be.
Twilight is just so sweet and romantic, a fabuous, timeless tale that will likely be around forever. Harry Potter is just a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters, and has no plot. TWILIGHT 4 EVER!
* LOL. Really. Getting depressed because a boy left you. huh. REALLY> o____O
What kind of argument is the OP pushing?
A timeless tale of love? Letters to Juliet has a better love story for Christ’s sake
Also Stephanie Meyer is more creative? JK Rowling created an entire universe instead of just arbitrarily adding things in after each book
Also lack of originality is a terrible argument considering everything made EVER came from something else
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/1839-The-Twilight-Saga-Eclipse
If it wasn’t for the comments on this article, I would’ve lost my faith in humanity.
Okay, so you’re saying that Harry Potter is unrealistic, while Twilight is? What, pray tell, is realistic about sparkly vampires and sexy shape-shifters who don’t even get that they’re not werewolves?
If we wanted someting realistic, we’d read Tom Sawyer or something.
Just saying.
You’re such a confused little girl. Nothing you said was true, other than Lucius being hot, which attractivness should not be how you judge a movie. Kristen Steward it a horrible actress, you obviously just aren’t smart enough to understand the plot in harry potter, and you have to be about five to think that your other points are valid.
Ok so basically everything that you are saying as being a good argument as to why Twilight is better then Harry Potter (I gasp at the thought if that), is completely and utterly bogus. One important thing that you are evidently not grasping is that everything that Harry Potter does he does for Love. This is a legit argument it’s not some bullshit sappy crap that Twitlit offers you. Secondly to say that Twitlit is arguably more realistic is idiot based. Ok yeah so Harry Potter offers you bad guys such as Voldemort and his followers running around in capes killing people and causing terror throughout the world. Honestly how is this any different from half the idiots that we have in the real world (except in the real world they don’t wear capes). The world is not some happy happy joy joy place where Vampires sparkle. To even say that vampires sparkle is also beginning to kill all that is god about the vampire legends and stories. Vampires are meant to be dark conniving creatures not these creepy pedophiles that twitlit so lovingly portrays. I mean have you honestly ever picked up a copy of Dracula and read it. Meyer is killing the vampire stories w/ Twitlit. And if Twitlit is so much better then Harry Potter then why is the majority of it’s followers demented teenage girls rather then an extended varied audience like Harry Potter offers? It doesn’t matter if Harry Potter has magic and lives in a magical world. That’s not the major premise for the book, rather his story is. But to say that magic is completely unrealistic is then to say that all the mythical creatures that twilight has are not real either. How could one exist w/o the prior, is what I think?
Oh and to say that Twilight will be around forever is completely idiotic. How many years has I been around and how many more fans does Harry Potter still have? Oh and az to the acting capabilities of the twitlit cast all I have to say tothat is that Edward really needs to get rid of the damn unibrow. People like you who write shit like this online are a major thing of what is wrong w/ the world when u can’t even grasp basic concepts in a book that are thoroughly emphasized.
Bah, that was the funniest thing I have ever heard. You know when even Twilight FANS can’t reason properly on its side that really proves the actual level of Twilight and the lot’s that like it. I was incredibly enjoying myself while reading, you either use the same 5 empty and exaggerating adjectives for Twilight or you list up reasons why Harry Potter is ideologically bad and don’t even realize that 90% of them are true for Twilight too. That’s so naively sweet and silly that I can’t be angry with you.
You read Twilight didn’t you? I bet you did. So didn’t it come down to your little head that Edward was NOT enjoying himself as a vampire? So really, being a blood drinking freak out of society is indeed way much better than dying a happy man. If I’m not mistaken Bella is flying up and down the good old USA as well – on her own as well -, leaves home without parental allowance. Edward is hot. O-kay.. that’s your personal preference, you have an interesting taste, but let it be. Harry Potter doesn’t respect the government… true, true.. but Bella is so messed up among her freaks that she doesn’t even have a clue about the government.. is that better? In Ancient Greece not taking part in politics was a thing to punish, you know. And – not to count back so much time – about 50 years ago it was also something to punish when an underage person ran off from home against his father’s will. In what way are the twilight werewolves different? They are hairless? You certainly have a point there. And what says Twilight? It’s okay to run off from home. It’s okay to have yourself turned into a vamp. It’s okay to drink the blood of animals. Incest and pedophilia is cool (violence isn’t). Thank you Twilight. Thank you sweetie. Think before you write something down.
OMFG you must be retarded. Harry Potter Fans Don’t Give A Shit About A Guys Hotness. And You Say That Rowling Has No Imagination, She Made Up A WHOLE World AND She Made Up Her Own Sport Quidditch. Unlike Your Beloved Meyer Who Used The Worst Spot In The World Baseball!
Alright, hun, since people before me have torn apart your article well enough, I’ll just say that I really was keen on Twilight as I was reading it. When I was in the midst of reading the saga, I really liked the plot (yes, I know…I was young and foolish), and was excited for the movies to come out (big mistake there). However, after I finished the books, I looked back on the time I had wasted, and realized that Twilight made absolutely no sense, emphasized no good morals or values, and was, to put it nicely, complete rubbish. Now, to put across some points that others had forgotten to mention regarding not, in truth, you article, but instead the pan out of all of the comparisons ever made, here is a short list.
-1. Throughout the series, Jo has been especially careful to include many important details that we find out later have an enourmous impact on the character’s lives. She explains thoroughly ever character, event, and all the choices that each character makes. She is a phenomenal foreshaddower, drawing the reader into her captivating writing style and consistantly interests and astonishes the reader with her insite and parallels to world issues today and of the past (the Holocaust, for example)
-2. Jo spent montehs wiring, and for some books, years editing to ensure that her work will last for decades to come. She is very careful with her language choice throughout these novels, and the books have been written so well that there are multiple motives to every action, and analysis of this fine series is incredibly deep.
-3. I aknowledge that you enjoy the Twilight series, but there are many errors in the books. Stephanie Meyer writes herself into the books, as the helpless flower trapped in a secluded town away from her original friends. I belive that there is no moral the the story, it is a simple, faux fairy tale, with very little to do with ethics and world issues. She stresses that on must find true love at a young age to in order to be happy, a very bad message to send to the teenage girls and middle aged singles that read these books.
-4. When Edward, the obsessive, oeverprotective, distant boyfriend leaves town ‘for Bella’s own good’, Bella gets depressed, and Meyer shows that you need to priotitize your love life, even if it means losing your true friends (such as Jacob), and practically killing yourself.
-5. I admit, when i first read the Twilight series, i really liked them while i was reading them. But when i was finished with the series, i jsut forgot about them, and i realized that there was no meat to the story. And as i think back on it, it was just a fluff story about a stalker and sparkly boy who decided to give his girlfriend hell, and ruin her life by making her immortal just for the pleasure of sex. What kind of message does that send to youths today?
-6. By Meyer’s description, what with the sparkles and superpowers of vampires, Edward seems like a really emotionally messed up Peter Pan. Is that original?
-7. I, personally, prefer stories about friendship and bravery and epic battle rather than creeper boyfriends and over descriptive, repetitive paragraphs. It’s your choice.
If you’d like to get a book that gets to the heart of what the hell of an immortal life means, try Anne Rice’s “Interview with a Vampire”, or better still, go back to Bramstoker’s thrilling, “Dracula”. Both have depth of character, rich story lines, and insite to an imagination. There are no vampires in Twilight. Only creepy sparkle-faeries.
Hi, I love this comment because I can relate to it so much.
I once liked Twilight until I looked back and realised how awful it is.
Harry Potter, on the other hand… I don’t think I’ll EVER regret being a fan.
Oh, I forgot to mention the UK versus US Harry Potter War. See, UK is obviously winning, because they have JK Rowling and the Harry Potter films. The US, trying to combat that, came up with Twilight, which failed and is continuing to fail miserably. However, we do have the Potter Musicals and the Potter Theme park. This probably isn’t really relevant to this discussion, I just wanted to bring it up to further insult Twilight’s popularity (: Harry Potter will be around for centuries. Twilight..well..you know where I’m going.
i totaly see what u r sayin PreppyGurl. I agee 100% that Twilight is bettr than Harry Potter, everything that u stated is fact. Twilight is a classic, and will be remembered for years to come and Harry Potter will probably never be heard of again after they quit making the movies.
Twilight brought me thru some really depressing times, it made me feel better when I was sad. I tried to read the first Harry Potter book and feel asleep after the first chapter! Its that broing!
and kristen stewart is beautiful and an amazing actresss! I don’t know y any1 would say that she sucks! She plays Bella perfectly! Bella is my role modle and I want to marry some1 just like Edward! I also want to name my daughter Renesmee if I have a daughter.
JK Rawling also copied Stephenie Meyer, Jacob Black was here first. She could have thought of a different name for that Serious guy. He also tryns into a dog! I mean that sounds an awful lot like Jacob Black to me. She just can’t compare to the wonderful work of Stephenie Meyer.
All the characters in the Harry Potter books are gross and the people in Twilight are so beautiful! Why would you choose ugly over pretty? Nothing that you guys have said in the comments above me makes sense. u guys must just be ignorant and uneducated.
Did you say J.K. Rowling copied Meyer?! Sorry, for your information Harry Potter came first. Twilight wasn’t published until like… 2003. The first Harry Potter book was published in 1997. So actually, if anyone copied anyone, Meyer copied Rowling. So, sorry to burst you bubble, actaully no. I quite enjoy bursting your bubble. And it’s quite easy seeing as you can’t even come up with any valid points.
I applaud you, Delena.
Harry Potter was written before twilight, you putrescent little brat. How could Rowling have copied Meyer if her book wasn’t even written yet?! Prisoner of Azkaban was written in 1999. Twilight was written in 2005. So HOW could Rowling have copied something that didn’t even exist yet!? You are a waste of human life. Please walk into traffic.
So..let me get this straight. You’re saying that 1. Even though Harry Potter was published years before Twilight was even thought of, you think Rowling plagiarized? I’m not even going to try to explain the impossibility of this, because if you had a brain, you would have figured out that this is nonsense. 2. You’re going to name your daughter Renesmee? At lease Albus Severus and James Serius can be pronounced! Renesmee is a reddikulusly stupid name. 3. You’re basically saying that you think ugly people don’t deserve to live. Just saying that makes you an ugly person in my mind. Looks do not matter at all, though you seem to believe it, unfortunately. All I can hope for you is that you get what you deserve. A lighting bolt coming down from the Gods of Harry Potter might be efficient enough a punishment for you. 4. Let me point out that you just called us ignorant and uneducated, while spelling a third of the words wrong in your post. Just pointing that out..
Never be heard of again?! THERE’S A THEME PARK! People go to London simply to see places where the movies were shot! JK Rowling was just featured on the final season of Oprah! Can Twilight say ANYTHING like this?! Have YOU ever taken a family vacation to visit FORKS?! Really. Come on.
I don’t know about you, but for me reading Twilight when I’m depressed or upset would be like committing suicide. Those books are so FULL of angst. I’m not saying that Harry Potter is the most cheerful piece of literature all the time, but just as you claim that Twilight has done for you, Harry Potter has helped me through some really tough times.
JK Rowling copied Stephenie Meyer? REALLY? There are tears coming out of my eyes because of how hard I am laughing. Twilight was published in 2005 in its original hardcover edition. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (which is the first book in which SIRIUS Black is introduced) was published on July 8, 1999. 1999!!! HOW do you expect JKR to have copied SMeyer, when the latter’s book wouldn’t come out for another SIX YEARS!?
I refuse to rebut the last paragraph, because of the amount of superficiality that just oozes out from between the lines.
Ignorant and uneducated, are we? You stared this sentence with a u. “tryns” is not a word. I feel bad for your children (daughter). NONE of what preppygurl said is fact, merely misguided opinions. I’d be surprised if you didn’t get someone to type this out for you. Honestly. Your grammar and sentence structure are ridiculous. Stop wasting your time doting on Edward and learn how to use the English language.
First of all try to spell J.K Rowling’s name correct. Second of all, as to you say she coppied the twit author of Twitlit (yes I’m spelling that incorrectly to prove even more of a point), is completely and utterly bogus. Harry Potter came out first and Sirius Black is mentioned in the first book when Hagrid says he got the bike from Serius Black, Harry’s Godfather.
That’s great that twitlit brought you through some really depressing shit, but to make all these false accusations on what Harry Potter really is is completely idiotic. And if you only look at something because they’re pretty is shallow. That’s your fucking opinion and it’s a retarded one. How the fuck are we ignorant and uneducated when, as you just stated, didn’t even get past the first chapter of Harry Potter. The majority of us have read both series and can actually come t based on fact rather then dimwittedness.
“u guys must just be ignorant and uneducated.”
I think you’re talking about yourself and preppyGURL here lima loser! Your argument is laughable and just as pointless if not more than this stupid article- if you can call it that!
And I am surprised that none of the comments made sense to you, because the intellectual capacity of HP fans is way beyond the reach of your narrow minded, 3 year old brain!
Ahahaha! You don’t think it’s a little sad that only one person out of 300 and something doesn’t hate you? Hate is a strong word? Yes I know that’s why I used it.
idiot. idiotidiotidiotidiot.
Potterheads unite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And HOW DARE you call me uneducated? i’m on the High Honor roll, all of the Reading/LA teachers HAVE READ THE STORIES. You are such an unrespectful person. You are just an idiot.
Gretel out.
child…
i think you need to see a psychologist.
Kristen is a good actress, and Talyor just did want the producers wanted him to do. However, Bella is a social and emtional outcast. Jacob is always soooo angry or soooo mad, all the time.
J.K.Rowling is the role model that newer authors aspire to be, including Meyer. All the characters are amazing in Harry Potter because Rowling created a whole different world inside of ours.
And, hell no, Draco Malfoy and Ron Weasley are not gross. Ever.
And, I am a senior in an awesome high school taking all APs. I am not ignorant nor uneducated.
Give HP a chance, and you will never regret it.
Take care,
Lily Potter
Is this like for real? Do you really think like this?
God, you’re such an idiot it’s not even funny.
Ok, it is funny.
Ok, are you for real!? First and foremost, HARRY POTTER is amazing and Twilight sucks. Harry Potter is a tale about good triumphing over evil, and choosing between what is right and what is easy. Twilight is about how important it is to have a boyfriend. I think that Harry kinda has a right to accuse his friends of ‘not getting it’; his parents were killed when he was 1 year old by the guy who also tried to kill him, he was then brought up by a family who hated him, then he goes to Hogwarts and almost gets killed each year by Voldemort, who won’t rest until Harry is dead!
Twilight teaches you that if you loose your boyfriend it’s okay to go into major depression mode and freeze out everyone. It also teaches you it’s ok to lead people on! Harry Potter isn’t about sex or relationships like Twilight, it’s about something much, much more important.
Stephanie Meyers is more creative that J.K? You have to be kidding me! J.K created a whole new world! Stephanie created a few new species, hardly anything big. And are you seriously implying that VAMPIRES are likely to occur? Somehow, I highly doubt that. People like you are evidently just in love with the idea of being with Edward Cullen. I hate to tell you this but you are never going to find a vampire boyfriend, and you are never going to be Bella Swan.
There is no way that Harry Potter is a mash-up of ridiculous plot-lines, it ALL links together, have you even READ the books!? Twilight is the most predictable and pathetic thing I have ever read. Stephanie Meyers has obviously based Bella on herself…no wonder Rob was uncomfortable whilst reading it. Also, whilst the actors in the Harry Potter franchise actually are dedicated and loved the time they spent on Harry Potter, Rob Pattinson said Twilight was boring. Yeah, suck on that.
Harry Potter is the franchise of the generation and will NEVER be forgotten, it’s just that epic that it will live on forever, whereas Twilight will fade out in a few years after some new and desirable vampire love story comes out.
Just reading this made me love all my Harry Potter friends so much more. HARRY POTTER WILL NEVER MOVE OVER!
Especially not for shit. Whoops, sorry, I spelled Twi*igh* wrong.
And, DARREN CRISS is about to be on GLEE because he was discovered via a HARRY POTTER MUSICAL! NOTHING LIKE THIS HAS HAPPENED WITH A TWI*IGH* MUSICAL!
PreppyG-I-R-L
Shut. The. Hell. Up.
Just reading this made me love all my Harry Potter friends so much more. HARRY POTTER WILL NEVER MOVE OVER!
Especially not for shit. Whoops, sorry, I spelled Twi*igh* wrong.
And, DARREN CRISS is about to be on GLEE because he was discovered via a HARRY POTTER MUSICAL! NOTHING LIKE THIS HAS HAPPENED WITH A TWI*IGH* MUSICAL!
PreppyG-I-R-L
Shut. The. Hell. Up.
Please? -.-
Just reading this made me love all my Harry Potter friends so much more. HARRY POTTER WILL NEVER MOVE OVER!
Especially not for shit. Whoops, sorry, I spelled Twi*igh* wrong.
This article is SHIT!
Your reasons are SHIT!
You are superficial and obsessed with looks.
And even so, why on EARTH didn’t you mention Tom Felton for looks.
You. Are. A. Stupid. Little. Child.
And, DARREN CRISS is about to be on GLEE because he was discovered via a HARRY POTTER MUSICAL! NOTHING LIKE THIS HAS HAPPENED WITH A TWI*IGH* MUSICAL!
PreppyG-I-R-L
Shut. The. Hell. Up.
Please? -.-
luvsedwardandjasper…are you for real? I really don’t think I can take you serious.
okay well their post just disappeared. WTF?
They’re embarressed. I bet they just can’t stand being insulted by a band of Harry Potter Lovers! UNITE!
HA! this is the biggest load of rubbish ive ever read!!!
harry potter teaches you
stand up for what you believe in
fight for whats right
protect your friends and family
everyone equal no matter race or blood or anything else
sometimes kids can be the hero
kids can do just as much as adults
sometimes adults dont know whats best but you can trust them
AND SO MUCH MORE!!!
and the death eaters and voldemort are like a mix between the KKK and the holocost, therefore JK is bringing real world issues into her story, unlike meyers who is teaching you nothing. harry potter shows how you have to make the ultimate sacrifice for those you love. put them before yourself. like harry loves ginny but he lets her go so shes safe because if she was with him then voldemort would go after her. and harry isnt a jerk to his friends. hes under so much stress and he doesnt want them to come with because he doesnt want to put them in danger. and the whole thing about ‘hot’ guys is stupid! it has nothing to do with the books!!! and robert pattinson is disgusting. he doesnt even wash his hair. tom felton, sean biggerstaff, daniel radcliff, rupert grint, the phelps twins, Edward Randell, devon murray, mathew lewis and thats just a few!!!! and the twilight bad guys are SO unrealistic!!!! it teaches you if you break the law they rip your head off and throw you into the fire!!! and sparkiling is the stupidest thing ive EVER heard!!! and JK was SO original!!! like wrackspurts! and nargles!!!! and she wrote the extra books! like she wrote a wizard fairytale book! and made up an entire book of beasts! and an entire game quidditch! and the history of it! how much more original can ya get?!?!?! if you cant see that your mental!!!
and JK wrote a tale of love to! except it was love of friendship and family! not another dumb romance!!! relationships arent the only kind of love! this is a stronger love
this could not posibly be real no one is this stuped…….. this must be a joke right?
if it isnt a joke (witch it moste likly is)
WHAT IS RONG WITH YOU PREPPY GURL (nice job spelling girl right it makes you look SOOOOO smart)
AND ALL THE COMENTS I READ ON THIS ARTICLE ARE JUST MAKING FUN OF YOU. DONT YOU GET IT NO ONE LIKES YOU OR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT TWILIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
OMG I LUURRRVVV Twilight TOO! Im gunna marry Edward, hez HOTTT! And Bella rulezz and yah, Harry potter sux, theze peoplez hav no clue wat their tlking bout. TWILIGHT 4EVER
You suck, Preppy Skank
LOL Luna Lovegood
ROFLMAO
I love you.
learn to spell. they arent werewolves (says it IN THE BOOKS dumsh!t). it is not awesome that they sparkle, it is gay. extremely gay. youre probably some twelve year old girl with the reading level of a 4th grader because thats what the twilight books were written for and the harry potter books are a little more complicated and that is why you dont like them because your dumsh!t brain cant handle it. dumsh!t…
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention when I commented before:
Our angst-ridden greasy-haired guy is ten times the man your angst-ridden greasy-haired guy will ever be. Edward can read minds? Pfft. Snape can read your mind, brew glory AND stopper death.
And he’s not even the main character either. J.K. Rowling puts more effort into each of her supporting characters than SMeyer puts into Edward and Bella combined.
*Hugs you* You’re my hero.
Thank you ❤
Okay, to be honest, I have NO idea why I’m even dignifying this response, but I’ve finished my homework, and thought that this would be a fun way to spend my time. So here it goes:
…Have you even read either of these books? Because I’m pretty sure you just read the Spark notes or listened to the opinion of another “Twihard” on the matter.
The article basically starts out with the quote: “Twilight is a timeless tale of love…” blah, blah, blah. (If you’re reading this, I’m assuming you’ve read the article.) Twilight is a tale of creepy obsession, pedophilia, necrophilia, bestiality, and teen pregnancy, to name a few of the themes. There was no love lost, only mindless doting and misguided attempts at acting “for the greater good.” It is a story of teenage angst and lust, with an expiration date that matches the day that the last movie leaves theaters.
On top of that, the idea that Twilight is being interpreted as a BETTER example of love than Harry Potter shocks me. Did you not read the series? Because if you did, SURELY you picked up on the fact that the deciding factor in any situation was love. It was LOVE that saved Harry as a baby, LOVE that was the one force that could keep evil at bay (Voldemort/Quirrel), LOVE that kept a good man from turning to absolute evil (Snape), and LOVE that in the end won the war between good and evil. To be quite honest, if you read the books and didn’t pick up on that, I’m not sure there’s much hope for you anyway, because it is explicitly mentioned on several occasions. In fact, I’ll quote Dumbledore on this one: “Do not pity the dead, Harry. Pity the living, and, above all, those who live without love.” And again, “If there is one thing Voldemort cannot understand, it is love…. to have been loved so deeply, even though the person who loved us is gone, will give us some protection forever. It was agony to touch a person marked by something so good.” And yet AGAIN: “You think the dead we loved ever truly leave us? You think we don’t recall them more clearly than ever in times of great trouble? Your father is alive in you, Harry….” “In the end, it mattered not that you could not close your mind. It was your heart that saved you.” Romantic (and I shudder to use the word in the context of Twilight) and physical love, contrary to the beliefs promoted by Twilight, are not the only kindk of love that exist, and is by no stretch of the imagination are they the most important. Twilight puts a large emphasis on the importance of physical relationships, and the power of SEX. Chew on this: A man who has been dead for 100-something years, and whose body and heart are essentially frozen/dead can 1) have sex and 2) make a baby. Really? His heart doesn’t work, but his balls do? Convenient, that.
Harry Potter teaches us of the importance of friendship, unity, and love that transcend even death. “Difference of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open.” Another quote from Dumbledore. You want to talk about sweet things people do for love? Bella attempted (ATTEMPTED!) suicide so that she could hear her boyfriend speak to her. Bella took a plane and a Porsche to Italy to save that same boyfriend. Lily Potter died to save her son’s life. Harry sacrificed his life to destroy Voldemort and save the lives of countless others. If that’s not an example of the “sweet” things people do for love, I’m not sure what is.
On the topic of Twilight being creative:
Creative. CREATIVE?! I WISH you could hear the pitch at which I am mentally screaming at you right now. JK Rowling created a WORLD! Heroes and villains and everything! She even wrote extra books (The Tales of Beedle the Bard, Quidditch Through the Ages, Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, etc.) as CONTEXT. She has fueled the imaginations of COUNTLESS people, and inspired so many. Stephanie Meyer put an angsty teenager (yawn) into our everyday world, and incorporated a few beasts that she bastardized from legends that have been around for CENTURIES. When was the last time YOU heard of a kappa, a grindylow, or a hinkypunk? PLEASE. And speaking of Stephenie Meyer and her glampires….
Vampires: Look it up. A vampire is the shell of a human filled with a demonic energy that feeds off of the blood of humans, soulless, mindless, and murderous. The have no conscience, no concept of right and wrong. Vampires are creepy by definition. What Stephenie Meyer created is an idealistic, bastardized version of a legend that has been around for centuries. Call it what you’d like, but as far as I’m concerned, the Cullens are as far from vampires as they come. And you know what? If you’d like me to point you toward hot vampires that actually qualify for the term “vampire,” come talk to me. I can point you toward quite a few that show up in perfectly respectable pieces of vampire-centric lore. And THIRDLY: They sparkle. They SPARKLE! Honestly, go to the store and buy your man some body glitter. Vampires are not supposed to sparkle in the sun, they’re supposed to burn! What Twilight has created is a bunch of indestructible, irresistible statues; perfect creatures that might have been sent from heaven itself except for the fact that, oh wait, they drink blood. And in the case of the Cullens, they don’t even do that. So… angels. Stephenie Meyer has turned the term vampire from feared creature of the night into the laughing stock of the fictional character community. And the laughing stock of the real world, to be honest. The fact that vampires are now associated with the teenage girl fandom is EMBARASSING. Think about it.
Werewolves: Another creature that is centuries old and has been completely twisted by Twilight. A werewolf by definition is a “’full-moon-flesh-eater’ type.” Take away the full moon and the flesh eating you’re left with… a wolf. Or a man, depending on which way you slice it. Either way, THAT’S NOT A WEREWOLF. And to be honest once again? JKR had the idea for people who could turn into animals first, so Stephenie Meyer can’t even claim originality on it. I’m assuming (since you claim to have read the Harry Potter books) that you have heard of an animagus? If you haven’t, Google it. Because I’m pretty sure that one of the definitions you will find will be “Jacob Black.”
Sidenote: Can we concentrate on the fact that your beloved Robert Pattinson himself does not find the Twilight books particularly interesting? The cast of Harry Potter CRIED when they had to leave the set for the final time.
“Harry Potter is a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters, and has no plot. TWILIGHT 4 EVER!”
1) Crazy ideas
• Vampires with a conscience
• A 100-something year old man falling in love with an 18 year old whom, by all laws of fiction, he should want to kill and eat on the spot. But NO, he fights the urge because a) he doesn’t kill people any more, b) she smells super good.
• Werewolves WHO ARE ACTUALLY GOOD GUYS, and who can control themselves
• Necrophilia, bestiality, pedophilia
• There are more, but I’m getting to those 😉
2) Bizarre things
• Sparkly vampires with a conscience
• People who can turn into wolves
• Dead men making children
3) Freaky characters
• 100+ year old pedophile vampire
o moody, melodramatic, self-loathing, sneaks into her bedroom to watch her while she sleeps, etc.
• The Volturi: Jane. Need I say more? In case the answer is yes: SHE INFLICTS PAIN WITH HER MIND. Sadist. As are the other Volturi. Sadists.
• Bella: very CLEARLY a troubled teen. Obsessive, manic-depressive, etc.
• James: Murderer. Sadist. Films himself harming Bella so that he can rub it in her boyfriend’s face. Her BOYFRIEND, who wants to eat her JUST AS MUCH as James does.
• Victoria: Obsessive stalker, Revenge-driven murderer, started an ARMY because she lost her boyfriend
• Come on.
4) TWILIGHT 4 EVER
• …Credibility = gone. Sorry.
5) Your grammar is, once again, off. “…and has no plot” should be something more like “a general lack of plot,” or something like that. It MUST be a noun. It’s called Parallelism. I sincerely wish you good luck with the SAT.
Things Harry Potter teaches you:
• It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.
o …They were adults. At least by wizarding standards. They were 17.
o They weren’t hunting him! They were actually expressly avoiding him. They were simply finding ways to prepare the world for the final battle. SAVING THE WORLD, just in case that went over your head.
o Twilight: It’s ok to skip college because your boyfriend proposed. Who needs an education when you can live FOREVER?
• Violence is totally cool.
o Harry point-blank refuses to use violence to save his own life. Examples listed below:
• Goblet of Fire: Harry uses Expelliarmus when fighting the most powerful dark wizard in history. Expelliarmus is a DISARMING charm.
• Deathly Hallows: Harry refuses to use any spell that will harm or kill Stan Shunpike (who has been Imperiused), who is trying to KILL him, because he doesn’t know what he’s doing.
• Deathly Hallows: In the FINAL BATTLE, Harry uses Expelliarmus once again, instead of using any kind of offensive spell, even though he is once again facing VOLDEMORT.
• Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.
o DUMBLEDORE QUOTES TIME:
• “…to the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.”
• “You think the dead we love ever truly leave us? You think we don’t recall them more clearly than ever in times of great trouble? Your father is alive in you, Harry…”
• “…your failure to understand that there are things much worse than death has always been your greatest weakness…”
• “It is the unknown we fear when we look upon death and darkness, nothing more.”
o In fact, what Harry Potter does is NOT to downplay the importance or gravity of death, but rather to teach us not to look on it as something to be afraid of, but rather as an extension of life. It teaches us not to fear death, but to accept it as a natural part of life.
o Argument: Twilight, if anything, teaches us that death is “no big deal.”
Point1: Bella spends 3.5 books BEGGING Edward to turn her into a vampire. What is a vampire? A dead body with a demon’s conscience. Not only does Twilight teach us that death is “no big deal,” but it teaches us that death is something to be desired.
Point2: Bella jumps off of a cliff to hear her boyfriend’s voice speak in her schizophrenic mind.
• Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.
o The period goes inside the quotation marks
o Should I even begin to go into how offensive this statement is? I think not.
o Ron and Hermione, to be perfectly truthful, DON’T get it. They each grew up with two parents who loved them. Harry grew up in a house where he was CONSTANTLY abused and mistreated by people who called themselves his “family.” And when he finally got to leave that family? He came to Hogwarts, where he had to fight for his right to live EVERY YEAR. I’m pretty sure that you too would have some pent-up bitterness if that had been your life. But, obviously, it isn’t. So don’t act like you understand either.
• It’s okay to escape from jail.
o I’m pretty sure only the Death Eaters escaped from jail. Oh, and Sirius, who was INNOCENT.
• Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!
o I’m going to ask a question. Where do you live? Because wherever it is, I’m pretty sure they’ve had a major revolution at some point or another. Example: THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. I don’t know if that’s where YOU live (although if I had to guess, that would be my first thought), but just… think about it, ok? Brush up on some good old American history. Then rethink this statement.
o Second point: THE GOVERNMENT HAD BEEN OVERRUN BY MURDEROUS FREAKS! Voldemort had placed his agents in the government, and that same government, corrupt as it was, was doing NOTHING to stop him.
• It’s okay to break the rules.
o I’m not exactly sure to which incident you are referring, but in Harry Potter the good guys only broke rules in situations where peoples LIVES were ate stake. Their rule breaking wasn’t just random mischief that they did for kicks. It was done with the safety of others and the eradication of evil in mind.
o What it seems to me that you are trying to say here is this: It’s okay to stand idly by and watch the ones you love die for you. Because I’m pretty sure that’s the opposite of this statement, given the context. And it’s also what Bella did on more than one occasion. (Twilight, Eclipse, etc.)
• It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.
o PEOPLE WERE DYING! THE SO-CALLED AUTHORITY FIGURES WEREN’T GETTING IT! WHAT WOULD YOU DO?!
o On the other hand, there’s Bella, who screams at her father because she needs to get out of the house, who openly defies the instructions of teachers on MULTIPLE occasions, who disrespects everything her father and mother have been trying to teach them her whole life and marries her boyfriend straight out of high school because she’s in lust with him.
o I have no more to say on this one.
“And seriously, the books are also all depressing….”
Sweetheart, in real life, not everybody gets to live happily ever after. In a war, good people die. It is the price people pay for doing what is right. In Twilight, SMeyer doesn’t have a firm enough grip on reality to realize that in a fight like the one they fought in Twilight, there is no WAY that there were no casualties. Life doesn’t end happily ever after; it’s not a fairy tale. It’s life. Death is inevitable. ESPECIALLY in a war! I hate to be the one to tell you that life isn’t full of candy canes, gumdrops, and beautiful butterflies that poop sparkles. It’s rough and doesn’t always turn out the way you want it to. JKR was GENIUS in the way she wrapped up the series. I’m sorry that in Twilight, only the bad guys meet an untimely end, but that is not the way it happens in real life.
“…they’re just full of violence, and ridiculous plans.”
First of all, you don’t need a comma there. Secondly, There is a TON of pointless violence in Twilight. The battle with Victoria? The fight with James in the ballet studio? POINTLESS. And the ridiculous plans. They pitted seven vampires and something like ten werewolves against an ARMY of vampires. And PLEASE someone explain to me how the plan to avoid James made ANY sense at all, because in my mind it was completely irrational and illogical.
“Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible….”
Really? You’re arguing the improbability of MAGIC?!
1) Stop reading fantasy. Why don’t you try historical fiction? Or a textbook! That’s some very probable stuff.
2) EDWARD IS A VAMPIRE?! I’m starting to get the impression that you’ve convinced yourself that Twilight is actually a true story, and glampires like the Cullens and animagi like the Quileutes actually exist. Again, hate to break it to you, but its just a story. None of it is real, or could ever BE real. The “werewolves” communicate telepathically! If a real man tried jumping between trees with his girlfriend on his back, they’d both die. If you pitted seven people against and army of hundreds, people would die and there would be blood. If a speeding truck hit a man, he would be squished like a bug and the truck would come off without a scractch, much less a dent in the side. If you tried to suck face with a (real) vampire, he’d eat your face off. NOTHING IN TWILIGHT IS “realistic and likely to happen.” I’m SO sorry.
The fact is, actually, that Harry Potter is the more realistic of the two. JKR made it so that if we wish to believe that it’s really real, we can, because there are all sorts of precautions against Muggles coming too close to the wizarding world. This is one of many reasons why so many people love the Harry Potter books – they allows for something to believe. I know personally that that idea has helped me, and quite a few people I know through rough times. I might cry if I found out that the Cullens were real.
Also, Twilight has:
• Robert Pattinson, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!
o …This has nothing to do with the Twilight story.
o Again, go buy your boyfriend some body glitter. I know where you can get it really cheap.
o Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I personally know several people (including myself) who think that the only time that RPatts was attractive was when he played Cedric Diggory in the Harry Potter movies.
o We had him first.
• Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?
o Again… this has nothing to do with Twilight. He’s a castmember.
• Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.
o Personally, it is a strain for me to watch her try to do something with the complete lack of personality that is Bella Swan. I will not deny that Kristen Stewart is talented, as I have seen her do pretty well IN OTHER MOVIES. There is simply not enough character in Bella to fill a thimble, so I admire Kristen’s effort.
o But once again, this has NOTHING to do with the Twilight story.
• The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters.
o Finally we get to something that was mentioned in the books, however:
o The Volturi ARE insane freaks in cloaks! AND they feed off of the blood of TOURISTS! At least Voldemort and his followers are (more or less) human!
o I’m not sure if you’re aware of this, but Harry Potter is widely interpreted (and correctly so, according to JKR) as a metaphor for fascism and WWII. In case I’m mistaken (and correct me if I’m wrong) Hitler (Voldemort) and the Nazis (Death Eaters) were real. I’m not too sure… I could be completely mistaken, but I THINK Hitler existed. Maybe.
• PS – that was SO full of sarcasm, but if you didn’t get my point: HITLER WAS REAL. The pure-blood supremacy ideal and the Death Eater followers are a metaphor for a DISASTER that actually happened. This fact, more than anything else, makes Harry Potter more realistic than Twilight, which is a metaphor for… what, now? The flaws in the tourism industry in Italy? Hmm….
• 75% of these pro-Twilight points were about the actors, who have NOTHING to do with the storyline of Twilight. If you can point out to me ONE, GOOD, ORIGINAL PLOT POINT from Twilight to put into this section, I might commend you on that. Obviously you have nothing.
• Don’t even get me started listing the general hotness of the actors in Harry Potter, not to mention the number of fictional, realistic characters from the books that fans have fallen in love with JUST AS MUCH as you have fallen in love with your completely unrealistic, perfect Edward and his opposite (to appeal to the different end of the spectrum, I suppose), though equally idealistic, perfect, unrealistic character, Jacob.
Harry potter isn’t all bad, I mean, they DO have:
• Robert Pattinson as Cedric Diggory. The ONE thing the producers got right! Don’t even try to deny you don’t rewind just to watch his scenes again!
o WE HAD HIM FIRST. The ONLY role in which I thought he was actually cute. Before he was Edward, and his creepy stalker behavior COMPLETELY turned me off him.
o The ONE the thing the producers got right!? I could write a book on the things the producers did successfully with those movies!
o Ok, I won’t deny it. I don’t rewind those scenes. Check your double negatives, honey, because there’s a slight mistake in what you’re trying to say there.
• Lucius Malfoy. He’s hot, even for an older guy!
o Your taste in men terrifies me.
o I could list SO many hot actors from Harry Potter, it would make your TWO run and hide.
QUALITY LITERATURE AND MOVIES?! LITERARY BRILLIANCE?!
I’m assuming also you place Go, Dog, Go! and The Very Hungry Caterpillar under the same heading? Because I’ve read fan fiction written by ten year olds that reads better than the Twilight novels.
Don’t believe me about Stephenie Meyer’s writing? Check out this blog: http://reasoningwithvampires.tumblr.com/
I’m sorry, but I maintain that STEPHENIE MEYER CAN’T WRITE FOR BEANS. Just saying. On the other hand, JK Rowling’s plotlines, subplots, character development, continuity, creativity, and just plain writing style are nothing short of genius.
As to the longevity of the Harry Potter books, the amount to which they have been dissected and analyzed, memorialized, and idealized shows that they will be around for a LONG time. Harry Potter fans are proud to say that we value the books over the movies, which is SO much more than the Twilight fans can say. We value Harry Potter for the literature, not the superficial ideas of outer beauty and immortal life (which, as Dumbledore says, is one of those things that humans choose that is precisely what is wrong for them [Sorcerer’s Stone]) that Twilight sadly emphasizes so strongly. Twilight has all the literary depth of an empty kiddie pool, and will therefore fade as soon as the last movie leaves theaters, and if not then, then as soon as the actors grow up and stop being so appealing to fanatic teenage fans who have dubbed themselves “Twihards.” The fact that Twilight is nothing more than the sum of the hotness factor of the actors should SAY something about the significance of the books themselves, even to the most hardcore of hardcore fans. HARRY POTTER, rather than Twilight, is a true piece of literary genius, and I know that, as it is a lasting masterpiece, it will be around for a long, LONG time to come.
Twilight is a book about lust, teen pregnancy, necrophilia, bestiality, pedophilia, and a whole lot of other things that I pray the new generation of children doesn’t pick up on. There is nothing in those books that I wish for kids to be inspired by, or that I wish for them to learn from. I am also sure that the Twilight fad will fade just as soon as they are finished with the last movie.
I don’t know about you, but I grew up on Harry Potter. It was a huge part of my childhood, and it has helped to shape a lot of the person who I am today, and it has taught me valuable life lessons that I will use forever. It is a book that inspires people to be better, to value bravery and friendship, to never underestimate the value of love, and to always do what is right, even though, as the books say, what is right is not always easy.
I’m sorry this response is so long. It was much longer before, but I did edit it down quite a bit. If you’re interested, which I’m sure you are not, there is much more I can say on the subject.
I hope you come to your senses.
xDracoDormiensx
PS – If you are planning on taking and achieving an acceptable score on the SAT, I suggest you hire a grammar coach. Sorry. x
Oh, and on top of everything I posted above, wanna know how SMeyer came up with the idea for Twilight? She fell asleep watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer and had a dream. So she can’t even claim originality for vampires (and I use the term loosely) with souls, and werewolves who are actually decent people.
Look it up.
you wanted someone to refute every point… here you go.
*shrugs*
Alright guys, while I agree wholeheartedly that this girl needs serious help. I don’t think telling her to commit suicide is very nice. With all the recent suicides over stuff that happened on the internet, stuff like that should stop being said. =/
Instead of attacking her, we should stop paying attention to her. =/
We should pity her..she does not know the joys of Harry Potter..
Would be actually funny if the trolling wasn´t so obvious gurl…
anyway,i am glad you appreciate the hotness that is Lucius.
Teenage lust. You’d be able to tell the difference if you we’re such a silly litle girl.
for your information, i happen to LOVE harry potter. it has the BEST plot in the history of all plots, and has changed my life. I still have dreams of living at Hogwarts. Harry is NOT teaching you to break out of jail: but that if you are not guilty at all, then it’s kind of fair. While Twilight ls one of my FAVORITE books, i believe that Harry Potter is much better. Don’t get angry, I LOVE TWILIGHT. but i love Harry potter just a tad more. I am not mad that you perfer twilight: everyone has there own opinion. Please respect mine as i respect yours.
*Before I start, because tumblr doesn’t understand my bullet point format:
· = the main bullet
o = a subpoint under that bullet
§ = a sub-subpoint under the subpoint bullet
Hope that clears things up when you’re reading this 😀
Okay, to be honest, I have NO idea why I’m even dignifying this with a response, but I’ve finished my homework, and thought that this would be a fun way to spend my time. So here it goes:
…Have you even read either of these books? Because I’m pretty sure you just read the Spark notes or listened to the opinion of another “Twihard” on the matter.
The article basically starts out with the quote: “Twilight is a timeless tale of love…” blah, blah, blah. (If you’re reading this, I’m assuming you’ve read the article.) Twilight is a tale of creepy obsession, pedophilia, necrophilia, bestiality, and teen pregnancy, to name a few of the themes. There was no love lost, only mindless doting and misguided attempts at acting “for the greater good.” It is a story of teenage angst and lust, with an expiration date that matches the day that the last movie leaves theaters.
On top of that, the idea that Twilight is being interpreted as a BETTER example of love than Harry Potter shocks me. Did you not read the series? Because if you did, SURELY you picked up on the fact that the deciding factor in any situation was love. It was LOVE that saved Harry as a baby, LOVE that was the one force that could keep evil at bay (Voldemort/Quirrel), LOVE that kept a good man from turning to absolute evil (Snape), and LOVE that in the end won the war between good and evil. To be quite honest, if you read the books and didn’t pick up on that, I’m not sure there’s much hope for you anyway, because it is explicitly mentioned on several occasions. In fact, I’ll quote Dumbledore on this one: “Do not pity the dead, Harry. Pity the living, and, above all, those who live without love.” And again, “If there is one thing Voldemort cannot understand, it is love…. to have been loved so deeply, even though the person who loved us is gone, will give us some protection forever. It was agony to touch a person marked by something so good.” And yet AGAIN: “You think the dead we loved ever truly leave us? You think we don’t recall them more clearly than ever in times of great trouble? Your father is alive in you, Harry….” “In the end, it mattered not that you could not close your mind. It was your heart that saved you.” Romantic (and I shudder to use the word in the context of Twilight) and physical love, contrary to the beliefs promoted by Twilight, are not the only kindk of love that exist, and is by no stretch of the imagination are they the most important. Twilight puts a large emphasis on the importance of physical relationships, and the power of SEX. Chew on this: A man who has been dead for 100-something years, and whose body and heart are essentially frozen/dead can 1) have sex and 2) make a baby. Really? His heart doesn’t work, but his balls do? Convenient, that.
Harry Potter teaches us of the importance of friendship, unity, and love that transcend even death. “Difference of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open.” Another quote from Dumbledore. You want to talk about sweet things people do for love? Bella attempted (ATTEMPTED!) suicide so that she could hear her boyfriend speak to her. Bella took a plane and a Porsche to Italy to save that same boyfriend. Lily Potter died to save her son’s life. Harry sacrificed his life to destroy Voldemort and save the lives of countless others. If that’s not an example of the “sweet” things people do for love, I’m not sure what is.
On the topic of Twilight being creative:
Creative. CREATIVE?! I WISH you could hear the pitch at which I am mentally screaming at you right now. JK Rowling created a WORLD! Heroes and villains and everything! She even wrote extra books (The Tales of Beedle the Bard, Quidditch Through the Ages, Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, etc.) as CONTEXT. She has fueled the imaginations of COUNTLESS people, and inspired so many. Stephanie Meyer put an angsty teenager (yawn) into our everyday world, and incorporated a few beasts that she bastardized from legends that have been around for CENTURIES. When was the last time YOU heard of a kappa, a grindylow, or a hinkypunk? PLEASE. And speaking of Stephenie Meyer and her glampires….
Vampires: Look it up. A vampire is the shell of a human filled with a demonic energy that feeds off of the blood of humans, soulless, mindless, and murderous. The have no conscience, no concept of right and wrong. Vampires are creepy by definition. What Stephenie Meyer created is an idealistic, bastardized version of a legend that has been around for centuries. Call it what you’d like, but as far as I’m concerned, the Cullens are as far from vampires as they come. And you know what? If you’d like me to point you toward hot vampires that actually qualify for the term “vampire,” come talk to me. I can point you toward quite a few that show up in perfectly respectable pieces of vampire-centric lore. And THIRDLY: They sparkle. They SPARKLE! Honestly, go to the store and buy your man some body glitter. Vampires are not supposed to sparkle in the sun, they’re supposed to burn! What Twilight has created is a bunch of indestructible, irresistible statues; perfect creatures that might have been sent from heaven itself except for the fact that, oh wait, they drink blood. And in the case of the Cullens, they don’t even do that. So… angels. Stephenie Meyer has turned the term vampire from feared creature of the night into the laughing stock of the fictional character community. And the laughing stock of the real world, to be honest. The fact that vampires are now associated with the teenage girl fandom is EMBARASSING. Think about it.
Werewolves: Another creature that is centuries old and has been completely twisted by Twilight. A werewolf by definition is a “’full-moon-flesh-eater’ type.” Take away the full moon and the flesh eating you’re left with… a wolf. Or a man, depending on which way you slice it. Either way, THAT’S NOT A WEREWOLF. And to be honest once again? JKR had the idea for people who could turn into animals first, so Stephenie Meyer can’t even claim originality on it. I’m assuming (since you claim to have read the Harry Potter books) that you have heard of an animagus? If you haven’t, Google it. Because I’m pretty sure that one of the definitions you will find will be “Jacob Black.”
Sidenote: Can we concentrate on the fact that your beloved Robert Pattinson himself does not find the Twilight books particularly interesting? The cast of Harry Potter CRIED when they had to leave the set for the final time.
“Harry Potter is a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters, and has no plot. TWILIGHT 4 EVER!”
1) Crazy ideas
· Vampires with a conscience
o A 100-something year old man falling in love with an 18 year old whom, by all laws of fiction, he should want to kill and eat on the spot. But NO, he fights the urge because a) he doesn’t kill people any more, b) she smells super good.
· Werewolves WHO ARE ACTUALLY GOOD GUYS, and who can control themselves
· Necrophilia, bestiality, pedophilia
· There are more, but I’m getting to those 😉
2) Bizarre things
· Sparkly vampires with a conscience
· People who can turn into wolves
· Dead men making children
3) Freaky characters
· 100+ year old pedophile vampire
o moody, melodramatic, self-loathing, sneaks into her bedroom to watch her while she sleeps, etc.
· The Volturi: Jane. Need I say more? In case the answer is yes: SHE INFLICTS PAIN WITH HER MIND. Sadist. As are the other Volturi. Sadists.
· Bella: very CLEARLY a troubled teen. Obsessive, manic-depressive, etc.
· James: Murderer. Sadist. Films himself harming Bella so that he can rub it in her boyfriend’s face. Her BOYFRIEND, who wants to eat her JUST AS MUCH as James does.
· Victoria: Obsessive stalker, Revenge-driven murderer, started an ARMY because she lost her boyfriend
· Come on.
4) TWILIGHT 4 EVER
· …Credibility = gone. Sorry.
5) Your grammar is, once again, off. “…and has no plot” should be something more like “a general lack of plot,” or something like that. It MUST be a noun. It’s called Parallelism. Look it up.
Things Harry Potter teaches you:
· It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.
o …They were adults. At least by wizarding standards. They were 17.
o They weren’t hunting him! They were actually expressly avoiding him. They were simply finding ways to prepare the world for the final battle. SAVING THE WORLD, just in case that went over your head.
o Twilight: It’s ok to skip college because your boyfriend proposed. Who needs an education when you can live FOREVER with your creeper boyfriend?
· Violence is totally cool.
o Harry point-blank refuses to use violence to save his own life. Examples listed below:
§ Goblet of Fire: Harry uses Expelliarmus when fighting the most powerful dark wizard in history. Expelliarmus is a DISARMING charm.
§ Deathly Hallows: Harry refuses to use any spell that will harm or kill Stan Shunpike (who has been Imperiused), who is trying to KILL him, because he doesn’t know what he’s doing.
§ Deathly Hallows: In the FINAL BATTLE, Harry uses Expelliarmus once again, instead of using any kind of offensive spell, even though he is once again facing VOLDEMORT.
· Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.
o DUMBLEDORE QUOTES TIME:
§ “…to the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.”
§ “You think the dead we love ever truly leave us? You think we don’t recall them more clearly than ever in times of great trouble? Your father is alive in you, Harry…”
§ “…your failure to understand that there are things much worse than death has always been your greatest weakness…”
§ “It is the unknown we fear when we look upon death and darkness, nothing more.”
o In fact, what Harry Potter does is NOT to downplay the importance or gravity of death, but rather to teach us not to look on it as something to be afraid of, but rather as an extension of life. It teaches us not to fear death, but to accept it as a natural part of life.
o Argument: Twilight, if anything, teaches us that death is “no big deal.”
Point1: Bella spends 3.5 books BEGGING Edward to turn her into a vampire. What is a vampire? A dead body with a demon’s conscience. Not only does Twilight teach us that death is “no big deal,” but it teaches us that death is something to be desired.
Point2: Bella jumps off of a cliff to hear her boyfriend’s voice speak in her schizophrenic mind.
· Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.
o The period goes inside the quotation marks
o Should I even begin to go into how offensive this statement is? I think not.
o Ron and Hermione, to be perfectly truthful, DON’T get it. They each grew up with two parents who loved them. Harry grew up in a house where he was CONSTANTLY abused and mistreated by people who called themselves his “family.” And when he finally got to leave that family? He came to Hogwarts, where he had to fight for his right to live EVERY YEAR. I’m pretty sure that you too would have some pent-up bitterness if that had been your life. But, obviously, it isn’t. So don’t act like you understand either.
· It’s okay to escape from jail.
o I’m pretty sure only the Death Eaters escaped from jail. Oh, and Sirius, who was INNOCENT.
· Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!
o I’m going to ask a question. Where do you live? Because wherever it is, I’m pretty sure they’ve had a major revolution at some point or another, that has led them to a better place. Example: THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. I don’t know if that’s where YOU live (although if I had to guess, that would be my first thought), but just… think about it, ok? Brush up on some good old American history. Then rethink this statement.
o Second point: THE GOVERNMENT HAD BEEN OVERRUN BY MURDEROUS FREAKS! Voldemort had placed his agents in the government, and that same government, corrupt as it was, was doing NOTHING to stop him.
· It’s okay to break the rules.
o I’m not exactly sure to which incident you are referring, but in Harry Potter the good guys only broke rules in situations where peoples LIVES were ate stake. Their rule breaking wasn’t just random mischief that they did for kicks. It was done with the safety of others and the eradication of evil in mind.
o What it seems to me that you are trying to say here is this: It’s okay to stand idly by and watch the ones you love die for you. Because I’m pretty sure that’s the opposite of this statement, given the context. And it’s also what Bella did on more than one occasion. (Twilight, Eclipse, etc.)
· It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.
o PEOPLE WERE DYING! THE SO-CALLED AUTHORITY FIGURES WEREN’T GETTING IT! WHAT WOULD YOU DO?!
o On the other hand, there’s Bella, who screams at her father because she needs to get out of the house, who openly defies the instructions of teachers on MULTIPLE occasions, who disrespects everything her father and mother have been trying to teach them her whole life and marries her boyfriend straight out of high school because she’s in lust with him.
“And seriously, the books are also all depressing….”
Sweetheart, in real life, not everybody gets to live happily ever after. In a war, good people die. It is the price people pay for doing what is right. In Twilight, SMeyer doesn’t have a firm enough grip on reality to realize that in a fight like the one they fought in Twilight, there is no WAY that there were no casualties. Life doesn’t end happily ever after; it’s not a fairy tale. It’s life. Death is inevitable. ESPECIALLY in a war! I hate to be the one to tell you that life isn’t full of candy canes, gumdrops, and beautiful butterflies that poop sparkles. It’s rough and doesn’t always turn out the way you want it to. JKR was GENIUS in the way she wrapped up the series. I’m sorry that in Twilight, only the bad guys meet an untimely end, but that is not the way it happens in real life.
“…they’re just full of violence, and ridiculous plans.”
First of all, you don’t need a comma there. Secondly, There is a TON of pointless violence in Twilight. The battle with Victoria? The fight with James in the ballet studio? POINTLESS. And the ridiculous plans. They pitted seven vampires and something like ten werewolves against an ARMY of vampires. And PLEASE someone explain to me how the plan to avoid James made ANY sense at all, because in my mind it was completely irrational and illogical.
“Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible….”
Really? You’re arguing the improbability of MAGIC?!
1) Stop reading fantasy. Why don’t you try historical fiction? Or a textbook! That’s some very probable stuff.
2) EDWARD IS A VAMPIRE?! I’m starting to get the impression that you’ve convinced yourself that Twilight is actually a true story, and glampires like the Cullens and animagi like the Quileutes actually exist. Again, hate to break it to you, but its just a story. None of it is real, or could ever BE real. The “werewolves” communicate telepathically! If a real man tried jumping between trees with his girlfriend on his back, they’d both die. If you pitted seven people against and army of hundreds, people would die and there would be blood. If a speeding truck hit a man, he would be squished like a bug and the truck would come off without a scractch, much less a dent in the side. If you tried to suck face with a (real) vampire, he’d eat your face off. NOTHING IN TWILIGHT IS “realistic and likely to happen.” I’m SO sorry.
The fact is, actually, that Harry Potter is the more realistic of the two. JKR made it so that if we wish to believe that it’s really real, we can, because there are all sorts of precautions against Muggles coming too close to the wizarding world. This is one of many reasons why so many people love the Harry Potter books – they allows for something to believe. I know personally that that idea has helped me, and quite a few people I know through rough times. I might cry if I found out that the Cullens were real.
Also, Twilight has:
· Robert Pattinson, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!
o …This has nothing to do with the Twilight story.
o Again, go buy your boyfriend some body glitter. I know where you can get some really cheap.
o Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I personally know several people (including myself) who think that the ONLY time that RPatts was attractive was when he played Cedric Diggory in the Harry Potter movies.
o We had him first.
· Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?
o Again… this has nothing to do with Twilight. He’s a cast member.
· Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.
o Personally, it is a strain for me to watch her try to do something with the complete lack of personality that is Bella Swan. I will not deny that Kristen Stewart is talented, as I have seen her do pretty well IN OTHER MOVIES. There is simply not enough character in Bella to fill a thimble, so I admire Kristen’s effort.
o But once again, this has NOTHING to do with the Twilight story.
· The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters.
o Finally we get to something that was mentioned in the books, however:
o The Volturi ARE insane freaks in cloaks! AND they feed off of the blood of TOURISTS! At least Voldemort and his followers are (more or less) human!
o I’m not sure if you’re aware of this, but Harry Potter is widely interpreted (and correctly so, according to JKR) as a metaphor for fascism and WWII. In case I’m mistaken (and correct me if I’m wrong) Hitler (Voldemort) and the Nazis (Death Eaters) were real. I’m not too sure… I could be completely mistaken, but I THINK Hitler existed. Maybe.
§ PS – that was SO full of sarcasm, but if you didn’t get my point: HITLER WAS REAL. The pure-blood supremacy ideal and the Death Eater followers are a metaphor for a DISASTER that actually happened. This fact, more than anything else, makes Harry Potter more realistic than Twilight, which is a metaphor for… what, now? The flaws in the tourism industry in Italy? Hmm….
· 75% of these pro-Twilight points were about the actors, who have NOTHING to do with the storyline of Twilight. If you can point out to me ONE, GOOD, ORIGINAL PLOT POINT from Twilight to put into this section, I might commend you on that. Obviously you have nothing.
· Don’t even get me started listing the general hotness of the actors in Harry Potter, not to mention the number of fictional, realistic characters from the books that fans have fallen in love with JUST AS MUCH as you have fallen in love with your completely unrealistic, perfect Edward and his opposite (to appeal to the different end of the spectrum, I suppose), though equally idealistic, perfect, unrealistic character, Jacob.
Harry potter isn’t all bad, I mean, they DO have:
· Robert Pattinson as Cedric Diggory. The ONE thing the producers got right! Don’t even try to deny you don’t rewind just to watch his scenes again!
o WE HAD HIM FIRST. The ONLY role in which I thought he was actually cute. Before he was Edward, and his creepy stalker behavior COMPLETELY turned me off of him.
o The ONE the thing the producers got right!? I could write a book on the things the producers did successfully with those movies!
o Ok, I won’t deny it. I don’t rewind those scenes. Check your double negatives, honey, because there’s a slight mistake in what you’re trying to say there.
· Lucius Malfoy. He’s hot, even for an older guy!
o Your taste in men terrifies me.
o I could list SO many hot actors from Harry Potter, it would make your TWO run and hide.
QUALITY LITERATURE AND MOVIES?! LITERARY BRILLIANCE?!
I’m assuming also you place Go, Dog, Go! and The Very Hungry Caterpillar under the same heading? Because I’ve read fan fiction written by ten year olds that reads better than the Twilight novels.
Don’t believe me about Stephenie Meyer’s writing? Check out this blog: http://reasoningwithvampires.tumblr.com/
I’m sorry, but I maintain that STEPHENIE MEYER CAN’T WRITE FOR BEANS. Just saying. On the other hand, JK Rowling’s plotlines, subplots, character development, continuity, creativity, and just plain writing style are nothing short of genius.
As to the longevity of the Harry Potter books, the amount to which they have been dissected and analyzed, memorialized, and idealized shows that they will be around for a LONG time. Harry Potter fans are proud to say that we value the books over the movies, which is SO much more than the Twilight fans can say. We value Harry Potter for the literature, not the superficial ideas of outer beauty and immortal life (which, as Dumbledore says, is one of those things that humans choose that is precisely what is wrong for them [Sorcerer’s Stone]) that Twilight sadly emphasizes so strongly. Twilight has all the literary depth of an empty kiddie pool, and will therefore fade as soon as the last movie leaves theaters, and if not then, then as soon as the actors grow up and stop being so appealing to fanatic teenage fans who have dubbed themselves “Twihards.” The fact that Twilight is nothing more than the sum of the hotness factor of the actors should SAY something about the significance of the books themselves, even to the most hardcore of hardcore fans. HARRY POTTER, rather than Twilight, is a true piece of literary genius, and I know that, as it is a lasting masterpiece, it will be around for a long, LONG time to come.
Twilight is a book about lust, teen pregnancy, necrophilia, bestiality, pedophilia, and a whole lot of other things that I pray the new generation of children doesn’t pick up on. There is nothing in those books that I wish for kids to be inspired by, or that I wish for them to learn from. I am also sure that the Twilight fad will fade just as soon as they are finished with the last movie.
I don’t know about you, but I grew up on Harry Potter. It was a huge part of my childhood, and it has helped to shape a lot of the person who I am today, and it has taught me valuable life lessons that I will use forever. It is a book that inspires people to be better, to value bravery and friendship, to never underestimate the value of love, and to always do what is right, even though, as the books say, what is right is not always easy.
I’m sorry this response is so long. It was much longer before, but I did edit it down quite a bit. If you’re interested, which I’m sure you are not, there is much more I can say on the subject.
I hope you come to your senses.
xDracoDormiensx
PS – If you are planning on taking and achieving an acceptable score on the SAT, I suggest you hire a grammar coach. Sorry. x
OMFG! That was awesome! I want to shake your hand right now. Very, VERY well written.
ummm PreppyGurl, i’m pretty sure she wasn’t talking about what you wrote…
Preppy gurl, she wasnt talking to you, she was refering to xDracoDormiensx, the person who wrote the previous comment.
Thank you 🙂 I’m glad you think so.
😉
Yes, I was referring to xDracoDormiensx’s article. Not the load of total and utter BS that was written above. That was completely witless, inappreciable and completely fallacious. Of course we all know that assumptions are complete fallacies.
But, again great job xDracoDormiensx 🙂
*Before I start, because tumblr doesn’t understand my bullet point format:
· = the main bullet
o = a subpoint under that bullet
§ = a sub-subpoint under the subpoint bullet
Hope that clears things up when you’re reading this 😀
Okay, to be honest, I have NO idea why I’m even dignifying this with a response, but I’ve finished my homework, and thought that this would be a fun way to spend my time. So here it goes:
…Have you even read either of these books? Because I’m pretty sure you just read the Spark notes or listened to the opinion of another “Twihard” on the matter.
The article basically starts out with the quote: “Twilight is a timeless tale of love…” blah, blah, blah. (If you’re reading this, I’m assuming you’ve read the article.) Twilight is a tale of creepy obsession, pedophilia, necrophilia, bestiality, and teen pregnancy, to name a few of the themes. There was no love lost, only mindless doting and misguided attempts at acting “for the greater good.” It is a story of teenage angst and lust, with an expiration date that matches the day that the last movie leaves theaters.
On top of that, the idea that Twilight is being interpreted as a BETTER example of love than Harry Potter shocks me. Did you not read the series? Because if you did, SURELY you picked up on the fact that the deciding factor in any situation was love. It was LOVE that saved Harry as a baby, LOVE that was the one force that could keep evil at bay (Voldemort/Quirrel), LOVE that kept a good man from turning to absolute evil (Snape), and LOVE that in the end won the war between good and evil. To be quite honest, if you read the books and didn’t pick up on that, I’m not sure there’s much hope for you anyway, because it is explicitly mentioned on several occasions. In fact, I’ll quote Dumbledore on this one: “Do not pity the dead, Harry. Pity the living, and, above all, those who live without love.” And again, “If there is one thing Voldemort cannot understand, it is love…. to have been loved so deeply, even though the person who loved us is gone, will give us some protection forever. It was agony to touch a person marked by something so good.” And yet AGAIN: “You think the dead we loved ever truly leave us? You think we don’t recall them more clearly than ever in times of great trouble? Your father is alive in you, Harry….” “In the end, it mattered not that you could not close your mind. It was your heart that saved you.” Romantic (and I shudder to use the word in the context of Twilight) and physical love, contrary to the beliefs promoted by Twilight, are not the only kindk of love that exist, and is by no stretch of the imagination are they the most important. Twilight puts a large emphasis on the importance of physical relationships, and the power of SEX. Chew on this: A man who has been dead for 100-something years, and whose body and heart are essentially frozen/dead can 1) have sex and 2) make a baby. Really? His heart doesn’t work, but his balls do? Convenient, that.
Harry Potter teaches us of the importance of friendship, unity, and love that transcend even death. “Difference of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open.” Another quote from Dumbledore. You want to talk about sweet things people do for love? Bella attempted (ATTEMPTED!) suicide so that she could hear her boyfriend speak to her. Bella took a plane and a Porsche to Italy to save that same boyfriend. Lily Potter died to save her son’s life. Harry sacrificed his life to destroy Voldemort and save the lives of countless others. If that’s not an example of the “sweet” things people do for love, I’m not sure what is.
On the topic of Twilight being creative:
Creative. CREATIVE?! I WISH you could hear the pitch at which I am mentally screaming at you right now. JK Rowling created a WORLD! Heroes and villains and everything! She even wrote extra books (The Tales of Beedle the Bard, Quidditch Through the Ages, Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, etc.) as CONTEXT. She has fueled the imaginations of COUNTLESS people, and inspired so many. Stephanie Meyer put an angsty teenager (yawn) into our everyday world, and incorporated a few beasts that she bastardized from legends that have been around for CENTURIES. When was the last time YOU heard of a kappa, a grindylow, or a hinkypunk? PLEASE. And speaking of Stephenie Meyer and her glampires….
Vampires: Look it up. A vampire is the shell of a human filled with a demonic energy that feeds off of the blood of humans, soulless, mindless, and murderous. The have no conscience, no concept of right and wrong. Vampires are creepy by definition. What Stephenie Meyer created is an idealistic, bastardized version of a legend that has been around for centuries. Call it what you’d like, but as far as I’m concerned, the Cullens are as far from vampires as they come. And you know what? If you’d like me to point you toward hot vampires that actually qualify for the term “vampire,” come talk to me. I can point you toward quite a few that show up in perfectly respectable pieces of vampire-centric lore. And THIRDLY: They sparkle. They SPARKLE! Honestly, go to the store and buy your man some body glitter. Vampires are not supposed to sparkle in the sun, they’re supposed to burn! What Twilight has created is a bunch of indestructible, irresistible statues; perfect creatures that might have been sent from heaven itself except for the fact that, oh wait, they drink blood. And in the case of the Cullens, they don’t even do that. So… angels. Stephenie Meyer has turned the term vampire from feared creature of the night into the laughing stock of the fictional character community. And the laughing stock of the real world, to be honest. The fact that vampires are now associated with the teenage girl fandom is EMBARASSING. Think about it.
Werewolves: Another creature that is centuries old and has been completely twisted by Twilight. A werewolf by definition is a “’full-moon-flesh-eater’ type.” Take away the full moon and the flesh eating you’re left with… a wolf. Or a man, depending on which way you slice it. Either way, THAT’S NOT A WEREWOLF. And to be honest once again? JKR had the idea for people who could turn into animals first, so Stephenie Meyer can’t even claim originality on it. I’m assuming (since you claim to have read the Harry Potter books) that you have heard of an animagus? If you haven’t, Google it. Because I’m pretty sure that one of the definitions you will find will be “Jacob Black.”
Sidenote: Can we concentrate on the fact that your beloved Robert Pattinson himself does not find the Twilight books particularly interesting? The cast of Harry Potter CRIED when they had to leave the set for the final time.
“Harry Potter is a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters, and has no plot. TWILIGHT 4 EVER!”
1) Crazy ideas
· Vampires with a conscience
o A 100-something year old man falling in love with an 18 year old whom, by all laws of fiction, he should want to kill and eat on the spot. But NO, he fights the urge because a) he doesn’t kill people any more, b) she smells super good.
· Werewolves WHO ARE ACTUALLY GOOD GUYS, and who can control themselves
· Necrophilia, bestiality, pedophilia
· There are more, but I’m getting to those 😉
2) Bizarre things
· Sparkly vampires with a conscience
· People who can turn into wolves
· Dead men making children
3) Freaky characters
· 100+ year old pedophile vampire
o moody, melodramatic, self-loathing, sneaks into her bedroom to watch her while she sleeps, etc.
· The Volturi: Jane. Need I say more? In case the answer is yes: SHE INFLICTS PAIN WITH HER MIND. Sadist. As are the other Volturi. Sadists.
· Bella: very CLEARLY a troubled teen. Obsessive, manic-depressive, etc.
· James: Murderer. Sadist. Films himself harming Bella so that he can rub it in her boyfriend’s face. Her BOYFRIEND, who wants to eat her JUST AS MUCH as James does.
· Victoria: Obsessive stalker, Revenge-driven murderer, started an ARMY because she lost her boyfriend
· Come on.
4) TWILIGHT 4 EVER
· …Credibility = gone. Sorry.
5) Your grammar is, once again, off. “…and has no plot” should be something more like “a general lack of plot,” or something like that. It MUST be a noun. It’s called Parallelism. Look it up.
Things Harry Potter teaches you:
· It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.
o …They were adults. At least by wizarding standards. They were 17.
o They weren’t hunting him! They were actually expressly avoiding him. They were simply finding ways to prepare the world for the final battle. SAVING THE WORLD, just in case that went over your head.
o Twilight: It’s ok to skip college because your boyfriend proposed. Who needs an education when you can live FOREVER with your creeper boyfriend?
· Violence is totally cool.
o Harry point-blank refuses to use violence to save his own life. Examples listed below:
§ Goblet of Fire: Harry uses Expelliarmus when fighting the most powerful dark wizard in history. Expelliarmus is a DISARMING charm.
§ Deathly Hallows: Harry refuses to use any spell that will harm or kill Stan Shunpike (who has been Imperiused), who is trying to KILL him, because he doesn’t know what he’s doing.
§ Deathly Hallows: In the FINAL BATTLE, Harry uses Expelliarmus once again, instead of using any kind of offensive spell, even though he is once again facing VOLDEMORT.
· Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.
o DUMBLEDORE QUOTES TIME:
§ “…to the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.”
§ “You think the dead we love ever truly leave us? You think we don’t recall them more clearly than ever in times of great trouble? Your father is alive in you, Harry…”
§ “…your failure to understand that there are things much worse than death has always been your greatest weakness…”
§ “It is the unknown we fear when we look upon death and darkness, nothing more.”
o In fact, what Harry Potter does is NOT to downplay the importance or gravity of death, but rather to teach us not to look on it as something to be afraid of, but rather as an extension of life. It teaches us not to fear death, but to accept it as a natural part of life.
o Argument: Twilight, if anything, teaches us that death is “no big deal.”
Point1: Bella spends 3.5 books BEGGING Edward to turn her into a vampire. What is a vampire? A dead body with a demon’s conscience. Not only does Twilight teach us that death is “no big deal,” but it teaches us that death is something to be desired.
Point2: Bella jumps off of a cliff to hear her boyfriend’s voice speak in her schizophrenic mind.
· Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.
o The period goes inside the quotation marks
o Should I even begin to go into how offensive this statement is? I think not.
o Ron and Hermione, to be perfectly truthful, DON’T get it. They each grew up with two parents who loved them. Harry grew up in a house where he was CONSTANTLY abused and mistreated by people who called themselves his “family.” And when he finally got to leave that family? He came to Hogwarts, where he had to fight for his right to live EVERY YEAR. I’m pretty sure that you too would have some pent-up bitterness if that had been your life. But, obviously, it isn’t. So don’t act like you understand either.
· It’s okay to escape from jail.
o I’m pretty sure only the Death Eaters escaped from jail. Oh, and Sirius, who was INNOCENT.
· Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!
o I’m going to ask a question. Where do you live? Because wherever it is, I’m pretty sure they’ve had a major revolution at some point or another, that has led them to a better place. Example: THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. I don’t know if that’s where YOU live (although if I had to guess, that would be my first thought), but just… think about it, ok? Brush up on some good old American history. Then rethink this statement.
o Second point: THE GOVERNMENT HAD BEEN OVERRUN BY MURDEROUS FREAKS! Voldemort had placed his agents in the government, and that same government, corrupt as it was, was doing NOTHING to stop him.
· It’s okay to break the rules.
o I’m not exactly sure to which incident you are referring, but in Harry Potter the good guys only broke rules in situations where peoples LIVES were ate stake. Their rule breaking wasn’t just random mischief that they did for kicks. It was done with the safety of others and the eradication of evil in mind.
o What it seems to me that you are trying to say here is this: It’s okay to stand idly by and watch the ones you love die for you. Because I’m pretty sure that’s the opposite of this statement, given the context. And it’s also what Bella did on more than one occasion. (Twilight, Eclipse, etc.)
· It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.
o PEOPLE WERE DYING! THE SO-CALLED AUTHORITY FIGURES WEREN’T GETTING IT! WHAT WOULD YOU DO?!
o On the other hand, there’s Bella, who screams at her father because she needs to get out of the house, who openly defies the instructions of teachers on MULTIPLE occasions, who disrespects everything her father and mother have been trying to teach them her whole life and marries her boyfriend straight out of high school because she’s in lust with him.
“And seriously, the books are also all depressing….”
Sweetheart, in real life, not everybody gets to live happily ever after. In a war, good people die. It is the price people pay for doing what is right. In Twilight, SMeyer doesn’t have a firm enough grip on reality to realize that in a fight like the one they fought in Twilight, there is no WAY that there were no casualties. Life doesn’t end happily ever after; it’s not a fairy tale. It’s life. Death is inevitable. ESPECIALLY in a war! I hate to be the one to tell you that life isn’t full of candy canes, gumdrops, and beautiful butterflies that poop sparkles. It’s rough and doesn’t always turn out the way you want it to. JKR was GENIUS in the way she wrapped up the series. I’m sorry that in Twilight, only the bad guys meet an untimely end, but that is not the way it happens in real life.
“…they’re just full of violence, and ridiculous plans.”
First of all, you don’t need a comma there. Secondly, There is a TON of pointless violence in Twilight. The battle with Victoria? The fight with James in the ballet studio? POINTLESS. And the ridiculous plans. They pitted seven vampires and something like ten werewolves against an ARMY of vampires. And PLEASE someone explain to me how the plan to avoid James made ANY sense at all, because in my mind it was completely irrational and illogical.
“Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible….”
Really? You’re arguing the improbability of MAGIC?!
1) Stop reading fantasy. Why don’t you try historical fiction? Or a textbook! That’s some very probable stuff.
2) EDWARD IS A VAMPIRE?! I’m starting to get the impression that you’ve convinced yourself that Twilight is actually a true story, and glampires like the Cullens and animagi like the Quileutes actually exist. Again, hate to break it to you, but its just a story. None of it is real, or could ever BE real. The “werewolves” communicate telepathically! If a real man tried jumping between trees with his girlfriend on his back, they’d both die. If you pitted seven people against and army of hundreds, people would die and there would be blood. If a speeding truck hit a man, he would be squished like a bug and the truck would come off without a scractch, much less a dent in the side. If you tried to suck face with a (real) vampire, he’d eat your face off. NOTHING IN TWILIGHT IS “realistic and likely to happen.” I’m SO sorry.
The fact is, actually, that Harry Potter is the more realistic of the two. JKR made it so that if we wish to believe that it’s really real, we can, because there are all sorts of precautions against Muggles coming too close to the wizarding world. This is one of many reasons why so many people love the Harry Potter books – they allows for something to believe. I know personally that that idea has helped me, and quite a few people I know through rough times. I might cry if I found out that the Cullens were real.
Also, Twilight has:
· Robert Pattinson, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!
o …This has nothing to do with the Twilight story.
o Again, go buy your boyfriend some body glitter. I know where you can get some really cheap.
o Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I personally know several people (including myself) who think that the ONLY time that RPatts was attractive was when he played Cedric Diggory in the Harry Potter movies.
o We had him first.
· Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?
o Again… this has nothing to do with Twilight. He’s a cast member.
· Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.
o Personally, it is a strain for me to watch her try to do something with the complete lack of personality that is Bella Swan. I will not deny that Kristen Stewart is talented, as I have seen her do pretty well IN OTHER MOVIES. There is simply not enough character in Bella to fill a thimble, so I admire Kristen’s effort.
o But once again, this has NOTHING to do with the Twilight story.
· The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters.
o Finally we get to something that was mentioned in the books, however:
o The Volturi ARE insane freaks in cloaks! AND they feed off of the blood of TOURISTS! At least Voldemort and his followers are (more or less) human!
o I’m not sure if you’re aware of this, but Harry Potter is widely interpreted (and correctly so, according to JKR) as a metaphor for fascism and WWII. In case I’m mistaken (and correct me if I’m wrong) Hitler (Voldemort) and the Nazis (Death Eaters) were real. I’m not too sure… I could be completely mistaken, but I THINK Hitler existed. Maybe.
§ PS – that was SO full of sarcasm, but if you didn’t get my point: HITLER WAS REAL. The pure-blood supremacy ideal and the Death Eater followers are a metaphor for a DISASTER that actually happened. This fact, more than anything else, makes Harry Potter more realistic than Twilight, which is a metaphor for… what, now? The flaws in the tourism industry in Italy? Hmm….
· 75% of these pro-Twilight points were about the actors, who have NOTHING to do with the storyline of Twilight. If you can point out to me ONE, GOOD, ORIGINAL PLOT POINT from Twilight to put into this section, I might commend you on that. Obviously you have nothing.
· Don’t even get me started listing the general hotness of the actors in Harry Potter, not to mention the number of fictional, realistic characters from the books that fans have fallen in love with JUST AS MUCH as you have fallen in love with your completely unrealistic, perfect Edward and his opposite (to appeal to the different end of the spectrum, I suppose), though equally idealistic, perfect, unrealistic character, Jacob.
Harry potter isn’t all bad, I mean, they DO have:
· Robert Pattinson as Cedric Diggory. The ONE thing the producers got right! Don’t even try to deny you don’t rewind just to watch his scenes again!
o WE HAD HIM FIRST. The ONLY role in which I thought he was actually cute. Before he was Edward, and his creepy stalker behavior COMPLETELY turned me off of him.
o The ONE the thing the producers got right!? I could write a book on the things the producers did successfully with those movies!
o Ok, I won’t deny it. I don’t rewind those scenes. Check your double negatives, honey, because there’s a slight mistake in what you’re trying to say there.
· Lucius Malfoy. He’s hot, even for an older guy!
o Your taste in men terrifies me.
o I could list SO many hot actors from Harry Potter, it would make your TWO run and hide.
QUALITY LITERATURE AND MOVIES?! LITERARY BRILLIANCE?!
I’m assuming also you place Go, Dog, Go! and The Very Hungry Caterpillar under the same heading? Because I’ve read fan fiction written by ten year olds that reads better than the Twilight novels.
Don’t believe me about Stephenie Meyer’s writing? Check out this blog: http://reasoningwithvampires.tumblr.com/
I’m sorry, but I maintain that STEPHENIE MEYER CAN’T WRITE FOR BEANS. Just saying. On the other hand, JK Rowling’s plotlines, subplots, character development, continuity, creativity, and just plain writing style are nothing short of genius.
As to the longevity of the Harry Potter books, the amount to which they have been dissected and analyzed, memorialized, and idealized shows that they will be around for a LONG time. Harry Potter fans are proud to say that we value the books over the movies, which is SO much more than the Twilight fans can say. We value Harry Potter for the literature, not the superficial ideas of outer beauty and immortal life (which, as Dumbledore says, is one of those things that humans choose that is precisely what is wrong for them [Sorcerer’s Stone]) that Twilight sadly emphasizes so strongly. Twilight has all the literary depth of an empty kiddie pool, and will therefore fade as soon as the last movie leaves theaters, and if not then, then as soon as the actors grow up and stop being so appealing to fanatic teenage fans who have dubbed themselves “Twihards.” The fact that Twilight is nothing more than the sum of the hotness factor of the actors should SAY something about the significance of the books themselves, even to the most hardcore of hardcore fans. HARRY POTTER, rather than Twilight, is a true piece of literary genius, and I know that, as it is a lasting masterpiece, it will be around for a long, LONG time to come.
Twilight is a book about lust, teen pregnancy, necrophilia, bestiality, pedophilia, and a whole lot of other things that I pray the new generation of children doesn’t pick up on. There is nothing in those books that I wish for kids to be inspired by, or that I wish for them to learn from. I am also sure that the Twilight fad will fade just as soon as they are finished with the last movie.
I don’t know about you, but I grew up on Harry Potter. It was a huge part of my childhood, and it has helped to shape a lot of the person who I am today, and it has taught me valuable life lessons that I will use forever. It is a book that inspires people to be better, to value bravery and friendship, to never underestimate the value of love, and to always do what is right, even though, as the books say, what is right is not always easy.
I’m sorry this response is so long. It was much longer before, but I did edit it down quite a bit. If you’re interested, which I’m sure you are not, there is much more I can say on the subject.
I hope you come to your senses.
xDracoDormiensx
PS – If you are planning on taking and achieving an acceptable score on the SAT, I suggest you hire a grammar coach. Sorry x
You have wonderfully articulated the counter-argument (although, really, there wasn’t much substance to argue with)! I am so very proud to see the magnificent online Potterdom!
50 points to you, SleepingDragon! =]
Haha thanks 🙂 Substance or not she needed to hear it.
Thanks again, though 😀
Sleeping Dragon, you are my hero! Thank you so much for taking the time to tackle ALL arguments with reasoning, wit, extensive knowledge of all things Harry potter…. and general common sense, something Preppy-I-Can’t-Spell-GIRL, lacks! All the points you made were amazing and if this hasn’t convinced her, she (though I suspect she does already) definitely needs psychiatric help!
Oh and also, great job on the grammar corrections!
❤ Average Hogwarts Girl, AKA Rhindleby
I think this is pathetic and it’s VERY CLEAR that you have NO idea what you’re talking about PreppyGurl
http://xdracodormiensx.tumblr.com/post/1339093985/i-laughed-so-much-and-then-wrote-basically-an
have fun
PS – Aren’t the Volturi the Vampire form of government?
HA! FLAMED!!!!!!!!! FLAMED I SAY!!!
BRAVO!
Haha, oh man, this preppy gurl is a genius!!! She perfectly captures the cliche, asinine language that pours from the mouths of today’s youth and writes ironically to point out the disturbingly flawed logic prevalent among teen girls.
Wait… is this for real?
Apparently it’s NOT real! Here’s another one of her posts saying not to take anything she says seriously and that she LOVES Harry Potter and Helena.
*Sigh of relief* Thank Rowling! I can stop worrying about using the cruciatus curse now!
BIG FAIL, preppy gurrrlll!!! You can read Twilight and think that´s cool, but you can´t compare that… mmm “thing” with Harry Potter, that´s impossible, like magic!… and of course sparkling vampires!!!
Preppygurl, you should just delete this whole post. Just accept that you have been defeated, and your moment of insanity will be forgiven, not forgotten, but yes forgiven.
yours truely,
Anne C.
HP is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better that Twilight !! I love vampire, but not smeyerpire !! I prefer Damon Salvatore from Vampire Diaries, he’s a bad ass !!
I laugh on the fact that Jo Rowling is not creative !! Are u serious ?? Joanne Rowling is not creative ?? U’ve got to be kidding me LOL
c’mon, she IS creating the new whole world. Wrackspurt, diagon alley, ministry of magic, hogwarts, hogsmade, auror, deathly hallows, etc.. she ALSO made The Noble and Most Ancient House of Black.
enough said .
HP is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better that Twilight !! I love vampire, but not smeyerpire !! I prefer Damon Salvatore from Vampire Diaries, he’s a bad ass !!
I laugh on the fact that Stephanie Meyer is creative and Jo Rowling is not creative !! Are u serious ?? Joanne Rowling is not creative ?? U’ve got to be kidding me LOL
c’mon, she IS creating the new whole world. Wrackspurt, diagon alley, ministry of magic, hogwarts, hogsmade, auror, deathly hallows, etc.. she ALSO made The Noble and Most Ancient House of Black.
enough said .
buhbye then, for HP fans : WE ARE AWESOME !! GO US !! LOL
love your username
thank u, u’re zanhar right ?? awesome, let’s attack her !! CRUCIO, Preppy Girl (see ?? i spelled it right :p) !!
“Stephenie Meyer is actually creative while JK Rowling has no original ideas at all.”
I almost fall from my chair.
I like Twilight,but I can’t even compare it to HP.HP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Twilight.
Twilight timeless?!C’mon,I don’t think that it would be classic,though HP has already been teached in schools in my country Ukraine
Absolutily crazy article without any sense
all I can say is: fail.
an epic one at that
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ahhhh this made me laugh so much. It’s a joke, right?? I mean….okay I have so many points I’ll make a list.
1. “Harry Potter teaches you: It’s ok to drop out of school” Umm….so does Twilight?? Are you telling me that all those times she skipped school to spend time with her boyfriend is better than leaving school to spend time saving the world!!
2. “Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible.” Ahhh I seeeee, and all the stuff that vampires do, and even their existence is COMPLETELY rational. Apparition is stupid, but running so fast you can’t be seen is so normal. Floo powder is in no way possible, but superpowers such as reading minds, controlling emotions and seeing the future is. OH WAIT, vampires have extra chromosomes, IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!!!! Just by the way, this is sarcasm.
3. “The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks” ……I don’t know if it’s escaped your notice, but the Volturi, well, they wear cloaks. I’m so sorry to break it to you, but it’s true. I’m sure you’ll get over your stupidity one day.
4. ” a fabuous, timeless tale that will likely be around forever. ” You do realise that Harry Potter has been around for WAY longer than Twilight, loved by more generations. People grew up with Harry Potter, lived his life along with him. Twilight is rushed and…awful.
5. “Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.” Are you sirius? Have you been hit over the head with a brick recently?? Kristen Stewart is good at whining complaining that her life sucks.
6. I do not accept any of your opinions on ‘literary brilliance’ as you use such terrible spelling and grammar so you obviously know nothing.
7. “Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.” Thing is, death does happen all the time. All over the world people are dying as I type this, so part of that is not sending out a false message. The ‘no big deal’ bit though? People get upset, they CRY over the dead, there is emotion and depth to the death, the most depth and emotion in twilight is when a girl’s boyfriend leaves her. You have terrible judgement.
Lastly, 8. Harry Potter is just win, whereas Twilight is a tale of how a woman is nothing if she cannot please her man, and isolates herself from the whole world should she lose him, and also a bit of fail mixed in. Therefore all your arguments are invalid.
People quit posting such long comments, unless you put some stupid romance in it she won’t fucking read it
I would also like to congratulate preppygurl for ruining any legitimacy she might have ever had on this page
that said wanna go out sometime? twilight encourages men to dominate submissive women so I assume you’ll say yes.
But then again you’re probably either fat as hell or have an eating disorder
Maybe I should make a page just to demean everything you post ever
or i could call the reddit hounds on your ass, want that?
Silly Marc, I already made a page for that! http://giatrixmerri.wordpress.com/
Wow you’re hot XD
😛
I just scrolled down this entire thing looking for the little lava lamp avatar so that I could laugh at the ridiculous comments and replies by the author of this page. It was making me both laugh hysterically and want to cry for the sake of humanity. PreppyGurl, you have clearly not read the Harry Potter series in it’s entirety (judging by the fact that one of your responses in the comments showed the fact that you had no idea what Dumbledore’s Army was (see what I did there? I backed up a claim with evidence, try it sometime, you will actually be taken seriously if you do it right)), therefore have no logical right to condemn it. Every one of your reasons against Harry Potter were easily refutable and the Twilight list just below it were all opinion-based statements with no relevence to the plot, only the characters. Please do some research next time.
Thank you and have a nice day.
Bri (aka: hrrypttrfn328)
I just scrolled down this entire thing looking for the little lava lamp avatar so that I could laugh at the ridiculous comments and replies by the author of this page. It was making me both laugh hysterically and want to cry for the sake of humanity. PreppyGurl, you have clearly not read the Harry Potter series in it’s entirety (judging by the fact that one of your responses in the comments showed the fact that you had no idea what Dumbledore’s Army was (see what I did there? I backed up a claim with evidence, try it sometime, you will actually be taken seriously if you do it right)), therefore have no logical right to condemn it. Every one of your reasons against Harry Potter were easily refutable and the Twilight list just below it were all opinion-based statements with no relevance to the plot, only the characters. Please do some research next time.
Thank you and have a nice day.
Bri (aka: hrrypttrfn328)
I HAVE Read the Harry Potter books, and I KNOW what Dumbldores army is. They’re the defense group Harry formed in his 5th year.
And no offense to anyone, but i’m sick and tired of getting comments like this from people who clearly have NOT clicked the button at the top of the page that says “READ THIS BEFORE READING THE ARTICLES”, OR seen my “Don’t take this seriously” post. Go to this blogs HOME, and either look at the top of the page OR read my “Don’t take this seriously” post. Honestly! DON’T send me stuff like this until you’ve seen everything OR nkow the whole story!
Thank You!
NON-Preppy Girl (Girl, NOT Gurl)
Don’t worry, no one takes you seriously anyway
HAHA this is ridiculous :———–D
literature?
as much as Harry Potter is fantastic (and i meant that sincerely), LITERATURE it really isn’t… at least not at the moment.
Try Pride and Prejudice sometime.
i don’t hate HP and twilight. i like HP and Twilight equally. HP makes me imaginative while Twilight makes me understand what love really is.
i admire all the characters in both movies/books.
not because they’re hot but because they all did a great job on portraying the real characters.
and i also think it’s not right to compare them both because this two have different concepts. 🙂
HP wants people to glimpse a world full of magic and tell everyone that witches are not old ladies with long noses and crazy laughs. 🙂
while Twilight wants people to believe that not all vampires burn in the sun and have sharp fangs that really turns off girls. 🙂
I’m Twi-Potter Team!
Let me just.. Okay.
“Twilight makes me understand what love really is.”
So, love is for example creeping in your girlfriend’s room and watch her sleep? I’d think that’s creepy.
You wouldn’t know good literature if it hit you square in the face
Look at your life. Look at your choices.
1. It’s Pattinson, not Pattison.
2. “realistic” lol, sure, because vampires sparkle and werewolves exist.
3. Harry Potter isn’t supposed to be realistic, it’s FICTION.
No, but really, this.. No. No words.
The fuck were you thinking.
Twilight isn’t better. Harry Potter isn’t better. Well, the writing in Harry Potter is better, but let’s not talk about that.
THEY’RE NOT THE SAME. OKAY?
Two different sagas.
K, bye.
can i hit you? i want to hit you
Harry Potter is unrealistic?
Its impossible to do magic?
Of course, but vampires, werewolves and shit like that is totally realistic and every-day like you retarded little kid.
I will use Petunia’s words for you: “FREAK!”
oh dear, people need to read the “PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE READING ANY ARTICLES” post first before flaming! the author meant this as a joke, guys, calm down! ❤
Please tell me there is no one out there that actually thinks like this. I know that these aren’t actually your thoughts and all, but please…tell me that the next generation isn’t lost. TELL ME THAT THEY DON’T ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN THIS!
1) “Twilight is a timeless tale of love (..)” lol
That’s going a bit too far don’t you think? the only aspect of timeless in this story is the fact that vampires are immortal.
2) “(..) Plus, they’re MAJORLY hot instead of being creepy. ”
I see…I mean, Armand and Lestrad can be so dull and unsexy. Well…they do think Justin Bieber is a hotty.
-_-” Yeah, humanity is lost.
Okay, i’m sorry, but that is the worst article i have ever read.
Your points, as to why ‘Twilight is better than Harry Potter’ are absolutely horrible.
We do not watch Harry Potter based on how hot the actors are.
We watch it because it is the most fucking movie ever.
Unlike Twilight, it does not teach you that without our wee little sparkley boyfriends we can’t live or whatever; it teaches you bravery, and loyalty.
But you’re too ignorant to notice that.
I honestly cannot stop laughing. First of all, learn how to spell. Girl is not spelled “gurl.” You also sound like an obsessive tween who fawns over Twilight because it has Edward Cullen. How sad literature is being utterly destroyed by this crap. Pick out any passage in Twilight and Harry Potter, then compare the two. The writing of Harry Potter is clearly better than Twilight. I wouldn’t be surprised if Meyer didn’t go to college for literature and writing. A ten-year old can write better than that. I do like the movies. But, the fact I HATE the books and only like the movies. Well, that should tell you something. Also, clearly you have never seen the Little Vampire. I mean, they portrayed vampires as cute little kids who want to be friends with human. In your standards, shouldn’t that be a classic? I mean, the Little Vampire doesn’t have people dressed up like manly Ke$has in sunlight but it’s original. Also, the werewolves in Twilight…I’m not sure what it looked like to you, but it looks like a gang. So, does Meyer thinks gangs are cool? Probably not. So, don’t make generalizations about Harry Potter because your article is about to be ripped apart. If you have any respect for Stephen King, you recognize the dominance of Rowling over Meyer. He thinks Meyer’s writing blows, and it does. Also, Harry died to save people. People die everyday (I’m not sure if you are aware of this.). This is like saying it is not okay to die for someone you love. TWILIGHT HAS VIOLENCE. Um, hello. People trying to KILL Bella? Woah..and vampires are totally possible. I mean, there isn’t a religion called paganism is there? Only one called twilightism. You’re arguments have NO basis in fact. Also, look at the Rupert Grint. He is the hottest boy ever. Also, Pattinson looks gross outside of the movies. I also like a man who can hang out in the sun.
Peace.
Umm I dunno if you guys know this but this is all fake. She clearly states that at the top of the page.
You must be mad.
“Magic is impossible” And being a vampire or werewolf isn’t?
1) Robert Pattinson looks like a foot
2) Kristen Stewart isn’t a very good actress
3) The reason why some of the good characters die in harry potter is so you can actually feel some emotion, not like “Oh he sparkles i must fuck him.”
4) Harry Potter is more creative than twilight anyday! JK Rowling has used real myths and legends to create her characters and plots, which is something Stephenie Meyer will never understand.
5)”It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.” No, it teaches that you should stand up for your friends and for your family, to be courageous and to do everything in your power to stop those who do bad things.
“Violence is totally cool.” Where in the books does it say that it is okay to kill? I think the main message is that killing and violence is evil…
“Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.” Did you even see how the Weasley family and the school reacted when Fred and Dumbledore died? Yes death does happen a lot but it definitely is a big deal, maybe not for everyone but for the persons family.
“Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”. “I think if someone killed your parents you might be a jerk to a few people.
“It’s okay to escape from jail.” Harry Potter is a book, it’s not telling prisoners to transform and escape from prison.
“Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!” In Harry Potter the government ignored all the facts and i think it was appropriate to not listen to them.
“It’s okay to break the rules.” Have you ever broken any rules? I’m guessing you have like everyone else, sometimes it’s necessary to break some rules, if your friends were in danger would you do nothing because of the rules?
Twilight teaches people that:
1) Vampires and werewolves don’t exactly see eye to eye
2) It’s necessary to have sex with someone if you feel an attraction
3) It makes girls seem weak, Bella could not live without Edward is that saying that all girls need someone to take care of them?
4) It is extremely romantic to put yourself in dangerous situations in order to see your ex-boyfriend again
5) Lying to your parents is fine
Harry Potter is obviously a million times better than Twilight.
The end.
are you fucking retarded?
Harry potter is better because Robert Pattison is murdered in it.
imjustsayin
Harry potter is better because Robert Pattison is murdered in it.
imjustsayin
Twilight= gayest thing since anal sex
I JUST NEED ANYONE TO PROVE ME WRONG THAT TWILIGHT READERS ARE NOT SHALLOW BUNCH OF TEENAGE GIRLS WHO CAN COMPREHEND THE DEPTH OF SOCIALLY RELEVANT ISSUES. LOOKS LIKE NONE OF THESE GIRLS COULD LIKE TWILIGHT BEYOND HOT GUYS. OMG. YOU CANT REMEMBER MERITORIOUS BOOK BECAUSE OF HOT GUYS ARE YOU KIDDING ME.
Ew. Ew. Ew.
Preppygurl, I know you’re probably crying your eyes off right now cus you’ve obviously read ALL of the Negative comments about your post. But I don’t think I care about that. Cus I have to say, You are one stupid little Twi-geek are you now? The Wizarding WORLD is a whole different universe which JK Rowling imagined and wrote about herself. But what does Twilight have to offer? Sparkling Vampires? PUH-LEASE!
FOR FUCK’S SAKE GUYS THAT ARTICLE WAS A JOKE.
She said she was writing as a twihard to poke fun at them! If this was legit, I’d be mad, but surely everyone knows it’s only a parody?!
“Magic is impossible.”
And vampires are?
Your sense of logic is quite bogus, honey.
J.K rowling has no original ideas at all??? GO READ THE BOOKS…. its more creative than that love story crap…
Dude haven’t you ever heard of FICTION? That’s what Harry Potter is and there are no boundaries in it. How realistic is that in Twilight vampires have eternal lives? Check out the Cirque De Freak Series by Darren Shan, its also on vampires and a 110% better than it.
People, peace out! Both goods are good in their own respect and everyone’s got their taste so we can’t really criticize others for not liking Twilight as much as Harry Potter or vice versa.
As far as Preppy Girl is concerned she is a senseless idiot. Try to come up with a better argument next time for disliking Harry Potter so much. Maybe she just did it to attract readers to her blog 😛
*face palm*
jump off a cliff
Woooooow. Keep telling yourself she is creative.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Seriously, sweetheart, when did you suffer your brain damage? I’m very sorry. I hope you recover soon.
I’d also like to say bravo, xDracoDormiensx.
Oh my… I just facepalmed. Hardcore. I love both Harry Potter and Twilight. But there is NO way that Twilight is better than Harry Potter. You say “Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible. And there’s no way you could seriously just “apparate” dissappear and reappear somewhere else. And if you tried to hop in a fire to go someplace, “Floo Powder”, you’d burn your face off. It’s just crazy, whereas the scenarios in Stephenie Meyers Twilight series are more realistic and likely to happen.
Also, Twilight has:
Robert Pattison, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!
Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?
Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.
The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters.”
Magic is impossible? So are vampires. There’s no such thing. With the Floo Powder thing… you wouldn’t burn your face off because it’s magic. Obviously it would be taken care of. Robert Pattinson, Taylor Lautner, and Kristen Stewart have absolutely nothing to do with the story of Twilight. They merely play the characters in the books. They didn’t write the stories. The Volturi are realistic? I didn’t know that vampires who live in an Italian city for hundreds of years is realistic. The only thing realistic in Twilight is love. Oh, and the fact that Bella moved to live with her dad. That could happen in real life. But the vampires and werewolves? Not so much.
There is nothing realistic about either book. Twilight is a love story. Harry Potter is a story about overcoming obstacles and fighting for what you believe in. Stop being delusional, ya dumbass.
I really do hope this is a fucking joke… Or you are just mentally retarded.
Haha, I LAUGHED SO MUCH READING THIS. You have no fucking BRAIN!
Ahaha, it IS a joke 8)
So Twilight is more creative? So they have like what, vampires and wolves?
Creative, real creative.
I mean Harry Potter only has werewolves, thestrals, wizards, house-elves, gindylows
and many more.
Your right. Soooo right *sarcasm*
(:
You are an Idiot.
You guys do realize this is a JOKE sight, right, lol.
Has no-one read the disclaimer? XD The entire article is a joke…and I’m glad. Twilight is a load of pointless dribble that Meyer threw up one Friday night when she was drunk.
Goodness. Chill out, kids. Did none of you notice the author’s name? Come on. It was written by…hmmm, let’s think about… SarcasticGirl.
Sar. Cas. Tic. Get it?
I mean, obviously, the correct solution to the problem is to go eat some Irish babies. =/
I take offense to that, eat french babies, they’re better.
DISCLAIMER: This site is NOT SERIOUS! This is a JOKE site. I made this for fun, to try and capture the average, shallow teen girl, and subtly poke fun at them, and Twihards.
Did any of you guys read that? ^^
It’s at the top of the page, it’s obvious she’s taking the piss out of some people.
Oh preppygurl, I’m sorry that even people on the Twihater team can’t recognize satire when they read it and that this post is getting trolled over and over again by people who just repeat the same things with varying degrees of intelligence, relevance, and plausible grammar… I laughed all the time reading your post. You rock. After all, who doesn’t believe that Edward’s sparkly attacks could take down Harry Potter anytime?
LMAO!!! I spent like the ten minutes reading this yelling at it and saying you’re screwing with us.
And then I figured out you were. I feel stupid but that is so spot-on. 😀
alright, you think twilight is better than harry potter? first of all, how is a sparkly vampire better than a whole series of well-written books that created an entirely new WORLD? have you even read the books/watched the movies to say this? you have got to be kidding me. “LYK, OMG, TWILIGHT IS SO MUCH BETTER CUZ IT HAS HOT GUYS AND SUCH AN INTERESTING PLOT!” no, it does not have an interesting plot. it’s basically the same fucking love story again, except with “vampires.” should i say, pedophile vampires and werewolves. vampires should not sparkle. if you’re dissing Dracula, then you’re dissing vampires, since Dracula’s basically the classic vampire. anyways, onto other points of your whole “twilight is so much better than harry potter” piece of crap article.
“omg, rpattz is so hot!” – really? really? he looks like he doesn’t shower. period.
i’ll give you the taylor lautner one.
kristen stewart is a beautiful and talented actress that has great potential? don’t be shitting me. she can’t act to save her LIFE, and can’t even portray emotion.
Voldemort is a more legitimate villain than the Volturi ever will be. “omg, they’re just vampires in cloaks that are like, royal or whatever!” Voldemort is a MUCH better villain than any of the Volturi.
Harry Potter is a classic story that has been with us for AGES. If it’s such a “bad” book, then why are there MILLIONS of fans of HP all over the world, MORE than what Twilight has? That’s right. Because J.K. Rowling is an amazing author, while Stephenie Meyer writes some bs about a sappy vampire love story that features insane babies who try to claw their way out of the womb and pedophilic werewolves.
Any of the HP actors/actresses could kick Twilight’s ass. ‘Nuff said.
Hi guys! Before you hate on this person, perhaps you should read the disclaimer first. ^^
YES YOU ALL SHOULD!
Read the whole story… don’t go publishing stuff like this like you know everything… And like the ‘shiny vampire’ that you so admire says in Stephenie Meyer’s Breaking Dawn, The Quileutes are only shape-changers, and, what pisses me off the most is YOU JUST JUDGED AN EFFING BOOK BY THE EFFING LOOKS OF THE ARTISTS PLAYING THEM IN THE MOVIES… By doing so, YOU INSULTED BOTH STEPHENIE MEYER AND JK ROWLING… And FYI, every novel is an original Idea… By saying that an author, any author, has no original ideas… YOU INSULT EVERY AUTHOR ALIVE!
One more thing, The word government is anonymous to the word honesty
Your arguments are so invalid, you make me laugh. I’m not even sure you have read the Harry Potter books.
This is nonsense, Hp > Twilight.
Toilette is a story about a stupid shining vampire wow. AMAZING.
Pathetic.
Oh By the way, Robert Pattinson is most ugly guy I have ever see. Open your eyes girl.
It’s fantasy, darling. It isn’t supposed to be realistic. That’s what fantasy means. *patpat*
Really?
Who wrote this article? A ten year old?
I read Twilight– probably the most horrible thing that has ever happened in my life.
Twilight teaches
-how important it is to have a boyfriend
-leave your family behind for a boyfriend
-that looks matter
-apparently, its okay to fall in love with a 108-year old
-when you sparkle like a freakin’ fairy, you get insta-girls
-when your boyfriend leaves you, you sit in a spinny chair for months
-not have a life
-not live, but get knocked up
Harry Potter teaches
-Friendship can overcome everything
-WHAT REAL LOVE
-You have to take risks to save the people you love
-Losing a loved one is tragic, and should be grieved for
-Courage
-Bravery
-not to trust the government when there’s an evil maniac trying to take over the world
Twilight isnt even ABOUT love. It’s about lust. OKAY?
And, seriously, can it at least TRY to be realistic?
Vampires? SPARKLING vampires? In biology class?
Edward stalks her too. Seriously. Ever heard of privacy?
And, to whoever wrote this article, obviously doesnt know what love is. They only care about looks.
Can you BE more self-centered?
LOL. is al i have to say to this
LOL. is all i have to say to this
is this… are you being serious right now?
oh my god none of your reasons even make sense. i can’t even tell if you’re being serious. first of all, the fact that stephanie meyer’s brand of “vampire” sparkles does not make her creative. it is a product of a horny dream she had. secondly, twilight is no tale of love. it’s a tale of beastiality. bella is no hero. she’s dependent on edward, yet i would bet she doesn’t even know what his favorite color is. their relationship has no substance. also, i don’t know what book you were reading, because harry potter has an intense, winding plot line. everything JK Rowling wrote somehow fit together. she pulled things from the first book and made them fit into the finale. what did stephanie meyer do? here is a summary of her “epic saga”: omgz edward ur so hot n sparkly i luv u. w8 there r bad vamps tht want 2 kill me? ew jacob get away from me. w8 jacob come back edward left me my lyf is a spiralling abyss i hav no reason 2 live omgggg. nvm jacob back off im going 2 rescue edward from da terrifying volturi i am such a heroine. o god da redhead from last yr is coming 2 get me o no0o0o. jacob… edward… who 2 pick idk so i make out wit both. edward u wnt 2 get married omgz now im preggers wit a crazy human vampire bby thts illegal so da volturi come 2 get meh. oh nvm they said it was ok whew dat was a close one
if you think that’s an interesting plot, you’re a few IQ points away from a functioning human being. also, if you think that you can go to school and meet a vampire and werewolf AND date both of them, then you need a reality check. twilight is not realistic at all.
stephanie meyer broke her own rules to get the ending she wanted whereas jk rowling understands the concept of death (even the good guys die). the only characters in twilight that died were “bad vampires”. if you want to add clearwater, he was barely a developed enough character to kill off.
the volturi are nowhere near terrifying. all they’ve got is empty threats. voldemort has minions who only follow him because of the fear of what he would do if they were to betray him.
you wanna talk about substance? fine. then don’t mention the fact that twilight has a plethora of “totally hawt guys so qt omgz” because there’s no quality literature in that.
there is nothing quality about twilight. the end.
Oh my god, this post is hilarious. Had me laughing out loud. I can’t wait to read more. I appreciate the sarcasm as a fellow Twilight hater and Harry Potter lover.
well.. your a tit :}
fuck twilight, harry potter all the way!♥
Okay so I am usually against saying anything bad about anyone else, especially online. But you are so IGNORANT I can’t believe it. And I’m not trying to be mean, I just need to respond to this because it is ridiculous for you to say something like this. I don’t care if someone has already said this up there, I’m not going to read through all your comments.
Oh and yes, I have read the entire Harry Potter series and the entire Twilight series MULTIPLE times, probably more than you have. And I am not at all a Twilight fan anymore because it is terribly written and shows no complexity in the plot line.
“Twilight is a timeless tale of love, then love lost and found again. It shows how love can get you through everything. It’s such a sweet story about the things people do for love, like Bella goes all the way to Italy to save Edward from the Volturi, for instance.”
Timeless tale? Really, it had it’s time but tones of people have given up on Twilight. I doubt it will live on for more than ten or so years, whereas Harry Potter has already gone down as one of the greatest characters of our time due to his astounding traits. Whereas the main characters have WEAK character traits and are just annoying to read about, unless you are 12 and in some kind of “vampire phase”.
And if you have READ Harry Potter you would realize that love is one of the central ideas holding the story together. His mother’s love saves him from being killed at age 1. Voldemort’s ignorance of love saves his life multiple time. And Snape constantly risks his life because of the love he has for Lily Potter. Twilight’s version of love is just a cheap thrill.
“Also, Twilight is MUCH more creative, I mean, Stephenie Meyer created a new kind of Vampire, instead of just using a stereotypical, Dracula type Vampire. I mean, they sparkle, how awesome is that? Plus, they’re MAJORLY hot instead of being creepy.”
You’re one of those people who only cares about looks right? Well anyways Twilight, creative? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Twilight’s storyline is weak, she made it up as she went along, and yes I know this because I used to read Meyer’s blog. J.K. Rowling spent 7 years thinking of a magical world. The classical vampire, the definition of vampire, has nothing to do with sparking, ice cold, overly-attractive vampires. Wow she thought of making the lead character attractive, what a mind.
“And the werewolves aren’t your typical “full-moon-flesh-eater” type. It shows that Stephenie Meyer is actually creative while JK Rowling has no original ideas at all.”
I seriously feel like puking. Do you have any idea the amount of the thought that must have gone into Harry Potter? She had his entire life, along with the lives of many other main, secondary, and tertiary characters planned out, along with plot twists, the life of wizards, spells and CREATIVE names, a magical castle with houses, a point system, a whole new world with laws, and limitations though all build on the concept of magic, magical creature, the entire idea of Quidditch, all the candies, shops, products students would have access to, all of this was planned before the 1st book was even released. She knew what characters were going to die and how, how Harry would end up in his late thirties, the whole ideas and processes of the Horcruxes and Hallows all figured out before she even knew she would get any recognition for this. She is a literary genius. And she managed to foreshadow plot twists that would happen in that book in the early books. Meyer didn’t foreshadow anything, Twilight is more like a bad soap opera than anything. Stephenie Meyer has no talent.
“Twilight is just so sweet and romantic, a fabuous, timeless tale that will likely be around forever. Harry Potter is just a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters, and has no plot. TWILIGHT 4 EVER!”
Wait NO PLOT? WTF. Back to what I said up there. Twilight has no plot, and everything that happens in Harry Potter is relevant to the massive plot line, unlike Twilight, which sucks.
Oh and learn to spell, its *fabulous, and mashup is not ever a word.
“Also, Harry Potter teaches you:
* It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.
* Violence is totally cool.
* Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.”
For the first one, did you even read Harry Potter? Because you did not understand it at all.
There IS violence in Twilight, know the book you’re defending so ignorantly.
Actually in Harry Potter death is a very big deal, it is the central idea and Harry struggles with it for the entire series because his parents were murdered. Oh and death does happen all the time and it is important for people to know that, it is the first step to acceptance. And how could Jo Rowling not treat it as a big deal, her mother died, and that has a lot to do with it being such a big thing.
“* Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.
* It’s okay to escape from jail.
* Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!
* It’s okay to break the rules.
* It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.”
You act like death is nothing, “just because you’re an orphan” wow way to be insensitive. And he was having a rough time, as he deserved to. He just watched his friend get murdered and didn’t just brush it off his shoulder.
Um you do know Sirius was innocent right? And escaped to help the wizarding world because he thought Wormtail may kill Harry and go back to Voldemort to help his regain power.
You’re very naive if you 100% trust you’re government, especially if you live in the US. You have no idea what kind of terrible things they allow do you?
“And seriously, the books are also all depressing. Lots of good characters die, which isn’t cool. And they’re just full of violence, and ridiculous plans. Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible. And there’s no way you could seriously just “apparate” dissappear and reappear somewhere else. And if you tried to hop in a fire to go someplace, “Floo Powder”, you’d burn your face off.”
You do not understand Harry Potter, they are not all depressing. You just are a bad judge of character. What about New Moon, that’s a very depressing book, and for stupid reasons. Twilight has plenty of violence, vampires rip each other apart in like every book.
“It’s just crazy, whereas the scenarios in Stephenie Meyers Twilight series are more realistic and likely to happen.”
Seriously, get a therapist. VAMPIRES AND WEREWOLFS DO NOT EXIST. At least HP fans understand that they’re reading FICTION.
“Also, Twilight has:
* Robert Pattison, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!
* Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?
* Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.
* The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters”
Yeah, you obviously only care about looks. And um the Volturi aren’t even villians exactly, they never really do anything terrible. James and Victoria are the villians. I know Twilight better than you, and I don’t even like it. Wait have you read Twilight? I’m not sure. Voldemort kills and tortures innocent people, thats EVIL.
“And that’s about it. Seriously, you want QUALITY literature and movies, watch Twilight. I mean, I don’t HATE Harry Potter or anything, It’s just like, NOTHING compared to the literary BRILLIANCE that is Twilight!”
Once again, Twilight is not quality, brilliant, ect. and you’re argument sucks.
By the way many famous, world-known authors have commented on Jo Rowling’s literary brillance, and trashed Stephenie Meyer’s.
EX. “Both Rowling and Meyer, they’re speaking directly to young people. … The real difference is that [Harry Potter author] Jo Rowling is a terrific writer and [Twilight author] Stephenie Meyer can’t write worth a darn. She’s not very good.”
— Stephen King
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Why Harry Potter is better than Twilight?
Okay so let me begin by telling you what Twilight is about. It’s about a sparkling pedophile who wants to eat some random chick because her “blood smells good.” And it’s about the obsessive chick that needs to go out and get a life instead of go after sparkling vampires.
Harry Potter is about love, courage and friendship. It’s about fighting for your beliefs. I’m sorry if some maniac were trying to take over I wouldn’t just sit there and be like okay. I’d do something about it … like I don’t know go against a government whose too stupid to realize the maniac is back.
Oh and do you really think Twilight is creative because there is no creativity whatsoever. Okay fine she created some sparkling vampires and some werewolves that aren’t really werewolves. That’s about it. J.K. Rowling created a whole different world with different types of creatures. She created a school out of thin air and different classes and teachers to go along with it. I mean if someone wanted to remake this school, all the different information for it would be in the books. She created a story, plot and theme all from her heart and her head. Her ideas had a meaning deeper than killing yourself over some girl. Harry Potter would’ve risked his life for good, for everyone who deserves it. Edward would’ve risked his life only for Bella. If the rest of the world were dying, Edward’s thoughts would be “Who cares as long as Bella’s okay.” If that actually happened, they would end up killing themselves anyway. No point in living if everyone else is dead. J.K. Rowling wasn’t being stereotypical. She was being traditional. She didn’t want to stray away from traditional beliefs. There’s a difference. Twilight just wanted to appeal to stupid little girls. Rowling wanted to send a message to kids. She wanted to teach them the difference between what’s right and what’s not wrong. Twilight just taught kids that nothing is more important than your boyfriend.
At least the characters in Harry Potter aren’t wimps. They fight. They don’t sit there crossing their fingers and running away from a fight like Twilight characters. Ginny didn’t force Harry to hide out in a mountain when he had to go save the world. Oh and so what if people died. Death means something Rowling. Her own mother died. She’s trying to get across that no matter how painful death can be, you can still move on and learn from it. There’s more to life and death. Dumbledore himself said that death is just the next great adventure. Rowling addresses important issues in her books. The fact that so many have died for a greater purpose helps children get through deaths of their own family and loved ones.
The fact that Harry wanted to go alone was because he didn’t want to risk anyone else’s lives. Too many people have died for him and this was the end. He had to do it himself because there was no other way.
So what if Harry didn’t agree with his government? The United States is a democracy where the people rule. If the government is doing something wrong and against the people’s beliefs then the people have the right to overthrow it. The Ministry of Magic did not believe that the homicidal maniac was back. They took over the free press and wouldn’t let anyone print the truth. Would you listen to a government like that?
BTW, Sparkling vampires and werewolves don’t exist in the real world either so you’re argument that Harry Potter is unrealistic is kind of a fail. And magic does exist. That’s another thing Rowling teaches you. Magic exists in friendship and love. Bonds like that can’t be broken and love can conquer all evil. The Twilight series is about as likely to happen as a sparkling vampire showing up at my door. Twilight shouldn’t even be counted as literature or brilliance.
Harry Potter has been around for longer than a decade. Twilight will be dead in a few years. Once all the twelve-year-old girls grow up and realize that their boyfriends aren’t going to kill themselves over them, the girls will realize that Twilight is UNREALISTIC. It’s getting their hopes up, only to let them down in the end.
P.S. I don’t see any theme parks constructed in honor of Twilight.
Conclusion: You need to go jump off a cliff. Maybe some werewolf will come save you. Probably not.
So you’re saying sparkly gay fairies are better than ass-kicking wizards? I don’t get it.
WHAT TWILIGHT TEACHES YOU THAT IS OKAY:
1. Having sex with a dead corpse is totally sexy. So if your into Necrophilia it’s totally okay.
2. Being abusive to your girl friend is okay too! It may not be physical but gosh darn, emotional abuse is just so much more better.
3. A guy stalking you, is totally hot. It’s so mysterious and who knows he might not be a serial killer at all.
4. If a boy tells you to stay away from him because he is dangerous and may even kill you, he must be the love of your life. You should stay with him since he will keep you safe forever.
5. When a boy leaves you, going into shock, losing all your friends and enduring night terrors are completely acceptable occurrences — as long as you keep your grades up.
6. It is extremely romantic to put yourself in dangerous situations in order to see your ex-boyfriend again. It’s even more romantic to remember the sound of his voice when he yelled at you.
7. Car theft in the service of love is acceptable.
8. If the boy you are in love with causes you (even indirectly) to be so badly beaten you end up in the hospital, you should tell the doctors and your family that you “fell down the steps” because you are such a silly, clumsy girl. That false explanation always works well for abused women.
9. It’s totally fine for your best guy friend to fall in love with your child. No pedophilia at all.
10. If you have to pick between a cold vampire or a hot werewolf. ALWAYS choose the cold vampire.
11. LIE TO YOUR PARENTS. All the time.
12. Being socially awkward and clumsy gets all the guys.
What. The. Hell.
I litterally want to murder you. You’re just stupid. There’s funny, then there’s stupid. Then there’s you. I hate you.
You are the stupidest girl I’ve ever had the chance to encounter on the web. Do yourself a favor and cancel your WordPress account because you’re just as bad and as childish a writer as your idol Stephenie Meyer.
your disclaimer states that “this is a JOKE site”
well, that is one thing you’ve gotten right – twilight is a joke. it has been said to be one of the worst written series in literacy history – you can thank stephen king for that one.
whether it is in the books or the films, rowling’s world engulfs the reader and transports them into a world completely different from this one. meyer’s world created in forks represents that town truly for what it is; boring, bland and completely lacking in diversity. ask those who live there.
please. don’t even attempt to think of a justification of twilight being superior to harry potter. rowling’s creation is the most successful in literacy history, i doubt a bunch of sparkling vampires is going to take that title away any time soon.
I totally read into the sarcasm. Niiiiiiiice trolling.
No. Just no.
Haha! Love the name.
This is one of OR NOT THE MOST RIDICULOUS THINGS I HAVE EVER SEEN/READ.
You obviously don’t know good writing/plot/characters/or anything at that, if you think Twilight is better than Harry Potter. All Bella does in the books is try to kill herself because of Edwart & only cares about him. How the hell is that suppose to teach you something? Kill yourself if some ugly,sparkly vampire isn’t around. All “Twihart” fans care about is whether Bella is gonna have sex w/ Edwart AS WHERE Harry Potter fans care whether Harry will defeat Voldemort or what’s the next huge twist in the story not who he’s fucking.
So before you get Harry Potter fans EVEVRYTHING pissed off ( and I’m most positive there are more HP fans than Twilight fans ) I suggest you make a better alibi than “romance conqures all” CUS WELL THIS IS REALITY & IT DOESN’T. hmph.
You know what? You are not good in judging movie. You don’t judge the story, bitch, you judge the actors. So what if Edward cullen is hot? So what if Taylor Lautner has that ugly muscles? THEIR APPEAL DON’T AFFECT THE STORY. IF THE STORY IS CRAP THEN IT IS CRAP NO MATTER HOW GOOD THE ARTISTS ARE. So what if Kristen Stewart is talented and beautiful? (even though she’s not! Emma Watson is obviously more talented and beautiful than her.) REALISTIC VILLAINS? WTF! THAT’S WHY IT’S CALLED FICTION! IMAGINARY TALE! SO YOU THINK THE VILLAINS IN TWILIGHT ARE REALISTIC. THE HELL, THEY’RE NOT! WEREWOLVES? VAMPIRES? ALL ARE CRAP!
I’m sorry but unlike you, I have rational reasons as to why I hate a book and vice versa.
I hate twilight because it is totally not original. I mean seriously. There have been at least a thousand books that have the “damsel going to extraordinary lengths to save her boyfriend” method. ?And I’m pretty sure that Stephanie Meyer got her inspiration from some cheap romance book she picked up from the sidewalk.
Harry Potter is amazing because J.K Rowling had managed to create a story full of adventure, and she managed to create the names of spells without making them sound like they came out from the mouth of a baby.
I do not judge a book by it’s characters’ hotness unlike you. I’m sorry, but even though Jacob has really nice abs, I won’t go and immediately say that Twilight is a better book when it is in fact, not.
And are you freakin’ kidding me? Edward? Hot? how can you even manage to put those words together in one sentence without using the word “not”? I’m sorry but the guy sparkles. My niece one thought that he was a ken doll.
Needless to say, I prefer Harry Potter over Twilight…since I value originality than hotness. And I value my money so sorry, I’m not going to buy the Twilight series. You call those books? I call them toilet paper.
“DISCLAIMER: This site is NOT SERIOUS! This is a JOKE site. I made this for fun, to try and capture the average, shallow teen girl, and subtly poke fun at them, and Twihards.”
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Whew… good one, Preppy Gurl, almost thought you were serious there for a second.
hey! Is your mind okay? I THINK NOT! Who the hell likes twilight?!
And for your information:
-robert pattinson Is not hot! How can a sparkling vampire be COOL
I have one thing to say about edward cullen:
Sparkling, doesn’t eat people, too kind, Looks weird he’s totally NOT a vampire more of a Fairy!!!
-Hp doesn’t teach you that stuff well yeah but it all has a PURPOSE!
-And if you compare Hp with Schwilight I could say this: HP sell LIFE LESSONS in a manner of AWESOME CREATIVITY! UNLIKE schwilight which sells sex and other stuff like dropping out of school for your boyfriend Unlike Twilight Hp is Suitable for ALL ages, And schwilight which is only for 13 and above is dangerous because its only encourages teens to drop out for your bf so what do you think is better now huh!
I can not even begin to explain how much this annoys me……JUST GRRR!!!!!!!!!
Everything you just said. EVERYTHING. Is a complete and utter lie. I get this is a joke blog, but still, JESUS CHIRST! There comes a point where you are not supposed to post things like this with a clear mind.
Funny.
oh yeah?! hey, do you think that sparkling vampires and being immortal is realistic??!
oh wait.. I guess sparkling vampires are possible if you showered them with a pail of glitters. *laughs*
Maybe you should learn more about the terms science fiction and realistic fiction ‘coz I don’t think you understand them.
Hot guys is totally an invalid reason for a story or MOVIE to be good. What if you have hot guys as your characters but you don’t have a plot? It’ll end up to be a crap just like twilight.
And about the things you learned from Harry Potter, I think that you really didn’t understand it’s story beacause everything you pointed out has it’s very own unique reason why J.K. Rowling ended up with that kind of story.
You should stop comparing twilight from Harry Potter because the results are very obvious. Don’t ever think that Twilight is better, I repeat it’s, very obvious.
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!
For the record I’ve read both HP and Twilight (ALL OF THE BOOKS).
Are you like fucking retarded? Or have never seen a HP book in your life?
Saying that magic is not real when we have RIDICULOUS SPARKLING GAY VAMPIRES??
I can’t even BEGIN to tell you how horribly wrong you are:O
I AGREE! How insane it is to compare two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BOOKS? Of course HP is better.
werewolves in twilight are just animagi.
and you say j.k.rowling isn’t original…
Technically they aren’t…
The definition of an animagus is; An Animagus (pl. Animagi) is a witch or wizard who can morph him or herself into a specific animal at will. It is a learned, rather than hereditary, skill, unlike those of a Metamorphmagus.
In twilight, they aren’t witches or wizards. They sort of do it at will, but they didn’t necessarily choose to be it. They are supposed to, so it’s hereditary.
OH NO YOU DIDN’T
J.K Rowling is creative, she elaborated a great deal on wizardry. She even created Quidditch!
Twilght is just full of sappy, horrible romance that people wanna see when they’re suicidal!
And the thing that ultimately defeats the greatest Dark wizard of all time is LOVE(: Doing things for love is likely to happen.
Oh, you think a vampire that sparkles falls in love with some depressed piece of shit is “likely to happen”
Fuck! Get your head out of your arse.
And the message about government shown in the books are, they’re corrupt. And one would even break the law for someone they love (real love not the stupid obsessed infatuation in twilight)
The message about Death is that it takes as it pleases and yes it happens all the time, but even after people pass, they’re still with us.
P.S correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t the Volturi wear cloaks as well?
Hey, guys… it says at the top of this page, and I quote, “DISCLAIMER: This site is NOT SERIOUS! This is a JOKE site. I made this for fun, to try and capture the average, shallow teen girl, and subtly poke fun at them, and Twihards.”
As much as I believe that T******t is so terrible that I won’t even type out it’s name, and that Harry Potter is possibly the best series ever written, stop flaming. This person is JOKING.
P.S.: To the people who are supporting Harry Potter, but can’t spell/type/use grammar properly: please, just don’t write anything. You give us Pott-heads a bad name, and do more harm than good.
Nice job, PG. See what you started? xD But really, the article is scary…
Scarier still is the fact that there are idiots who actually think that way… It makes me weep for humanity.
it is things like this that cause me to *facepalm* stephenie meyer, creative! ha! and dont come at me, I;ve read all of the books on both sides and HP blows twitlight out of the water. and btw we have steven king on our side… so yeah, your argument is invalid
I believe his name is spelled Stephen, not steven.
Many people who commented on this have given extremely excellent reasons as to why Preppy Gurl is completely delusional in thinking Harry Potter is a poor piece of writing compared to Twilight. But there is one point in her argument that troubles me, and that is this piece:
“I mean, Magic is impossible. And there’s no way you could seriously just “apparate” dissappear and reappear somewhere else. And if you tried to hop in a fire to go someplace, “Floo Powder”, you’d burn your face off.”
I completely disagree with you. First off, it’s a fantasy book, and therefore you’re excuse of magic being impossible doesn’t apply. After all, vampires and shape-shifters are impossible aren’t they? Also who are you to complain about her thinking of using magic to go from one place to another. Last I checked apparating would have another more common name, known as teleporting, and at least saying it’s by using magic does it sound more reasonable. And the Floo Powder is ingenious, can you honestly say to yourself that you could have come up with an idea like that? It takes a highly intelligent person to think up of something like that.
And now to turn towards Twilight. You complain about magic being impossible, fair enough, but Meyers didn’t even bother trying did she? She did absolutely no research on her book. Especially on vampire anatomy. Vampires = Living Dead . Dead = No blood flow. Now think for a few minutes as to where I’m going with this.
Time’s up. See for a male to have sexual intercourse, blood needs to flow to his private parts. Getting it to, stand at attention, to say it in a not so vulgar way. Did she even bother contemplating this? Unless Edward was wearing nothing short of a strap on sex toy and injected Bella with a syringe full of semen while she wasn’t paying attention (which is 95% of the time) I fail to see how he could have gotten her pregnant.
Yes, Harry Potter is filled with magic, something that is impossible in our world. However I bet you, that even if someone was odd enough to try and impregnate a woman with a corpse, it wouldn’t work. (Just so you know, I’m being sarcastic. It is not a good idea for you to dig up some persons grave and grind yourself against them to see if they gain an erection. I’m pretty sure they’d die of shock if they weren’t already dead.)
I laughed when I heard Twilight being referred to as literary brilliant, you have got to be kidding me! The only amazing thing about Twilight is how famous it got for being unbelievably crappy. Harry Potter is way more creative, instead of creating a messed up vampire, Rowling created an entirely knew world alongside our own that has its own ministry, and currency, and sport. She also created an amazing school with secret passages and moving stair cases and many many secrets. Twilight doesn’t even compare to Harry Potter when it comes to creativity. Furthermore, Twilight is so dull and shallow. It doesn’t have a single plot twist and is very predictable. Most of The characters from Twilight are super shallow, they have no depth. Harry Potter characters are astoundingly complex. Each one has a backstory that makes them who they are today. Some have such surprising events in the past that it completely changes your perception of the character.
– Harry Potter teaches about the value of friendship and bravery. It teaches that love is more powerful than any other force. One of it’s characters ( I’m not mentioning who to avoid spoilers) walks willingly into deaths arms because he cared for the people he was leaving so much, this shows true bravery, loyalty compassion.
What Twilight teaches young girls:
– Women are useless without a man. Example A: Bella fell apart when Edward left her but was fine when Jacob came along.
– Women belong in the kitchen or cleaning and men are the only ones who work. Example A: NONE of the women in Twilight have jobs, not one. Example B: Bella lovingly cooks and cleans for her father while he drinks beer and watches football. Example C: Edward encourages Bella to go to a good college and study but she insists on staying home to cook and clean for the men in her life.
– Men should control every aspect of women’s lives, including who they are friends with.
And by the way, hot guys don’t make a book into a literary master piece. And science fiction is not supposed to be realistic. And don’t be talking about how Harry Potter is unrealistic because Twilight is harder tu believe. Really? There’s millions of vampires all over the globe and NOBODY knows about it? Yeah, right. At least wizards use memory spells and invisibility spells to hide their world from ours. Do yourself a favor and go read a REAL book.
Wow! If this is what the “Typical” teen girl thinks, then I fear for the next generation 😛 I really hope that everyone knows that this is a joke and not real! Harry Potter is better than Twilight!
Wow, how extraordinarily misinformed and poorly read you are!
there are so many things incorrect about what you said that i’m not even going to waste my time retaliating. however, i hate to burst your bubble but Edwards abs were painted on for the filming and Jacobs muscles were modified via computer graphics. Now in real life, yes one could debate that they are attractive but at least when Harry takes of his clothes, what you see is what you get (and in the 7th what you get ain’t all that bad)
Seriously? Twilight is literature? Wow, Shakespeare would be ashamed of you. There’s nothing original about a vampire falling in love with a human. How are sparkles awesome? And how is Harry Potter not original? How many stories have you read that have a character who doubles crosses the bad guys by pretending to double cross the good guys (Snape)? Also, Volturi ARE NOT villains; villains do not “talk it out” and decide that someone’s daughter is okay, so they just leave. No; villains kill and villains die. Death is natural. JK Rowling has the gall to show that war leaves people dead; that’s life. Get over it.
And hot guys? Seriously. That is not a valid argument. Thank you for proving that Twilight fans are shallow and choose the characters based on hotness. Is that why you read the book? And Harry Potter proves that love conquers all. I swear to God, you Twilight fans piss me off so bad when you say there is no love in Harry Potter. Does love only mean ‘romantic love?’ Do you not love your friends, your family? Do you love your friends and family in a romantic way? If so then, please get some help because you are two-timing everybody if you do that. Also, Twilight is not any more realistic that Harry Potter. I really don’t think if a bitchy, whiny Mary Sue were to move to a gloomy town where all these guys like her and she’s going to fall in love with a sparkly vampire. If anything, I think Harry Potter is more realistic because it deals not only with fantasy overtones, but also aspects of life that are present everyday in our world. War, prejudice, love, hate, death, misery, sorrow; yeah…
In case you didn’t know, Voldemort is an analogy of Hitler. And if you don’t know what analogy means, look it up.
The actors also suck in Twilight. Yes, even Rob P. Because he said himself that he didn’t like the script, the plot, or Edward. How could you do a good job if you hate the character? He did better in Harry Potter because he probably liked the story and his character. Harry Potter, on the other hand, has magnificent actors, some of which are very well known. Gary Oldman, for instance, was on Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead (great movie BTW.)
Helena Bonham Carter was on numerous Tim Burton films. Bill Nighy was on Pirates of the Caribbean 2 and 3 has Davy Jones, and Alan Rickman (need I say more)
So, your arguments are invalid because those are not valid reasons.
You cannot choose an actor based on looks because that’s their job; their job is to be a good actor. The fact that my two favorite actors are sexy is just icing on the cake, because they are extremely talented.
Oh, yeah, and is it okay to drop out of school to save two worlds. Harry didn’t go by himself; he went with Ron and Hermione. And in the wizarding world, they are adults by the age of 17. Get your facts straight.
Twilight is not timeless love; Pride and Prejudice, Wuthering Heights, and Romeo and Juliet are stories of timeless love and do not even thinking of comparing Twilight to them because Twilight cannot hold a candle to these classics.
Twilight teaches you that it’s okay to: completely disregard your friends for a boy, attempt suicide when he leaves even though you have a great friend who is helping you during your depression, leave your family for your boyfriend, completely depend on your boyfriend, let your boyfriend watch you sleep, throw away your future for a man, let your man rule every aspect of your life.
Yeah….
If you’re going to bash Harry Potter, please have valid reasons because these suck.
LMFAO OH MY. I don’t know where to start.
Creativity? my five year old niece likes sparkly things. she couldve thought up the idea if she knew what vampires were. magic has been with us forever. it may not be real but since we were kids magic ‘existed.’ and back to the creativity point. stephenie Mayer made up the volturi. and the stupid sparkly vampires. the only ‘creativity’ I think she had was in breaking dawn. jk rowlings creativity started in the beginning. the sorcerers/philosophers stone. and all of it’s powers. that alone is more creative than vampires. hogwarts. the houses. the subjects. the chamber of secrets and the basilisk. azkaban. dementors. quidditch and the positions and balls. triwizard tournament. VOLDEMORT. (ps rob patterson sucked as Cedric) so much more I can’t even say.
Kristen Stewart can’t act. at all. maybe she was good as Bella because Bella is onedimenstional. half of new moon was Bella crying. WAH EDWARD LEFT ME WAAAAHHHHH.
yay now I rewrote a better version of that crappy book.
LOLOLOLOLOOLLLL LITERARY BRILLIANCE?
omg. the books were good, not gonna lie, but they were nothing against Harry potter.
as a final statement,
Harry Potter>Twilight. forever.
First, when I read this, I couldn’t help, but talk in a preppy bubble-head voice. Like totally! Second, the only “high” points you mentioned for T*l*ght were how “hot” the characters were. A more average looking character would have been more relatable. Besides, the Bella character is weak(literally) and is a bad example of a woman. She’s the perfect example of a needy women who is inferior to her man. The characters are unrelatable too. I mean, how many girls have two guys continually fighting for her love? Also, T*l*ght promotes early marriage(eighteen is WAY too young) and it also makes it okay to have a baby so young too. And come on, a SPARKLING vampire? Oh, I’m soooo scared! A dude with a jacked-up face a wand? Now, THAT is scary!
Well, I would like to say your logic is flawed “like MAJOR!! OMG!!” No, but seriously, you say magic is unrealistic…well so is living forever bitch!!!!
Oh, and you know what else Twilight teaches us? That it’s okay to hit on a chick, when you yourself are 90-some years OLDER than her. I believe that is called pedophilism. And that it’s okay to keep FORCING yourself, especially when you’re a dude and have 8 times the strength, on a chick when she punches you for kissing her! That is called RAPE and is ILLEGAL!!!
You “Twilight” children people annoy the f*ck out of me!! I hope you all DIE in a burning pit of hell and see to it that you NEVER, and I mean NEVER see the light of day.
I’m totally sirius. (PUN!!)
I hate you ALL (except HP fans)
That’s HPprinter for you..GOOD NIGHT!!!
And have a happy super bowl sunday =)
Hahahaha! This blog post is all the lolz 😀
This is a joke right?
OMG are you freakin’ serious? Harry Potter is WAY better than Twilight! First of all, what are you thinking, saying J.K Rowling has no original ideas? She created Hogwarts, a whole new world, extrodinary characters, a REAL plot, spells, believeable languages, an entire history BEFORE the main date and setting, and the list goes on and on! What original stuff does Twilight have? Sparkely guys. EPIC FAIL! Plus, you can relate to the characters in Harry Potter. I’m not saying “Yeah, you can do magic and your parents can die by wizards and stuff….” but the things they go through are real; rivalry, friendship, heartbreak, school, relationships, family, ect…. And you grow up with the characters! You see them change and their lives go on! In Twilight, it starts with Bella moving. No background history at all! Also, character names? Wow, Twilight needs HELP! I mean, Mike, Jessica, Eric, Isabella, Edward, Alice, Charlie? REALLY CLEVER… not. Here are some ORIGINAL character names; Bellatrix Lestrange, Voldemort, Luna Lovegood, Xenophillious Lovegood, Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore, Draco Malfoy, Salazar Slytherin, ect, ect… I mean, when was the last time you met someone named Xenophillious? Yeah, thats right…. NEVER!!!!! And, what does Twilight promote? That its okay to let some guy contol you and not do anything about it, and that its okay to dump your friends as soon as you start dating someone new? Suuuuuure…… Even Robert Pattinson thinks Harry Potter is better than Twilight! He sad that he was sad that his best role ever had to die and hates playing the character of Edward. Another reason, there has been a whole movie dedicated to make fun of Twilight called “Vampires Suck!”. Yeah, you know you have heard of it! Has there ever been a movie made to bash Harry Potter? Didn’t think so! I could go on and on, but I don’t think I need to do any more convincing than I already have….. OH YEAH! HARRY POTTER FOREVER!
Another thumbs up to you.
Hey yo ppl! You are missing a vry important thing…
Harry Potter and Twilight DO have something in common
Both, Bella and Harry left school for something very important!!!
Harry left Hogwarts because he was the only one able te save the world and he really wanted to know that his beloved ones are safe…
Bella left college because she REALLY REALLY had to so she could have sex with a stupid asshole who left her and then came back like a superhero. I mean, lets be serious…. If you are not having a baby now with an IMORTAL sparkling shit, when are u going to?
PS. Dear sparkling shits, I think some of you may NOT be phedo but I really have a problem with Edward…
Nette
guys really, hp and twilight have somnething in coomon
bella and harry both left school
Harry for saving the world…
Bella for having a baby with a shit that left her
i mean, if u are not going to have sex with an IMORTAL asshole now, when are u goin to…. Jeez
epic
Love Nette
I wonder if, like, you have the brains to, like, read Harry Potter. And, like, understand it. Like totally.
I can’t keep typing like that. Anyways, you mention there wasn’t love in Harry Potter. Well, what about; Harry and Ginny, Hermione and Ron, Lupin and Tonks, James and Lily, Snape for Lily, and so on and so forth.
The major theme of the HP books is love… you dumbass.
Lily LOVED her son, so she gave her life for him. Voldemort can’t touch Harry because of Lily’s LOVE for Harry. Snape was a double-agent or triple-agent or whatever for Dumbledore because he LOVED Lily and was willing to risk his life to protect her son, whom he also hates.
Hmm. So. About that point where you mentioned HP has no love. You’re stupid.
Also. I love how everyone says Twilight guys are hotter. For one, that implies that Twilight fans are vain and simply care about the looks of the guys. Two, that’s not even a valid point.
Three, Robert Pattinson is quite possibly the ugliest person I’ve ever seen. Four, Taylor Lautner kind of looks like a dog.
Oh please don’t flare. She’s only kidding. It says so on the top.
You got it all wrong. J.K. Was one of the best writers in the history of awesomeness. Have you
Even tried reading the books?! Well you really should, before you start saying twilights better! Twilight SUCKS its about a slutty girl that wants to have sex with some very hidious monster that wants to suck her blood! Hp has a much better story line and isnt repeating itself in each book. And it actually flows together as if it was one huge fat book. So yeah might want to try and read it before you start judging it.
Wow. Have you READ the Harry potter series? Those ridiculous plans? That’s called a plot which some twilight fans wouldn’t recognized if it danced in front of them and slapped them in the face. J.K rowelling has no creative ideas? She created an entire world! With it’s own sport and government a books and newspapers and celebrities! You call this a love story? Being obsessive is not love! He watched her sleep! Get over yourself. And as for up encouraging violence Harry hates the idea of killing someone! Meanwhile what did Edward do when he and bello had sex? Beat her up! Idc if it was intentional she wasn’t even upset! Twilight is also not realistic at all and I’m not referring ton the stolen vampire concepts. HP has three-dimensional characters with life stories and struggles and hopes and dreams. Ooh Edward had to try and not eat people. Big fing whoop. Ever heard of severus snape? That’s a real character not someone so plain and boring that any breathing teenage girl can relate to. Harry potter is amazing and when twilight fans see the light they will never go back. Btw has a twilight book ever made you alight. No. I didn’t think so
I would thumbs your comment up if I could. It’s not serious though. She was trying to capture the attention span of an average teenage girl who is shallow.
I would just like to point out that if you type in twihard in word it corrects tonwizrd. That’s eight even Microsoft likes us better.
Are you freaking kidding me!?!?! you think Harry Potter is full of angst and depresion!?!? I have two words for you. New Moon. Bella is completly depressed through out the ENTIRE movie because she doesnt have her boyfriend with her. It says that girls can’t survive without guys. And Stephanie Meyer took something that used to be cool and turned it into something totally gay and *Sparkly*. J.K. Rowling made characters that we love to love and love to hate. J.K. Rowling created a whole world by herself. Stephanie Meyer writes like she took out a thesaurus and changed all the little words to big ones.
I agree completely. How can she call Harry “whiny and angsty”? He was only like that in one book, and he had a good reasons. Whereas Bella was constantly complaining about everything in each book. I mean… come on.
Seriously, this article is so hilarious.
I find it funny how I can picture Harry Potter’s awesome adventures, seeking justice, bonds of friendships, principles, bravery, intelligence, and a lot more, and compare it to “a sweet story of love forever”. OMG! I can’t stop laughing.
You didn’t even dig right into the deepest of Harry Potter stories and movies.
Harry Potter has influenced a generation!! They even have a Walk of Fame and a theme park.
Harry Potter proved that vampires don’t sparkle.
You’re so funny, dear. Crucio!! Crucio!! Haha ~
am I the only one that read the top? The article is a joke poking fun at twilight just like the rest of the website
I want you to give me ONE GOOD reason why Twilight is better than HP! ONE! Other than “Pattison is hot.” and “Lautner has abs.”
One good reason why would you go against Stephen KIng’s comment that S.M “can’t write a darn”. PLease one reason that’s all i ask.
If you give me that reason i will understand this whole Twilight thing.
Now really, this is some sh!t! I can’t even believe anyone would say that Harry Potter is a bunch of dung! In lots, and lots, AND LOTS, of aspects is HP better than Sh!t– oh, I mean, Twilight. If I were to divide it all according to the aspects (and I mentioned lots of ’em) it would still not be enough for you, I suppose. I am, at least, going to contradict some fine points of your post.
*It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.
First part: No, they did not hunt Voldemort, they tracked down and destroyed his Horcruxes (i.e. materials containing a fragment of a person’s soul).
Second part: They didn’t go with an adult because some of the only adults they have are dead, or something else (like Lupin’s lycanthropy, and Mr and Mrs Weasley’s unavailability because of their children).
Violence is totally cool.
Um, no, it isn’t, unless you’re talking to Voldemort, who would think it would be more than lovely to kill you.
Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.
It’s not. The character deaths in HP are really deep and emotionally provocative. I cried when Cedric died. He was such a nice person, compared to the f*ck he is now. I cried when Sirius, Fred, Lupin, Dumbledore, Dobby, and Tonks died. They were really a part of the story, it musy be really painful for JKR to just go and pick them off. As for Smeyer, however, she never did kill any character, in fact the part when Bella was almost ran over, I really hoped that she would die so that this Twish*t would end.
Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.
Harry wasn’t a jerk to his friends. Sure, he is imperfect, he even had a temper tantrum in OotP. If you think it’s a little unfair for his friends that he would bitch from time to time then try to put yourself in his shoes. Of course you’d really accuse your friends of “not getting it” because it’s just too hard to imagine yourself with a maniac behind your back.
It’s okay to escape from jail.
No it’s not, but if it were Azkaban, I’d be amazed if someone still chose to stay there.
Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!
They didn’t trust it because they knew there were a lot of Twitshi– I mean, Death Eaters behind it.
It’s okay to break the rules.
Well yeah, it is. There wasn’t a rule saying “DON’T YOU FUCK*NG DARE BREAK THE RULES”
It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.
yes. There wasn’t a rule for that either, but you’d probably end up with a nasty curse scar on your ass and your life in Azkaban.
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Ha Ha. i’m still wiping tears from the corner of my eyes from laughing.
i mean, seriously?
all you can say is that twilight is ‘a timeless tale of love, then love lost and found again” i mean what the f**k?!
twilight sucks, get it into your head. this article proves that through and through. i mean how many of us would want to read a story about some sicko aged a hundred years plus, falling in love with a seventeen year old, and then not even having sex with all there desperate loving. it’s such an irrational tale! bella is so blank, she doesnt even have a character. it doesnt have a plot. it doesnt have anything, really. its just trying to show that girls cant do anything without a guy in their lives. all bella knows is “Edward, Edward, Edward.” big deal the guys good looking! it doesnt mean you have to go that loony over him. exactly what i’m saying. twilight gives people a wrong impression of what girls are really like. look at elena from vampire diaries or even hermione granger. they dont have to have a boyfrind to prove themselves. hermione’s smart on her own.
you’re saying that harry potter teaches violence?! too bad you have a weak stomach and cant handle a little bit of killing. death is real and you cant avoid it by turning into some irrational ‘sparkling’ immortal. that’s exactly what jk’s trying to show and what meyer is avoiding. edward is a lunatic sicko who is too afraid to die. face it. and honestly, i’ve read the entire twilight saga so you cant blame me for not knowing the story either. i’ve read it and its shit.
harry potter is better cause it has a plot. has real characters with flaws that makes them believable (nothing like your perfect cullens who make me wanna puke). jk isnt afraid to kill the good guys. that’s what gives the novel depth, something sthephenie will never learn.
bottom line: Harry Potter rocks. Twilight should go to hell.
totally get the sarcasm. love what you’ve done. i apologize from all the people who commented thinking that you’re actually meaning what you’re saying. 🙂
nice article. it gave me a good laugh.
and for the record:HARRY POTTER ROCKS!!
TWILIGHT SUCKS!!
I really can’t tell but once I got to the end it seemed serious. I left a not too harsh comment with no cursing and my opinion. I love the name by the way!
Okay, if you don’t mind, I’m just gonna go ahead and explain why the things you pointed out about Harry Potter aren’t bad things;
“It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.”
-Harry had to kill Voldemort to protect his friends. And him and his friends were 17 at the time, which in the Wizarding World means your an adult, so they didn’t need an adult with them on their trip.
“Violence is totally cool.”
-I don’t recall J.K. Rowling ever writing anything about violence being “totally cool.” If anything, she stresses the dangers that come with violence. The villains in Harry Potter are seriously evil, so they’re not just going to sit there and do nothing. J.K. made the villain so evil and violent so the reader could connect to how scared Harry was and how important it was for him to brave.
“Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.”
-This was another thing J.K. did so the reader could connect with Harry’s pain. How would you like it if you had to watch your god father get killed right in front of you? J.K. killed off many people who were close to Harry s that it would become even more important for Harry to defeat Voldemort.
“Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.”
-Okay, if the darkest wizard of all time was planning a million different ways to kill you so that he could take over the world and you were pretty much the only one who could stop him, don’t you think you’d be just a little stressed and bitchy? Ron and Hermione really didn’t get it. Voldemort didn’t kill THEIR parents. Voldemort wasn’t killing off people THEY loved left and right.
“It’s okay to escape from jail.”
-1. Sirius escaped because he was wrongly convicted in the first place, and even when he escaped, he still wasn’t free. 2. Bellatrix and her husband escaped because they’re evil, and if you didn’t know, evil people do that kind of stuff…
“Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!”
-I’m pretty sure you would reject your government too if it was corrupt and completely wrong.
“It’s okay to break the rules.”
-Don’t you think defeating a wizard who is basically committing Genocide is a little bit more important than following the rules?
“It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.”
Delores Umbridge? She was a crazy bitch. Snape? Harry was convinced and had reason to believe he was a Death Eater.
Seriously. Read the series before you make shit judgments.
THANK YOU!
WONDERFUL :’)
ok i’m adding to this six months later but I don’t really care
Yes, I am ANOTHER harry potter fan who doesn’t agree with your argument and since there are so many reasons why harry potter is better below, I won’t bother adding more
One thing I have to admit though, stephanie meyer is a TOTAL GENIUS…I mean, she managed to control the minds of MILLIONS of air headed teenage girls all around the world from a stupid dream! I don’t think she’s talented at writing at all, and she has NOWHERE NEAR as many fans as rowling…but she’s had the previlige of having her books actually COMPARED with hp…she must have done SOMETHING right.
and also, hp fans, I know we LOVE our books (especially the heart-throbbing house elf!) and harry potter is almost a way of life for me…but seriously, EVERY SINGLE twilight vs harry potter has this–> every time a twihard says their biased, untrue opinion, we hp come and just CRUSH THEM…and it’s not very nice. can’t we just leave the air head teenagers/middle aged wives with nothing to do be? let them have their sparkly girly statues, their whiny stupid useless dolls and their short tempered shoved-to-the-side pet dogs. These people don’t DESERVE to step foot in hogwarts, but cut all the hate! my best friend is a fan, and sure we have our disagreements, but she’s great anyway.
What I’m trying to say that if you TRULY love harry potter, and you want to tell it to the world, why are you commenting here?
p.s.the author of the original post–> you should know that hp fans OUTNUMBER you completely, so I wouldn’t post this on the internet unless you want to get insulted and bullyed by the lesser of us. If you love twilight, go and find some twilight fans and discuss some totally untrue things about hp…no one will mind if they don’t hear you. Just don’t do it on the internet, because like I said, you could get cyber-skewered
p.p.s. i don’t really blame you hp fans for having a go at her, after reading this article-it’s pretty tempting…but resist and think–> what would jk rowling think if she saw this is how your using her books? to attack twihard? do you think she would think ‘ha they’re on my side!’? Didn’t think so.
love
Dobby xx
erm…this is a joke…so the best pro-twilight I’ve seen was a joke…now that just speaks for itself
whoa whoa whoa! did you say a “timless” classic? the books were realeased one right after the other unlike harry potter which was released over a very long period of time (so long it kept all fans in suspense.) the story itself is based on what, 2 years? and harry potter? 7. 7 outstanding books. 7 outstanding years at hogwarts (reading of coarse)
Love lost love found and also you cant live without your love. thats what twilight teaches. if your a teenage girl you cant live without a boyfriend. harry potters love stories are many and realistic. Ginny can live without harry, hermione puts horcruxs before ron. everyone can date other people before they realize that their true love is right there.
Original ideas!? wtf do you think the book is based on!? Quidditch!? Hogwarts!? she came up with her own government for crying out loud. what did meyer do? “extreme” baseball…oooh. Forks high school…yeah really original. the voltri? they are cowards who hide behind others just to get what they want and they cant even get it. the ministry of magic is very orderly. as for the creatures? at least rowling uses them right. edward-sparkely fairy. jacob-shapeshifter. uh, no. sorry ild like my boyfriend to be noble and honorable, not obsessed with me and super cocky.
-drop out of highschool: no it does not!!!! thats apart of this aperantly non-existant plot. it teaches you to follow whats right even if its hard.
-the orphan thing: hes actually human! he has flaws! well so does the twilight characters but there wasnt supposed to be cuz you know its every girls dream to have a monster for a baby and live forever cuz you cant live without your phsyco stalker.
-everything else: did you even read the Harry Potter books? cuz… you just make no sense. im sorry but…no…im not sorry. cuz you chose to believe that everyone gets a happy ending and everything works out in the end which is what twilight teaches. Harry Potter teaches that you have to WORK for what you want, WORK for the Greater Good <—(HP reference :)) you cant back down cuz its hard and you cant turn into a zombie just cuz you bf leaves you cuz its for your own good then turns around and tries to commit suicide cuz he thinks your dead. the characters with flaws are the ones that i wanna connect to, not ones who want everything and get everything they want just cuz.
Robert P? we had him first. no i did not rewind just to see him. i mean he WAS better in Harry Potter but hes really not that hot unlike Rupert or Daniel or even Tom Felton.
Taylor? psh! he was better as sharkboy, and that was when he was, what, 13? point is he ruined his career by doin twilight.
(laughing so hard at this one) Kristin? really? the chick has one facial expression through the whole SERIES. Emma Watson had more expression in the Sorcerors Stone alone. I wont even START on the Deathly Hallows. she has more acting skill than kristen.
The killings? they are realist in a war. in twilight the war consists of one death: a very pointless character. its almost like meyer thought, "ooh ill kill HER, thatll take em for a spin." no. no. if i was ever to meet meyer i would laugh in her face and tell her how i feel. she doesnt deserve what she has. Rowling does. she wasnt afraid to actually kill some good characters. it took the fans on an emotional journy.
At least the Death Eaters arnt afraid to kill whenever. The voltri only kill if they have a reason. thats not villinous. thats just cowardice.
In conclusion, the brilliance is with Harry Potter. Meyer would be lucky just to be in Rowlings presence. (Meyer cant even read her own hatemail. i see where the book gets its cowardice) If the question of if you could go into one book or another arouse, Harry Potter would be the best choice. You would get brought into a world not like your own. twilight, the story is brought to you cuz its just a bunch of up mythical creatures that meyer botched up. Harry Potter would be an amazing book to go through. man i wish there was a theme park or something to go to…o wait, there is! i should go to twilights to see what its like..what? there isnt one? go figure.
I also wish there was some parody of harry potter that could go hand in hand with the series…o wait there is. A Very Potter Musical. Whats twilight got? Vampires Suck. (fitting name)
Im sorry this is so long. Its people like you who give me a good thing to pass the time. Yes i have read the twilight series. honestly, i used to like them. but then i was shown the light. I read harry potter before so i was always apart of that. twilight will always be inferior to harry potter.
ild like to point out that if you ever aare bore, type (any search engine or even youtube) twiligh is better than harry potter. you wont find much, its all Harry Potter is better than twilight. true story. look it up.
If there is any other stupid comments you would like to make, please feel free to comment so i can tell you off again. yours truely, MajorHP Fan.
Ok…. here it goes,
Harry Potter is, and will always be better than Twilight.
Reasons why:
1) JK Rowling is WAY more creative than Stephenie Meyer. Rowling created a seperate world of magic that included a new sport, new towns and creatures that are unlike anything that is in real life… where as Meyer used a real small town in Washington, ok I’ll give it to her Meyer was capable of creating a hot male boyfriend (Sooooo creative).
2) Harry Potter teaches you:
– standing up for yourself
– not being prejudiced towards anyone
– keeping hope in dark situations
Twilight teaches you:
– that it is perfectly ok to turn suicidal if a guy dumps you
– that a relationship based on looks alone is perfectly healthy
– flirting with another guy when dating another is fine
3) The Harry Potter movie cast is WAY better than Twilight’s. I mean HP has Oscar winners and nominees (ex: Richard Harris, Ralph Feinnes, Helena Bonham Carter and thats not nearly all of them). Kristen Stewart and the rest of the cast of Twilight can only dream to work with them.
4) Voldemort is an excellent villain, you can trace influences from real life people (ex: Hitler, Stalin). He embodies hatred and can no longer feel love at all.
ehhemm now that’s that
Umm, Harry Potter has a plot.
If you would get yourself a brain and read the books instead of watching the movies, you would know that.
You say twilight has love, but thats how Harry lived dear(:. And (Spoilers) Ron and Hermione, Harry and Ginny, Tonks and Lupin, Bill and Fleur, and lots of others fell in love.
( I know this is used a lot ) When Edward left Bella, she curled up in the fetal position and cried, then commenced to do dangerous stunts to have hallucinations. Rather mental, if you ask me \:.
When Ron, on the other hand, left Hermione, she cried when she thought Harry was asleep, and continued to assist Harry in defeated the person who:
-Killed his parents
-Is the reason his inspiration is dead
-Made his life living hell
-And tried to kill Harry whenever he could.
Now, if a person was after you, trying to murder you so that they could have power, what would YOU do?
And J.K Rowling has wayyy better imagination than Stephenie Meyer.
Ever heard of the famous person named Stephen King?
His exact words:
“Both Rowling and Meyer, they’re speaking directly to young people. … The real difference is that Jo Rowling is a terrific writer and Stephenie Meyer can’t write worth a darn. She’s not very good”
Also, I never cried once when reading Twilight, considering I used to be a Twihard like you. But, I’ve cried (not bawl my eyes out, but tears) at least three times reading Harry Potter.
-When Dobby died
-When Sirius died
-When Hedwig died
-When Dumbledore died
Then there are other deaths like Tonks and Lupin that made me saddish\:
But Dobby’s death was depressing.
I think the only time I smiled at a death was when Bellatrix died. That bitch got owned.
Challenge me or any other person that actually has their head screwed on right, and I’ll give you more examples on why your post in incorrect.
(I have nothing against Twilight, I just dont like it and you bashed Harry Potter, saying that Twilight was better.)
“Twilight is a timeless tale of love, then love lost and found again. It shows how love can get you through everything. It’s such a sweet story about the things people do for love, like Bella goes all the way to Italy to save Edward from the Volturi, for instance.” Twilight is not a timeless tale. It’s a teen phase. Believe me, timeless tales are definitely more like Harry Potter. Twilight is not about what people do for love, because normal people in high school don’t go to these lengths. And sometimes, you need more than just love. You need communication and a strong sense of commitment. Bella goes to Italy—I would totally go to Italy for a boyfriend! I’d love to go! And people save each other all the time in Harry Potter. Look at Lily—not only was she prepared to die for Harry, but she and James actually DID. The thing about Bella is, she never really gets harmed. It’s not a good message to send, that love can get you through everything. Pro-love is good, and Harry Potter is pro-love, but you can’t blindly rely on ‘love’ (which is often simply hormones in your teenage years. This is statistically proven). If you rely on love, at least rely on more than just your boyfriend.
“Also, Twilight is MUCH more creative, I mean, Stephenie Meyer created a new kind of Vampire, instead of just using a stereotypical, Dracula type Vampire. I mean, they sparkle, how awesome is that? Plus, they’re MAJORLY hot instead of being creepy. And the werewolves aren’t your typical “full-moon-flesh-eater” type. It shows that Stephenie Meyer is actually creative while JK Rowling has no original ideas at all.” You cannot imagine how much I want to hit you right now. The insult you have just made…you’ve obviously never read Harry Potter. Stephanie Meyer created a ‘new kind of vampire’, and her werewolves aren’t typical? Sparkling men is not awesome. And making every character ‘MAJORLY hot instead of creepy’ is just stupid. It takes away conflict and promotes the moral that beauty is more important than whats on the inside. She didn’t even reinvent vampires. All she did was make them attractive and sparkly. And the writing is very uncreative. They go to a normal school and live a boring Forks life. You are extremely ignorant and offensive when you say J.K. Rowling has no ideas. SHE CREATED A CULTURE! She made up an entire school system, with unique classes and spells. She reinvented wizards! She created villages and robes, drinks and candies, an entire SPORT, books and magical creatures (and wrote a book about said magical creatures)! She uses diversity of every type, and made rich and poor people, governments, and even newspapers! How does she have ‘no original ideas’. This had never been done before. There are tons of teen-romance-vampire-human love stories. And for your information, lots of people are drawn to supernatural/vampire novels because of the dark, dangerous creatures (or, as you put it, the ‘creepiness’).
“Twilight is just so sweet and romantic, a fabuous, timeless tale that will likely be around forever. Harry Potter is just a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters, and has no plot. TWILIGHT 4 EVER!” ‘NO PLOT’!!!!!!! Are you insane! There is intense plot, with subplots and clues. Mystery, action, romance, and more! Twilight will not be around forever. It’s just a teen craze. Harry Potter is much more successful and has been around for an extremely long time already without losing its popularity. The fact that people of all ages love Harry Potter might be a clue that even as the generations pass, it will be handed down as a classic from parents to children, aunts/uncles to nieces/nephews, teachers to students, and read aloud as a family or listened to on tape in cars all over the world. You would never read Twilight with your family.
“Also, Harry Potter teaches you:
• It’s ok to drop out of school” As opposed to just repeating it over and over again. Bella wasn’t going to go to college for some time anyway. Besides, Hogwarts was taken over by Death Eaters, so it’s not as though the year Harry, Ron, and Hermione missed would have taught them much. Besides, do you see how much Hermione cares about school? Her level of commitment to her education is enormous, and only her desire to help the world and her close friendships keep her from going back! and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything. Of course they didn’t bring an adult! Who would they bring? Give me one person who didn’t have a family to take care of, or students to watch. They were legally adults, by the way, though. So technically they did ‘go with an adult’. And is it okay to run off to Italy on short notice without ‘an adult or anything’? Harry was the only one with the capabilities to stop Voldemort, so he did what he had to do.
• “Violence is totally cool.” Have you read the series? Obviously not. The only time they use violence is in self defense. And Twilight has violence as well! They battle a whole ‘army’ of newborns. Everything Harry Potter stands for is pro-love and pro-good morals. Violence is stressed as something that Voldemort does. It’s actually saying that violence is WRONG.
• “Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.” Death does happen all the time, especially in war. There will be casualties. Twilight is completely unrealistic in this manner. It makes the ending unfulfilling because there is no loss to make the characterse stronger and to help them face realistic circumstances. Death happens all the time. You will die. I will die. My parents will die. My siblings will die. Everyone on this planet will die. And I believe in heaven. Hopefully, death is just the next great adventure.
• “Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.” Harry was feeling very emotional. Answer me honestly: If your parents were dead and you were just a teenager, and your friends were making comments that hurt you (even if they didn’t mean to) and made you feel vulnerable and angry, would you say they didn’t get it? They DON’T get it, obviously. But they’re still there for Harry, and Harry is there for them. And if you want to talk about being a jerk to your friends for bad reasons, you could take a look at Twilight. Her boyfriend dumps her and she blows off her friends completely for months. At least Harry’s PARENTS DIED! That’s a much bigger deal than having your boyfriend break up with you!
• “It’s okay to escape from jail.” Once again, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Sirius was innocent, so yes, it was okay for him. He faced down the most awful nightmares imaginable, and he was innocent of any crime. It’s not saying that a common criminal is justified in escaping.
• “Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!” Don’t be stupid. The reason that they rebelled against the government was because it was WRONG and infiltrated by bad guys. Were the people in Germany who sheltered Jews ‘wrong’, and did they have bad morals because they were ‘rejecting their government?’ Obviously not. They were actually RIGHT. Besides, didn’t the U.S. have a Revolutionary War against our former government? Revolutions happen all the time. They are happening now, as we speak. Look at Egypt and Libya. It doesn’t mean go ahead and trust your government. It means trust your conscience first. If the U.S. started telling you to hand in everyone who was Muslim so they could be executed, would you ‘trust your government’? Hopefully, this will never happen. It’s completely hypothetical.
• “It’s okay to break the rules.” Sometimes it is. See above paragraph. When the rules conflict with personal morals, yes, it is okay. And the Cullens broke rules. It’s called the speed limit.
• “It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.” If you are standing up for the truth and what you believe. See above two paragraphs.
I’d also like to point out that what makes Harry’s story so lovable is partly the fact that they succeeded in the face of a much stronger enemy force. They were outnumbered, and they suffered casualties (like in ANY WAR), but they managed to succeed and bring in justice and light. The Volturi weren’t even toppled in Twilight. Can I mention that if you are saying this about Harry Potter, you’re opening up the window to all of the Twilight judgements such as ‘Twilight encourages teen marriage/sex/pregnancy, says it’s okay to be unfaithful, living without your boyfriend is impossible, paying attention to friends is overrated, because after all, boyfriends mean everything!, damsels in distress will always get a hero…and more.
“And seriously, the books are also all depressing.” No they’re not. Because they’ve got this little detail called HUMOR that Meyer missed out on. It adds quite a lot to any books. “Lots of good characters die, which isn’t cool. And they’re just full of violence, and ridiculous plans.” See above war analogies “Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible. And there’s no way you could seriously just “apparate” dissappear and reappear somewhere else. And if you tried to hop in a fire to go someplace, “Floo Powder”, you’d burn your face off. It’s just crazy, whereas the scenarios in Stephenie Meyers Twilight series are more realistic and likely to happen.” Are you crazy!!! If wizards can’t exist, neither can vampires! If there can’t be Floo, there can’t be werewolves! It’s fantasy! It’s orginal! It’s SUPPOSED TO BE UNREALISTIC. The key is, in writing fantasy (and acting), LIVING TRUTHFULLY UNDER IMAGINARY CIRCUMSTANCES. The thing that makes Twilight so awful is how absolutely unrealistic the characters and ‘fights’ are. There is so much more depth in Harry Potter.
“Also, Twilight has:
• Robert Pattison, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!” I actually can say ‘hot’. I have a vocabulary much more advanced than that of the average three year old. And personally, I disagree. I think he’s ugly and unhygenic. But even if I disregard that, I’d like to point out that beauty is only skin deep. It has nothing to do with plot and story and writing and originality.
• “Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?” Yes I have ‘SEEN those muscles’, and I know that they’re digitally enhanced. So far, all you’re coming up with is how ‘hot’ the guys are. That doesn’t make me feel like Twilight is better at all.
• “Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.” Emma Watson is a much better actress, and in the majority opinion of my class (I took a survey) she’s a lot prettier and better than Kristen Stewart. Have you even read the Twilight books? All you’re giving me is how great you think the actors are.
• “The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters” Wow. This is just really dumb. The villains in Harry Potter are exciting and intense, and range from clinically insane to narcissistic to cruel to anxious and not that enthusiastic. The Volturi lack creativity. And they’re in cloaks too, by the way. They have no personality. You have to give Rowling credit for coming up with amazing villains. Meyer…not so much.
“Harry Potter isn’t all bad, I mean, they DO have:
• Robert Pattison as Cedric Diggory. The ONE thing the producers got right! Don’t even try to deny you don’t rewind just to watch his scenes again!” It’s not the ‘one thing’ they got right. I mean, look at the amazing cast and special effects of Harry Potter. Twilight special effects were criticized by reviewers all over. I actually don’t watch his scenes over again just to see him. If I rewatch any scenes he’s in, it’s because I care about the plot.
• “Lucius Malfoy. Hot, even for an older guy!” That is kind of creepy. He’s not attractive. And is looks the only thing you care about? That’s insanely shallow. All you can talk about is physical attraction. You’re just reinforcing the ‘shallow teenage girl’ Twilight stereotype.
“And that’s about it. Seriously, you want QUALITY literature and movies, watch Twilight. I mean, I don’t HATE Harry Potter or anything, It’s just like, NOTHING compared to the literary BRILLIANCE that is Twilight.” Not true. It’s not quality literature at all. The writing is, all things considered, pretty darn bad. Twilight just isn’t at all ‘literary BRILLIANCE’. Everyone, even Twilight fans, say that it’s not meant to be incredible writing. I’m sorry, but everyone knows Harry Potter is quality literature. It’s just the universally admitted truth. It’s basically a classic. They read it in schools as course books. Honestly.
This page made my day. 😀
I found a facebook page with “100 reasons why Twilight is better than Harry Potter” & I couldn’t believe how people could be so ridiculous & that is why I stumbled upon this.
Anyway, I am going to respond to all of those 100 reasons personally. Because I enjoy dissing Twilight. It isn’t very hard to do. The sparkling vampires help. A lot. Like a lot a lot.
Anyway. We have a theme park. Nuff said.
Ok, this list freaking sucks. Twilight a story of love? I don’t think so. A story about a girl addicted to the most unrealistic guy on earth. A forced relationship. A monster child. Incest almost. Good people die in the Harry Potter books. Yeah. THAT is realistic. Kristin Stewart…to be an actress you have to have actual emotions. And no, pouting for about an hour and forty five minutes doesn’t count. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVMjGUIJ9rM Copy and paste this link. It’s true. The girl who made it doesn’t like Harry Potter or Twilight.
Harry Potter has no PLOT??? and the stephanie meyer werewolf is not “new”. jk rowling made animaguses before that which is basicly the same thing.
I’m sorry, I can see that you read the Harry Potter series, but you clearly did not understand it.
For one, it does not tell us that its fine to drop out of school, it is part of a plot and being realistic, would you, after reading that book decide to go and do that just cause Harry, Ron and Hermione did it?!
Death is no big deal?! When Sirius died it was like the world ended! In the battle of Hogwarts when everyone is getting killed it is very sad and at the end, they are all layed out and everyone is mourning over them…you clearly missed that part.
It is not okay to escape from jail. When the mass break out happens, the Ministry goes crazy about it and try their best to assure their people and catch the prisoners. Yes, they don’t do a very good job of it, but how better would you be able to do, whilst facing up to 70 dark magicians who will kill for the sake of it! Bringing me onto your other point…
Don’t trust your government? Well I’m sorry, but would you trust your government if they were being controlled by Voldy and his gang, cause I wouldn’t!
Onto your other stupid point about breaking the rules and shouting at teachers, I think you’ll find that they don’t tolerate it and give them detention.
Also, Harry Potter has robert patinson in it, in the 4th movie he’s there and dies.
You really cannot compare Harry Potter to Twilight as they are soo different. One deals with vampires and werewolves and the other deals with wizards. Both are unrealistic, so please do not slag off Harry Potter telling us that it is very boring and unrealistic when Twilight is in my opinion very boring and also unrealistic.
JK Rowling is an amazing writer and wrote the Harry Potter series in the 90s and it is still around. Twilight was only written in the early 2000s and yes it will be around for a long time, but please have the curtusy to not say that Harry Potter won’t be around for long, because it will be, there is no doubt as it is for all ages of readers whereas Twilight is only for teenage girls..I wonder why? Oyea, cause there’s vampires that sparkle like a baby unicorn!
haha omw this is all sooo true!
If you mean the article is true then you’re just as stupid as the person who wrote it.
Normally I think people are entitled to their opinions…but I was not aware that anyone could actually be this that stupid. This is ridiculous and laughable.
Reading this story just made me almost cry from laughing XD And all you commenters, you’re absolutely right. Harry Potter is, was, and always will be better than Tw!l!ght! I was brought here by one of the Tw!l!ght haters on MLIT. Incidentally, he, I, and some others are plotting a plan to defeat the sparklepyres. If anyone wants to help, go to the #2 Top Post in MLIT! But anyway, in all seriousness, can you guys please take a look at the top of this page? This entire site is actually a joke to make fun of the Twi-hards, and this Preppy Gurl chick is actually just a troll!
I can’t tell if the girl who wrote this is trolling or just really stupid. You’re kidding, right? Twilight teaches that if your girlfriend dies you should kill yourself too. Have you even read the Harry Potter books? I read Twilight and threw it out the window the second I finished. Twilight also teaches that you are nothing without a man and that if a person ignores you he is in love with you. And I think the facts that Stephen King hates Twilight and loves Harry Potter is enough to see which is better. And if you are seriously basing your literature tastes based off of how sexy someone is, you are not a fan or a reader. You are a cult. Just like Twilight. In case you haven’t noticed, there is a REASON there are only reasons why Harry Potter is better then Twilight. Cuz it is. Now if you’ll exuse me, I’m going to go plan my trip to the Harry Potter amusement park. Are you planning yours to Twilight’s theme park. OH wait. You guys don’t have one.
I honestly hope you’re joking. Harry Potter just beats Twilight 100%.
All that I have got to say is, if you’re serious, go get some help.
You know what? Fuck you. Just fuck you. If you think twilight is a ‘literary brilliance’ then you must be retarted. First of all, Harry Potter has no plot??? What the fuck is that all about. Twilight has not plot! All they do is stare at eachother, and all Meyer does is descrbe Edward’s “beauty.” The whole story is so stupid and cliche! And the last book built up to be some great climatic moment and ended in epic….conversation. LAME. Bella is a Mary Sue who ant think for herself and depends on her boyfriend for everything. All she does is cook and clean and look pretty. That’s so sexist!. Don’t even get me started on the movies. The worst acting and special effects I’ve ever seen! You are being so shallow, all you care about how hot the characters are. You’re just a stereotypical Twihard. Excuse me…Twitard. I’m going to address some of the points against Harry Potter now.
•Ok so for the first one, he was forced too, he had no choice or everyone would be dead. And he’s the chosen one so no adult could do it for him! It was in the prophesy, he was the only one who could kill him.
•And where in the book did it say he WANTED to be violent? It’s a fucking war. You’re going to have to fight. And there was plenty of violence in twilight…if you call “dancing” violence. It’s so dumb the way meyer described it.
•Ok if you were an orphan and you’re parents were murdered, wouldn’t you be pissed off? And when was he a jerk to his friends? Besides the 5th book, he was a jerk for good reasons though, he saw cedricdie, and barely escaped from voldemort with his life! I would b depressed if that happened to me!
•When did it ever say it was ok to escape from jail?? Plenty of death eaters escaped and that’s obviously not a good thing. Sirius Black did escape, but he was innocent.
•Fucking voldemort took over the Ministry of Magic!!!!!!!!!!!!! They didn’t believe Harry when he said he was back!!! And they were publishing stories about him and dumbledore about how they were crazy!!!!!
•Its okay to break the rules IF YOU’RE TRYING TO SAVE THE DAMN WORLD.
•If you’ve heard, or read, some of the things teachers said to him, you would be pretty pissed off. And he was punished for it anyways.
Yes. Vampires and so called werewolves are much more realistic. Besides, it’s fiction. It’s not supposed to be realistic. And meyer should have killed a couple of the main characters off! It makes you more emotional and attatched to them. Harry Potter has illusions to historical events, like the Holocaust. Voldemort wanted the world to be pure blood, just as Hitler wanted a perfect race. All of your reasons are shallow and petty. Harry Potter goes so much deeper than that. Twilight isn’t even about love, at most it’s lust. Do you want an abusive stalker boyfriend??? Harry Potter is about friendship, loyalty, love (real love!), doing what is right, facing your fears, good vs. evil, and the list goes on and on. JK Rowling wrote it beautifully, and your passing up a literary gem here.
“Harry Potter is all about confronting fears, finding inner strength, and doing what is right in the face of adversity…Twilight is about how important it is to have a boyfriend.”
And ps, your name “preppy gurl” isn’t helping anything I bet u you’re just some stupid 13 year old girl.
Do you have any idea how stupid the things you just said are? Does your teeny tiny mind comprehend that life is about more than hot guys? Harry Potter teaches us to fight for what we believe in, whereas Twilight teaches us how important it is to have a boyfriend. Why don’t you rethink your views on everything, if you find the best thing about Harry Potter to be how hot Lucius Malfoy is.
Harry Pottert never EVER gives the impression that death is okay! They accept that it happens, because it does! And it “has no plot”? It has more than enough to be a good read and have a smashing video game! Honestly have you even read it? If so how can you say that! “it’s okay to skip school to go after a murderous maniac without an adult.” they are legal adults! Stop being an idiot and basing it on the movies! They give the book no justice! Even to twilight!
“don’t trust your government, in fact just go ahead and reject them completley reject them” “volturi are relistic villians, unlike voldemort and the death eaters.” you do realise that the volturi are the vampire government! And Edward trying to Reveal himself as a vampire is “rejecting the goverment”. The volturi are not villians! And let’s compare hitler ( who you agree is a villian right?) to voldemort. They both killed “impure blood” and seemed people to help him on this quest. And what about the characters? They are mor deep than ” hi there I’m beautiful.” or “hi there I’m evil.” or ” hi I’m also beautiful.” Harry Potter makes you care for the characters, and you can watch the grow or fall apart. And the deaths make them change or grow be it good or bad. Sparkling vampires? Yeah it original but it changed the perspective on how the world views vampires. Change for the worse. Edward, face it, is a creep! If you heard this. ” Oh a 103 year old man watching a 17 year old girl, but he looks like a 17 year old so it’s okay.” there is noone is like that in HP. And stalking of any kind is not okay. And why does Bella love him? Oh because of looks? Oh and also the mysterious dangerous side? Okay. And Edward Bella? Oh she smells good? Okay. Don’t judge a book by it’s cover look in the pages when you want to judge. “magic is impossible” well being a sparkling vampire and a giant man bear shapeshifting werewolf is impossible.
Oh my god. i love these people. i had no idea that SO MANY people would rush to the defence of Harry Potter. ripped the article apart nicely! Preppy Gurl should really get a life.
HARRY POTTER IS THE BEST!!
So… because Stephenie couldn’t figure out how to make the story work with real vampires that makes her creative. And clearly it’s ok to be in a creepy abusive relationship with a controlling older man while getting married right out of high school to get pregnant.. OMG so that’s what I’ve been doing wrong…
Does your mommy know that you’re blogging online? It’s dangerous for naive little children to be online without supervision.. Lots of totally creepy people on here…
Here’s to my sincere hope that this is satire.
If it is, I have to commend you for your accurate portrayal of a 12-year-old girl.
Doll that was painful to read.
Much more creative? I don’t even…
You know, I could argue points for hours. But.
I shan’t.
guys hve u lost ur heads, seriously harry potter is 1000 times better than some creepy old love story rotates only around bella, wel its oky bt nt better thn da very own Harry Potter, twilight saga is only a love story, where JK rowling uses love, adventure, fun, comedy , fight, torture , every aspect in da story.
and da story is so predictable,,
no fence but this article is so ridiculous i want 2 vomit al over it, da reason so idiotitic, tht nobody here likes them, go find some real reasons, we all know there arnt any so settle 2 da fact tht harry potter is 10000 times better than twilight shit.
can’t tell if trolling.. or just very stupid.
I am a Harry Potter fanatic, and I shall respond to your blog post in the nicest, most logical way possible.
Harry Potter literally DIED for his friends and the people he loved. Once he found out he was the 7th horcrux, he walked straight into the Forbidden Forest and sacrificed himself to Lord Voldemort without even fighting back. HE DIED. Oh, Bella went all the way Italy to save the boyfriend who left her, you say? Big whoop.
I do agree that Stephenie Meyer was quite creative in making a whole new kind of vampire with superhuman senses and strength. And they sparkle. Yeah, I guess that’s cool too. But when you said J. K. Rowling had no original ideas, I just wanted to punch my computer screen. Let me name some of the things that J. K. Rowling came up with:
Hogwarts, the Ministry of Magic, all of the departments for the Ministry of Magic, owl post, Lumos, Expelliarmus, Ridikkilus, Protego, Reducto, Stupefy, Imperio, Crucio, Avada Kedavra, Reparo, Accio, (I’m just gonna stop naming all the spells cuz there’s too many to name), Polyjuice Potion, Felix Felicis a.k.a. liquid luck, mandrakes, hippogriffs, grindylows, Quidditch, etc., etc. Need I go on?
Harry Potter is absolutely NOT just a “mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters, and has no plot.” If by “crazy”, you mean “creative”, then yes. If you mean the totally-unusual-and-absolutely-amazing kind of bizarre and not the weird-freaky-and-unrealistic kind of bizarre, then yes. If by “weird” and “freaky”, you mean “unusual, but good”, then yes. But don’t you tell me that Harry Potter has no plot. Honey, that’s where you CUH-ROSS. THE. LINE. I’m a Potterhead, and I’ve read Twilight, but do you see ME running around and saying that Twilight has no plot? NO! Would you like me to tell you the plotline of Harry Potter? Probably not, because I bet you’re too lazy to read anything that long.
And now I contradict your list about what Harry Potter teaches you.
“It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.” Well, if YOU were being hunted down by an extremely murderous guy who took over the government, wouldn’t YOU drop out of school? And Harry went with Ron and Hermione, and Hermione is practically an adult already with her brains.
“Violence is totally cool.” Harry Potter does NOT teach violence! They only use it to defend themselves! Since when is THAT wrong?
“Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.” J. K. Rowling isn’t saying that “death is no big deal.” She’s saying that you have to accept that death is a part of life and not to chase immortality.
“Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of ‘not getting it’.” Since when is Harry a jerk to his friends?? Hmm, let me think . . . . . Nope, can’t think of anything. The only times they really ever argue is when Harry’s friends want to help do something dangerous. But sometimes, Harry just wants to do things himself because he doesn’t want to put the ones he loves in the risk of danger. Is there anything wrong with that?
“It’s okay to escape from jail.” Sirius Black escaped from jail because HE WAS INNOCENT, and he needed to go catch the Peter Pettigrew, the one who actually accused the crime.
“Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!” Well, when the government is corrupt and wrong or BEING TAKEN OVER BY A CRAZY MURDEROUS PERSON, would YOU trust them anymore? Tell me, WOULD YOU?
“It’s okay to break the rules.”
Some things are more important than following the rules. Saving the world for example?
“It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.” Umbridge was a B*TCH and Harry thought Snape was a freakin’ Death Eater! (and he had good reasons to believe that)
Saying that ALL of the books are all depressing is a complete exaggeration! Yes, it is depressing when lots of good characters die, but that’s just what makes it more realistic and interesting and it adds a whole other level of emotion. When you’re in the middle of a huge war, people die.
When you say “they’re just full of violence, and ridiculous plans”, I can’t tell if you mean “they’re” as in the characters, or “they’re” as in the books. If you mean characters, not all of the characters are “full of violence”. The bad guys are violent cuz, well, THEY’RE THE BAD GUYS. And Harry and his friends are only ever violent during their fights with the Death Eaters, which don’t take up a majority of the books. And they’re plans are not ridiculous. They’re clever and ingenious. If you mean books, how are the books FULL of violence? The big fights only ever take up, like, 50 pages, AT MOST.
Wow. Just WOW. “Magic is impossible”??? YOU’RE SUCH A FREAKIN’ HYPOCRITE!!!! SPARKLY VAMPIRES WHO WATCH YOU IN YOUR SLEEP ARE JUST ABOUT AS REALISTIC AS MAGIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!! *takes deep breath and calms down* And being a little unrealistic (ex. magic) is what make the book fun and interesting!
So WHAT if Robert Pattinson is hot?? So WHAT if Taylor Lautner has big muscles? ANYONE WHO ISN’T SHALLOW DOESN’T CARE ABOUT HOT CHARACTERS!!!
Realistic villains don’t talk out their problems. Realistic villains kill people to solve their problems. Does anyone disagree?
I deny that I do not rewind the scenes with Robert Pattinson in them to watch them again. Do you know why I’m denying this? Because it’s true. I DON’T rewind the scenes with Rob Pattinson in them. He’s not THAT cute. And you know what?? Even if Rob Patttinson wasn’t in Harry Potter, at least the movies would still have a PLOTLINE. At least the movies would still be good compared to the books. Whoever made the Twilight movies totally messed it up. The books are much better.
So, remember kids!: The majority of Twi-hards have NOT read Harry Potter and can not give a legit argument. Harry Potter pwns, peace OUT!
Oh god.Twilight HAS violence.I mean,have you SEEN the movies?Bella got cut and blood went everywhere,Twilight teaches °You can skip school because your a sparkling freak °Violence °You can leave your own girlfriend in the forest alone °You can just yell at anybody you want °It teaches you how to become a freak °Its hard to masturbate to(My friend made that one up!XD) Twilight also has freaky characters like Edward for example,he sparkles and is pretty,PRETTY UGLY.The only good things Twilight has is °Taylor Lautner is soooo fucking sexy °The girl who plays Jessica is super sexy. Harry Potter is a beautiful piece of work that teaches you to be imaginative with your ideas!While Twilight is a piece of shit.
Um……you’re basing the books on what the people look like not the actual book.
like twilight is good because it has robert and taylor cuz their hot?
Harry Potter is all about confronting fears, finding inner strength and doing what is right in the face of adversity…Twilight is about how important it is to have a boyfriend.
I think i can write 100 reasons why HP is better without bringing up the looks of the actors which is something you failed to do.
This is definitely a Harry Potter fan making a joke. The grammar is much better than a Twi-hard, and twi-hard wouldn’t know THIS much about the Potter series.
I’m sorry,but WHAT THE HELL. I know there are already many good arguments as to why this article is just plain idiotic, but i need to voice my opinion;
here we go;
“Also, Harry Potter teaches you:
It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything.
Violence is totally cool.
Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.
Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.
It’s okay to escape from jail.
Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!
It’s okay to break the rules.
It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.”
the trio didn’t drop our of school to hunt voldemort, they were forced to leave schoolbecause Harry was an ‘undesirable’ and if he was seen, he’d be taken to azkaban/voldemort because voldemort had infultrated the ministry, they were not hunting voldemort, they were looking for horcruxes so that they could defeat him, and the reason harry said no the remus for help was because remus was trying to run away from his problems. good on harry for standing up to remus.
violence is also shown within the twilight books you know…
death is a big deal, but it does happen all the time, of course it does, someone dies every second of the day you know. when sirius died, harry blamed himself, it was a Massive deal for him, in the 7th book, harry didn’t want any more people dying for him, he gave himself up to voldemort so that no one else would die, it was another MAJOR deal.
What? of course they wouldn’t get it, neither of Ron’s or Hermione’s parents have died, so yes, Harry may be a jerk to them for a short while but then he finally snaps out of it and is greateful for the fact he has his two best friends to help him.
It’s okay to escape jail? of course its not, but Sirius black was wrongly put into Azkaban, without a trial, he spent 12 years in there while having all the happiness drained out of him from the dementors, it was horrible in there, and it was a good thing he escaped because Harry reallyneeded a positive parental figure in his life, someone he could trust. Sirius helped him realise that, and i quote, ‘we’ve all got a little bit of light and dark inside of us, what matters is the choices we make’, he said this when Harry was worrying that he was becoming like Voldemort. Where is the good motivational speeches in twilight? there may be one, i don’tknow, i havn’t read those books for a few years, you find me one and we’ll talk.
You realise that they were rightly justified not to trust the government? they had the facts to back up the fact that voldemort was infultrating the ministry, of course they wouldn’t trust it! But they do not reject it completely, instead they use the ministry to try and fight back, they gave Fudge plenty of oppurtunities to help fight, but he was so corrupt already it was useless.
It does not teach you that it is okay to break the rules, many times Harry got detentions because he broke the rules, do you see all HP fans going around breaking rules? i highly doubt people have been influenced by these books to break rules and yell at authorities. Which in fact, Harry should not have done (yelling at ‘authorities’ e.g. Umbridge), and he knows that, and McGonagal reprimands harry for as well, but Harry is not perfect, and he loses his temper sometimes, especially when someone is calling him a liar and saying that someones murder was an accident. Yeah, you’d yell at them too.
“Also, Twilight has:
Robert Pattison, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!
Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?
Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.
The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters”
So the only good thing about twilight is that the actors are aparently hot… hmm…
in my opinion, kristen stewart had about as many facial expressions and tone changes in her acting as a lamp post.
The volturi are realistic villians? you realise they wear cloaks too, and they aren’t really villians, they just get annoyed at the cullens because bella, a human, knows of their existance, they are more so the ‘authorities’ within the vampire world than villains. Voldemort however, is a villain, he kills innocent people, he goes after harry upon hearing of the prophecy just so he doesn’t get destroyed, he splits his soul into 7 parts, he doesn’t have any friends, just servents and followers, death eaters. the death eaters, too, are villains, bellatrix lestrange tortured Neville’s parents into insanity, lucius malfoy ‘accidently’ gives ginny voldemorts diary in order to kill harry, Greyback is a PROPER werewolf who purposely positions himself near children in a full moon so he can create more werewolves. and of course they are insane, they’re crazy villains, they have to be insane.
“And the werewolves aren’t your typical “full-moon-flesh-eater” type. It shows that Stephenie Meyer is actually creative while JK Rowling has no original ideas at all.”
If you read the twilight books, you would know that Meyer actually called the ‘werewolves’ shapeshifters, because they change into wolves at any time, Rowling has real werewolves in which Remus Lupin transforms at a full moon. Of course Rowling has imagination, if she didn’t HP wouldn’t exist.
“Twilight is a timeless tale of love, then love lost and found again. It shows how love can get you through everything. It’s such a sweet story about the things people do for love, like Bella goes all the way to Italy to save Edward from the Volturi, for instance.”
Harry Potter is about finding strength to fight your fears, love, persistance and courage among other things. What bella and edward have is a kinda scary, stalkerish love, i mean, edward watched her sleep… and he’s over protective of her, not trusting her enough among Jacob’s crew. He even told her she smelt good and he wanted to drink her blood… lovely… Harry however, broke up with Ginny because he didn’t want her to be targeted by Voldemort, and he knew he’d have to leave her if he was going to defeat V. (and btw, Ginny didn’t go into how many months of depression and suicidal thoughts because Harry left her, she gained even more courage and bravery and stood up against the Death Eaters within hogwarts because she is not a pathetic wuss…)
Bella only went to Italy because she couldn’t stand the thought of living without her stalkerish boyfriend, talk about sexism.
“Harry Potter is just a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters, and has no plot”
Harry potter has no plot… harry potter has no plot… how is it a story? how does it have 7 books? how is it that things mentioned in the first book and brought up again in the last book? Severus Snape’s love for Lily and hate for James? Sirius Black? Remus Lupin? Hagrid’s story? Dumbledore’s history? Voldemorts history? honestly, i cannot even begin….
“And seriously, the books are also all depressing. Lots of good characters die, which isn’t cool. And they’re just full of violence, and ridiculous plans. Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible.”
Yes the books are depressing, but only to older people, young kids can read Harry Potter and get more involved with the magic side, but when they reread the books again when they’re older they can delve more into the psycological and emotional feelings within the book. Of crouse it’s ‘depressing’, Harry has to die in order to kill Voldemort, he lives with abusive family, BUT he experiences magic, friendship, love, loyalty, bravery, and happiness throughout the whole book. Magic is impossible? Sparkly vampires are impossible. Shape shifters are impossible. Creating a half vampire/half human baby is impossible. that didn’t stop Meyer, so it sure as hell wouldn’t stop Rowling. Lots of good characters die, OF COURSE, how boring would the story be if every good character lived? I honestly hated the fact Sirius Black died, but it helped move the story along, it was a good twist in the plot, i hated the fact that Dobby died, and i hated the fact that Mad Eye, Remus, Dumbledore, and even Lily and James had to die, but how boring would Harry Potter be if they didn’t die?
You have your point of views, I have mine, and i must say honestly, next time you make your argument, bring up proper points and facts, not just stupid opinions with no evidence behind them.
Aww, see, now I have to hate you with a fiery passion and PROVE YOU WRONG.
1. I can see why Twilight appeals to some people. It’s a little bit of mindless prose chock full of cheesy romance. Kinds reminds me of a hormonal, dumbed down Jane Austen or the like.
2. Love found lost and found again? How about a mindless adoration turned to friendly indifference to suppressed emotions to sudden realization to inane jealousy to passion to submittance to protection to moving on to despair to embracement? Beat that!
3. Out of love, Bella went to Italy. Out of love, Harry sacrificed his life to a brutal enemy. What is your problem?
4. Stephenie Meyer didn’t bring anything really new to the table. I used to love vampires. They were brutal, harsh creatures with a sort of dark elegance unable to suppress animalistic urges who are so riddled with darkness they can’t bear even to face the sunlight. Meyer’s version? They sparkle and can go vegetarian if they feel like it. Werewolves are normal people with horrific, painful, uncontrollable mutations that appear once every full moon, when they go out of their minds and have no control over themselves. Meyer’s version? THey turn to perfectly docile animals whenever they feel like it. It defeats the whole point. J.K. Rowling created an entire freaking universe, not just a handful of characters. Rowling created spells, places, enemies, friends, a government, a battle. Meyer created the good guys and the bad guys. Rowling brought old myths into the present in a charming and whimsical way without it seeming cheesy, a real feat. Meyer plucked some ready-made, well-known and popular creatures and shoved them into a cliche love triangle. Rowling used Latin, old, almost unheard of mythical creatures, and amazing, believable, memorable characters with depth.
5. You say it’ll be around forever, huh? Sorcerer’s Stone was released in 1997, over fourteen years ago, and it still has a huge fandom devoted enough to keep an amusement park so full they have to shut it down most afternoons as it’s reached mass capacity. Twilight has a book and some movies. It’s a classic. I, for one, am proud to say I was alive when this came out. It’s like having been there for Alice in WOnderland or Oliver Twist. There will always be a kid turning 8. Twilight is already being replaced; by Maximum RIde, by Hunger Games, by Percy Jackson… Nothing can rival the timelessness of Harry Potter.
6. It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go with an adult or anything. He’s not a “crazy, murderous maniac”. He’s a cold, calculating, ruthless villian who isn’t foolish in the slightest. Harry did this because he knew it was the only way he could save the rest of the Wizarding World; Dumbledore told him so. School was being taken over by the enemy. It wasn’t safe anymore. And you’re missing something pretty freaking important: If Harry had tried to go to school, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ARRESTED.
Violence is totally cool. Self-defense and protection of those you love is totally cool.
Death is no big deal, and happens all the time. That’s true. It may be a hard lesson to learn, but Rowling is trying to convey the acceptance, the normality of death. It can be horrible and normal. Rowling’s mother died when she was young, and she wanted to teach important life lessons in a sort of roundabout way. It’s her way of showing children that death is inevitable, and fearing it is pointless. It’s a very profound, wise idea.
Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends and accuse them of “not getting it”. He never said that. And maybe he does sort of imply it, but you know why? Because Harry’s not perfect. Unlike most main characters, he’s not loyal and brave to the pont of perfection. Harry has his flaws; that’s what makes him believable.
It’s okay to escape from jail. You mean Sirius? Sirius was driven mad with mourning of Lily and James, furious at the traitor who had caused their death, and desperate to meet the last remaining link he had to Lily and James. Sirius was pretty much crazy. Everyone else who read the series got that, knew that what he was doing was out of his desperate hope that he could escape from that hellish, inhumane place where one happy thought was impossible
Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely! THe government wanted to imprison their savior. It was being taken over by the enemy, and they knew that for a fact. What did you expect?
It’s okay to break the rules. It’s okay to break the rules when it’s a part of something much bigger than yourself, something that could save lives in the long run.
It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures. Another one of Harry’s affectionate, believable flaws. When he knows someone is evil or foolish, he has no respect for them. He has no respect for Lockhart, a blubbering imbecile. He HAD no respect for Snape, someone he was convinced was a Death Eater. He has no respect for Cornelius Fudge, a leader to nervous and cowardly to admit there was danger and act against it.
7. The good characters die to show that no one is safe from death. She’s not afraid to sacrifice them, because she knows it will make Harry a better person and be good in the long run. It adds depth to the plot.
8. Apparating and magic isn’t possible, but vampires and werewolves are. Oh, that makes so much sense. It’s a freaking fantasy series. Not being possible is the whole point.
9. What do you mean, “freaks in cloaks”? They all wear cloaks. EVERYONE WEARS CLOAKS. You sound like Aunt Petunia. I love the Death Eaters, actually. I think they’re a surprisingly deep bunch of villains. They are so obsessed with the idea that they are superior to others, they’re willing to kill to enforce that. Bellatrix, driven near madness with a passion for ruthless murder. Lucius, a figurehead, there only to intimidate and to inspire fear. Voldemort, a perfect, intelligent manipulator. The Volturi aren’t like that.
9. SInce when did the actors playing the characters being hot make a book good?
10. You’re calling Twilight ‘quality literature’? ‘Literature: Written works, esp. those considered of superior or lasting artistic merit’. That’s HP. It uses profound ideas and themes, provides a dose of reality with its childlike whimsy, enchants with the idea of something impossible and integrates it seamlessly into a whole world, references other literature, inspires and amuses. Twilight? Well, it sparkles. It holds a fake, shimmering illusion of brilliance that quickly fades into the mundane.
okie! freakazoid! first off all! twilight is not even close to being realistic!!! |
u r jst such an insecure person! like dude!! twilight is blondd!!
love isint only between a guy and a girl! love can be between parents friends etc!
nd biatch!! u dont think harry potter is sweet?!
LILLY DIED TO SAVE HER SON!
twilight is the one that dosent have a plot!
JK.rowling is bloody brilliant!
where as stephanie meyer! hell! that lady is crackkk!
nd no sweetheart! going to italy ! dude! thats no big deal!
nd yea! the gd guys die!! that happens in real life sweetheart!
life is not jst abt dating
hot guys , getting knocked up and falling in love with a guy in like a day!
bella bloody dint even noe edward!!
wat BS!!
twilight dosent even come close to harry potter!
ps! the twilight series are bad!
I don’t believe I have ever seen such a load of horse****. Harry potter has no original ideas? JK Rowling came up with all of the spells on her own, the characters names are full of puns and plays on words, the storyline if efficient and closed, and shows thorough planning and lots of thought. The only thought stephenie meyer put into twilight was that first dream, and since she was unconscious that wasn’t thought at all. Oh, and there have been many love stories about love lost and found and lost, and finally found for the last time. Just read Nicholas Sparks if you don’t believe me. Those books show quality of writing, thorough editing, and publishers who want more than just to make a quick buck. The characters such as Dobby, an elf who works as a slave and cannot be freed until he has handed clothes – how often have you seen that one? Voldemort is a noseless villain who truly does not care for the lives of others, has slowly grown less human with each passing day and bad deed, and his name means flight of death in French. There was also said to be an historic evil wizard named Voldermortist who was often called the Dark Lord. Far from showing lack of creativity this reuse of the name shows respect for the legend and depth of research to find a perfect name. The research stephenie meyer may or may not have done led her only to forks and voltages, and no further. There was no research done into the characters, the plot, or the storyline. So… Harry Potter is far better than Twilight because more thought, effort, research, creativity, editing, writing, and sheer superiority was put into it.
It is an insult to Harry Potter to even compare it to crap like Twilight. ‘Nuff said.
i totally agree that twilight is beter than hp. lyk, d hp fans r sooo mean! they keep on insuling stephenie! Wat is their prob! i mean, ok, may b they r stupid enough 2 lyk dumb ‘wizerds’ carying thin sticks in they’re hands n yelling their heads of, bu that does nt mean they hav 2 insult us twihards! TWILIGHT IS AWESUM! it is d best n only saga i hav ever read! i mean, did u SEE edward or jacob? i read d story when i was 11&hav lost count how meny tims i hav read it since. twilight is timelesssssssss! it shall b round 4ever!!! but hp? It is full off crasy ideas n weidr frecky chracters. Bella is sooooooo cuet n adoreble! She luvs edwrd more than her life&can do anyting 4 him! She luvs renesme n Jacob n charlue n renee n so many others! How can u say tha it is ont abt luv!!!???!!! & u can nt acuse her of lusting 4 edwrd. i mean, lyk, he is gorgious!! HOW can u resist his flowery scent? Or his ocher smoldring eyys?? Or his papr white skin? i dont blam her. if i had a bfried lyk edward i would kiss him all day!!! Comprd 2 tht bella does so well!! And edwerd is soooooo sweeeeeeeet!!!!!!!! he is d sweetessst guy i knw. he luvs bela soo even if his throt burns when he is kising her. Wat a big sacrifice. It hurts him every momen he iss wid balla bt he still luvs her!! bella is my roll model! i want 2 grow up &b lyk her &find my own edwrd n naem my daughter rennesme!! Renesme is such a cuuuuuuttttteeeee name!! n haryy poteer is so tacki!! it sounds so ‘hairy’ & ‘pot’ head ed. And wat is d name of d big oldie dumbldore? all i knw is just such a long name….ewww. + stepheny is so pretty &amazing! Her writting is compltly flawles. She cn make me laugh n cry n hold my breath. while jk rawilng is just so weird!! Her chracters mak no sense at all!! N wat is tht hermyne girls prob? she is so bossy n not cool at all! Lrn from bella, hermyne. Steph was inspired from an immortal story lyk romieo n juliet n wat did jk get inspired from? The back of a sereal box? i wouldnt b surprzed. i hav nt actually read hp &i dont want 2. my friend keeps nagging me abt it. she can go on n on abt how awesum n amasing hp is n she was d one who receomended twilight 2 me in d first place. now she reading hp over n over n she hates twilight n she wants me 2 do d same. i’ll never bettray twilight lyk that!! danile radcliff is so ugly! He looks naked without d hp, nerdy glasses. where as rob is so hott!! esp. when he sparkles!! why would u chose ugly over pretty? It doesn’t make any sense! N all d hp fans i know r such nerds! they get better marks at everyting! N d worst part is i’m surounded by twi-haters. i’ve tried to get em to listen but they wont!! how mean n not nice!! all d hp movies r so dull n gloomy n sad!:( i cant watch em 4 more thn 5 mins! they’re that broroing! n it took em sooo much tym 2 make d movies. Wat’s d point? they end up gloomy aither way! twilight is d best!! TWILIGT 4 EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i luv u, edwrd!!!!
By, TwilightForever.
PreppyGurl, your reason that Harry Potter sucks is that it teaches us to ditch school, but do you remember when Edward would ditch school ALL the time to go take Bella places? Or to go hunt poor innocent creatures? YEAH next time you’re going to put up some proof make sure it’s not a bunch of bullshit.
late/early aprils fools? or are you a troll in the dungeon?
Dear writer of this article.
I would like to tell you that your information on the Harry Potter series is factually incorrect and that the argument that you have decided to create is very, very, unfair.
The main message the Harry Potter universe is trying to send out to this terrible, violent place we call Earth is that love for your dearest friends and family, as well as strangers is a valuable trait that humans have and must remember to celebrate.
Harry and his two best friends are of a legal, adult age when they leave the Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry. This means they had the right to go, on that topic, many older adults (Remus, Bill, Arthur, etc) knew what was happening at the time.
Harry is against violence and always tries his hardest to stop it. This is why he chooses to disarm is opponents instead of hurting them.
The truth about the deaths is that is does happen all the time, everybody must die. Harry, however, is trying to save billions of people, as are those fighting along side him. This is an important factor is the books, that you seem to have overlooked.
Harry Potter is an orphan, as are millions of people in this world. Even though his thoughts sway to his parents, the only true time I can think of when he said his friends didn’t “get” it is when he was an eleven year old child who had been peering into the mirror and was intrigued by it’s magic, as many others were.
Harry does not even go to jail. He is, in fact, searching for the evil Death Eaters whom have escaped. He know that they must be punished for their wrongdoings , this too is a large theme of the book.
The ministry in the book is corrupt. The Order of the Phoenix knows that it is taken over by Voldemort. So, they stride to make the government safe again. This is in books number five to seven. As well, this is how Voldemort took over the world.
Many rules are broke in this series. I agree that while broken rules add chaos and disorderly behavior, the rules were broken to save lives, and heal the world. Besides, didn’t Edward and Bella brake the rules by being wed?
Shouting at teachers, in the series, only happens in times of pain and peril. Harry would not usually run to Severus and shout at him. This is proven many times in the books.
Robert was cast as Cedric a great deal of years before the Twilight saga was shot for the silver screen. The acting, I, as an actress, know is horrific. The only “good” acting is done by the end credits when the movie is complete.
Sexiness of the actors has nothing to do with the story line, it ruins the reality of the world the story is set in. I would say that the actors and actress are not very good looking anyways. They are unreal and stereotypical.
Lord Voldemort is a much more realistic bad person. He is trying to represent that racism is not right and has no care for who Harry dates. He is a clever man who will do anything to rule the world, much like Hitler was.
I do hope that you conceded little mind will one day learn that unreal romance and looks are not important, as Harry Potter taught myself.
-CallMeLunaLovegood
p.s. Harry Potter has been around since the 90s, Twilight is from 2005, more people have grown up with Harry Potter, as have I, because I read the first three books when I was eight years old.
p.p.s I am thirteen years old currently, and have read and watched both series, but readily know in my heart and mind that Harry Potter is clearly better.
You must be joking. First, Meyers is more creative than Rowling? Ok, Meyers created a new kind of vampire and ‘werewolf’ but Rowing created a new WORLD full of different creatures(ex. Dementors), new language (ex.muggles, mudbloods), and just a whole new universe. Second, what harry potter teaches you is about unity, about the importance of friends and family, courage, not about the reliablity of a boyfriend. Third, as if twilight is more realistic than harry potter. Come on, vampires and werewolves do not exist. Fourth, if we’re going on looks here, the actors who play Ron Weasley, Draco Malfoy, Harry Potter,Fred and George, plus others are very handsome men and let’s not forget Hermione Granger (Emma Watson) who is a gorgeous woman. May I add that they can all act. Fifth, the literature of Twilight is nowhere near the brilliance of Harry Potter. Ask Stephen King.
This article was a joke, you guys…can you not see the giant disclaimer at the top of the page? What idiots in the comments section… The author is obviously a HP fan writing satirically.
….are you on CRACK!!! look i…ermm…actually no i don’t really like twilight. It’s okay but it’s NUH-THING compared to Harry Potter. Never ever ever ever EVER compare Twilight to Harry Potter. Comparing those two together is like comparing Nicki Minaj to cup cakes (oooh both are epic wins btw ^____^). Honestly the Lisi Harrison Clique books that I read in Middle school have more depth and creativity than friggin Twilight lol. Look by the time Breaking Dawn Part 2 comes out on DVD Twilight WILL die >:D. it will be something of the past. How do I know that you ask? Eclipse came out on DVD in Dec (i liked twilight at that time but i wasn’t stupid enough to say it was better than HP XD) no one has even brought twilight up in a conversation since then!! lol. get over it twilight WILL die. endless my ass. it will be the next *NSync. Eventually, all the stars will separate and do their own thing. Harry Potter on the other hand will reign! i can already see all 7 of of the HP books on the shelves of my future kids public library 10 years from now and i’ll tell them “lol i used to read those books all the time” and they’d say “eww mom what’s a lol” and i’d make a face like ಠ_ಠ.
I really don’t know my feelings for Twilight. I hate it so friggin much yet it’s okay to me at times. The books are garbage though but the movies to me are like comedies. The casts akwardness is HYSTERICAL! and making loud commentary during the movies is so much fun. for example during Eclipse Bella said “and you…why didn’t you call me back” and I shouted. “WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSED WITH ME!?!!?”–Mean Girls. also in Eclipse Kristen Stewart had a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE weave and I shouted in the theater “You got a Crenshaw eave hoe!” –Natalie Bad Girls Club.
all in all Twilight is annoying because it’s dumb and it’s dumb because it’s stupid and it’s stupid because it’s confusing and it’s confusing because it’s annoying. Vampires don’t sparkle in the sunlight they DIE. Rob and Kristen are awesome (not because of Twilight because of The Runaways and Remember Me) Pretty Little Liars and Harry Potter ftw and you are an idiot 🙂
-Alexis ❤
No plot? Are you an idiot? J.K spent years planning out her books and creating a storyline. And Stephanie Meyer? The idea for a novel about sparkling vampires and emo teenagers came to her in a dream. And just because a movie has aesthetically pleasing characters does NOT make it any good.
that’s wrong! Stephanie Meyer DID HAVE a university degree in English literature! stop bashing HER.
that’s wrong! Stephanie Meyer DID HAVE a university degree in English literature! stop bashing HER. she may not be great as J.K. Rowling, but her English is good. i see her writing by reading it. she was original because her dreams are a inspiration for her when writing her novels. this is how writers use their imagination.
I’m sorry, but twilight just re-enforces that 1920’s view on women. that they are nothing without a man. whereas Harry Potter shows that in order to have a happy life, there are things that must be sacrificed.
okay i have no idea how i stumbled on this but i feel that i need to leave a comment even if others have done so before me.
first off Twilight is a book filled with stoic characters (characters that don’t change) whild J.k’s book is filled with characters that change with age. Twilight won’t last because all it’s about is how important it is to have a boyfriend while Harry Potter is about much more then that.
second on your things why HP sucks: 1. it does not promote dropping out of school. It was a necessary thing to do in a war. Oh and they didn’t need adults since they were adults. 2. it was war. it is not promoting violence. 3. Death does happen all the time and you would do well to learn that and learn how to deal with it. HP is basically saying to not fear death because there is nothing to fear about it. (greet death like an old friend). 4. on one hand they don’t get it so its okay to occasionally break down…there is nothing wrong with that especially since he has to deal with everything but he only lashes out on occasion. Harry was never a jerk to his friends and he did his best to protect them. 5. just because Sirius escapes from jail does not mean that it’s promoted. 6. don’t really trust anyone completely because they’ll just let you down (even your government). 7. don’t you see Harry and his friends get in trouble for breaking rules? (think it’s not illegal yet). 8. it doesn’t promote this however you should always question them (they don’t know everything after all).
Also for a good book to be…well….good, characters have to die otherwise it’s a fanfiction type story and generally isn’t very good. If a character doesn’t die during a war then it would be terrible.
Oh so magic is impossible but “vampires” and shape shifters aren’t? explain that one to me.
all your reasons for why Twilight is better is all vain. It makes it seem that the only reason that you like the books/movies is because the actors are attractive.
How are the Volturi realistic villains exactly? They don’t really do anything to the Cullens. While the Dark Lord actually kills Harry’s parents and many others and attacks Harry on multiple occasions the Volturi just come to attack the Cullens but then all they do is talk. How is that a real Villain? Is it because you don’t like people to get hurt? Well face the facts sunshine but people get hurt.
Harry Potter is a story that will last forever because its about finding friendship and family even when you thing there is nothing left for you.
While Bella sits at home and sulks when Edward leaves Ginny starts the DA again and goes against the evil that has attacked Hogwarts when Harry leaves her for her protection…now who is the better person?
Honestly I feel there is no hope for you…and my parents wonder why i feel that there is little hope for our generation.
Ur completely wrong bout alot of this stuff. And maybe some people like the unrealistic. U CANNOT deny u hav nvr wanted to escape real life. Harry Potter is a billion times better. I like both serieses but i stand by Harry Potter all the way
“The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters” I agree! Yeah. Realistic! Don’t give us those freaks in cloaks. . .
http://api.ning.com/files/V8G4IeCt7Tw0yqlaRT5LnK7Ym8TGRGuPEximkUNn0PMIkjT5pPVv8t9-204Y–Vg/AroVolturi_16thcbyhimself.jpg?width=269&height=399
. . .We can’t have that.
Hermione read Twilight. Guess why Robert Pattinson’s name flew, burning, out of the Goblet of Fire?
Answer: She was trying to burn it. Maybe that’s why you think R. Pattz is so hot!
This is probably the worst article I have ever seen. How could you have the audacity to say that JK Rowling has no original ideas at all? I don’t notice Meyer coming up with a game played on broomsticks, objects that can make one achieve immortality, objects that can make someone the master of death… Twilight has sparkly vampires and werewolves. Harry potter has werewolves, animagi, inferi, veela, ghosts, merpeople, giants, and countless other mystical creatures, most of which are enhanced by giving them backstories. When you say HP is just a mashup of crazy ideas and bizarre things, you are wrong. It’s basically many ideas that end up showing that love is more powerful than anything, that greed and hatred is not going to get you anywhere, that fear of impending death is not something that should linger in one’s mind. The series personifies death, treats it like it is just a creature who takes you to your next destination. It shows that we should not take life for granted, and that there are many fates worse than death. The reason Lord Voldemort is such a great villain is because he is a power hungry maniac who will do anything to make sure there is no one more powerful then him, to ensure that only purely magical people should live, and to live forever, which is a violation against nature. He may be extremely powerful, but he will never know love and doesn’t learn from his mistakes. The series shows that people need to accept mortality.
It makes me laugh out of sheer pity that you are dumb enough to criticize Harry Potter for the fact that it involves magic. You’re the one obsessing over the series about the sparkling vampire! Niether of thestories are realistic by any means. Potter creates a beautiful universe. It’s called fiction. It is basically astorythat uses magic and mythology to express the fact that loyalty and bravery conquers betrayal and fear. It is ok to go after a maniac if your life depended on it! The Order of the Pheonix and DA have to resort to violence in order to defeat a man who will ruin the world, and Harry, Ron, Hermione, Dumbledore, Sirius, Lupin, the Weasleys, and any of the OOTP would say they wouldn’t want to fight, but they have to in order to stop Voldemort from conquering. What I gained from the story about death is that it is sad to lose people from life as we know it, but we must move on and the good who die fighting don’t die in vain, and their memories live with us. Death is not a bad thing.
Harry is usually always nice to his friends. He is sometimes rude to them, especially when voldemort invades his mind, but he is almost always happy with them. If you are convicted of a false crime, by all means leave jail. The ministry of Magic was corrupt and denying the truth about voldemorts return. I would be pretty pissed too if the government was saying I was a liar after I saw my friend get killed by my worst rival. Breaking the Rules are okay if you are doing so to try and learn how to protect yourself against a dark wizard and his army of many. If my teacher was making me write in my own damn blood, I’d sure as hell show my anger to him or her. All your accusations about the series you have made are totally a sign of you taking the series the wrong way.
What is a good series without something sad happening?! When Fred died, I was very sad, but it had to happen to make one feel closer to his family! If no one good died, it would be way too happy. Yes, I am sad for the Dobbies, and the Lupins, and Diggorys, and tonkses, Creeveys, Madeyes and Snapes. But I know that if they didn’t die, we would not have been able to feel for anyone at all and the characters would have no motivation to fight evil, which is what makes a great story. You can’t expect tp hear of a decent, heart pounding, powerful, teardropping battle without the loss of loved ones. It made the story sad, but so much more beautiful and touching. I mean, where’s the story in everything being good and perfect all the time?
There is a 0% chance that Hsrry Potter or Twilight will be real in our world. Therefore they are both as unlikely to happen as each other. I will say, however, that Harry Potter is more metaphorically possible.
Realism does not matter in a fantasy. Stories have to be grounded in reality to some extent, but wizards in cloaks fit the Harry Potter universemjust as well as the volturi fits Twilight. They are both unrealistic to human standards, but to their respective fantasies, they fit well. However, Voldemort is a much better villain.
Twilight is not good literature at all. It lacks creativity and has nothing on the Harry Potter series. J.K Rowling created a whole universe, whereas Meyer created a new kind of vampire. You’re argument for Twilight is fallacy packed and filled with contradictory statements. Oh boy, Bella went to Italy to save a vampire! That’s your example of true love? How about Lily Potter sacrificing her own life to provide protection from Voldemort hurting her one and only son? How about Snape, doing whatever it takes to protect the dead one he loved’s son? How about Dumbledore, avoiding Harry at all costs so Harry would not become more like voldemort. Or harry himself, providing protection for all his friends, by doing what his mother did, protecting all his friends with love when he sacrificed him self. Bella traveled to Italy to save a horny vampire. Harry would kill himself for the life of any of his friends. Harry Potter is a creative series that taught me how to be brave and strong, even when everything is going against you. It taught me that sacrificing yourself for the the sake of saving many more isn’t always a bad thing. It is everything you want in a series and it changed many lives, like my own. Twilight is nothing, a story of vampires and werewolves fighting over sex. Dumbledore’s army owns team Jacob and Edward. Kill the spare.
Nerds rule!
Mischief managed.
I am thoroughyly amused, both by this little article and by the comments people put up. Why so adament about proving your point that Harry Potter is better than twilight? The whole reason for this article was to poke fun at Twilight, not the other way around.
“Death is no big deal, it happens all the time”
That is actually true, it shows that instead of crying all the time and isolating yourself to remind yourself it happens all the time. Jo Rowling isn’t saying, “Go jump off a bridge, it won’t matter” she is saying, “Remind yourself of the good times and not of the bad.”
And Harry Potter is aimed for all genders, ages, and types of people.
Twilight is only for girls. It only aims at love. Not many people can relate to falling in love, then him leaving you, then leading on some guy and running back and forth between the two.
Harry Potter has many different things in it, things you can relate to. And just because Jo didn’t make the vampires in her books sparkle, doesn’t mean she isn’t creative.
Many people enjoy the things about witches and wizards that are usually told.
Stephenie did not use one fact about vampires that Dracula had.
HP also is about friendship, conquering your fears, and overcoming all obstacles. Many people can relate to this.
Twilight is about love and guys basically. I have never fell in love, therefore I can’t say I can relate to Bella. I have read all Twilight books and watched all Twilight movies, I couldn’t find anything that appealed to me. My brother, sister, friends, and family members could barely find anything that they related to from Twilight yet they could from Harry Potter.
“Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!”
Sometimes, you can’t trust them. They could lie, use money for personal reasons and do nothing for the country.
Harry Potter is more complex and well written than Twilight; that, for one, is a fact.
Well, Most people have said it all. I just want to point out that while harry potter may teach you all loves things, twilight teaches you that by curling up on a forest floor, and then jumping off cliffs you will find the love of your life. Life isn’t all about romance and hot guys. You need actual substance or you become a prostitute. That would be sad.
My God! are you daft! You are the biggest moron the planet has ever known. Harry Potter has taught us to stand up for what you believe in and do what is right, don’t just go with the flow. It taught us to be proud of who we are and loyal to those who matter the most. It taught us that if you don’t have hope, we have nothing at all. Also, by killing off some amazing characters, Rowling made the story stronger.
Let me set up a situation for you to imagine. What if YOUR parents died before you could remember. What if you grew up never being treated like a proper child. Do you think your friends who grew up each having a pair of loving and suporting parents would get it? Of course they wouldn’t! How couold they know that kind of emotion!
Suggesting that Twilight is better because the stars are hotter suggests that you have bad morals and are very vain. Also, what kind of person thinks Harry Potter doesn’t have originality! JK Rowling open thousands of doors in childrens literary workings! I bet she is one of Meyers idols.
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I have a lot more to comment on, buT I won’t put you through any more pain or suffering. I just want to say, I hope this was a joke or else, you screwed up, BIG TIME!
hahaha lol How everyones taking this seriously! it’s a TROLL site! it says up the top! though the reasons are quite inadequete.
Dont get me wrong, I read all the Twilight books and seen the movies. The books and the first movie were nice, they were pretty well written and the story is ok. But the last two movies are crap.
So I’m not a hater nor a fan of Twilight, but when it comes to people who say twilight is better than harry potter? I get annoyed then. Because I dont think so and most of the people don’t. But still no hate.
But PLEASE come up with GOOD arguments because yours are crap. Im not gonna tell why i think harry potter is better because it is said so many times.
Furthermore to the hp fans: please stop saying that twilight sucks. I love laughing at stupid people who come up with these arguments but the twilight saga is popular and i can understand. At least people read.
OH. MY. GOD. You have got to be kidding me. You ARE kidding right? Cause if not you should really seek
medical attention…NOW!
Everything you mentioned above is nothing but sheer nonsense and can be contradicted by anyone who
knows anything about Harry Potter. You clearly haven’t read any of the books. I can see that enough
people have already ripped your article apart nicely. High fives to those Potter fans who clearly outwit
Preppy I‐can’t‐spell Gurl by a long shot. I loved most of them. (You could say all of them actually because
as far as I can see luvedwardandjasper is the only one who seems to agree with this pea brain.) Us
Potter fans rock!
Even though you clearly see who’s winning (Harry Potter is, in case you didn’t figure it out by now) I just
couldn’t leave without saying something. It couldn’t hurt to have one more member in Dumbledore’s
Army.=)
But before I start you should know that I have read ALL the books on both sides MULTIPLE times. Well
I’ve read the Harry Potter series about six times (including Quidditch through the Ages, Fantastic Beasts
and Where to Find Them and The Tales of Beedle the Bard) and the Twilight Saga thrice (Midnight Sun
included). I know what I’m talking about. This might be lengthy.
“Okay, SO many people are saying that Harry Potter is better than Twilight.”
‐This is the only true fact you have stated in the entire article—if it can be called that. Congrats cause
you’re right. Many people are saying that Harry Potter is better than your shit of a story about a
pedophile sparkling gay fairy with issues falling in ‘love’ with a disturbed, whiny b**ch. That is because—
as countless people have said it before me but I figured you should hear one more time—Twilight is the
worst piece of work done in the world. It doesn’t qualify for anything at all except for maybe a what‐not‐
to‐do book. (More on that later) Harry Potter is about friendship, bravery, love, believing in yourself and
everything that is good in life. It will indeed be there for a long time to come. Whereas Twilight has a
maximum of five more years before people start to send the books to the paper recyclers. HP’s already
been around for over 13 years and will continue to stay.
“That’s SO not true!”
‐Sorry to break it to you hun, but yeah, it is VERY true. If these comments haven’t proved that then
nothing will.
“Twilight is a timeless tale of love, then love lost and found again. It shows how love can get you through
everything. It’s such a sweet story about the things people do for love, like Bella goes all the way to Italy
to save Edward from the Volturi, for instance.”
‐The story has nothing to do with love at all! It’s about teenage lust. Stephenie Meyer probably wrote it
on a Saturday night, half‐drunk about a sloppy dream she couldn’t fully remember. And then
accidentally—and unfortunately—it got published. Some of the scenes are pretty embarrassing to read,
like your reading a piece of her journal. There isn’t love at all in between Edward and Bella. Edward is
just interested in her because he can’t read her mind and her blood smells good. Bella likes Edward
because he’s hot. (which he’s not. He makes me want to puke. But that’s not relevant). The point is Bella
and Edward have nothing in common at all. I wouldn’t be surprised if Edward didn’t know what Bella’s
favorite color was. They hardly connect. All they do is lust after each other. More than one third of the
book is with Edward having his tongue inside Bella’s mouth! Twilight doesn’t even have parental love
shown. It is implied in certain areas, I’ll admit, but never is it shown. It’s just a crazy obsession Bella has
for Edward. She’s a b**ch who considers friends below her socially awkward and clumsy self.
Love is the most important theme in Harry Potter. It is implied in many ways; from the parental love to
love you feel towards your friends to of course boyfriend and girlfriend love. It was love that saved Harry
from Voldemort’s power when he was a mere baby! Lily Potter died to save her son. She could have
easily moved away and let Voldemort kill Harry. Voldemort had given her that choice. But she didn’t
because she loved Harry. Loved him enough to die for him and that is what gave Harry the protection he
needed. It is what protected him from Voldemort’s Killing Curse because love is more powerful than any
kind of magic.
Harry loved his friends and that is why he walked to his own death, to save the people he loved. He
didn’t care that he had to die in the process but what mattered was that his friends survived and not die
because of him. That takes courage and love.
Romance is also there in Harry Potter and though it isn’t the central plot it is way better than what there
is in Twilight. That’s the funny bit. JK’s subplot is WAY better than Meyer’s central if‐you‐can‐call‐it‐a‐
plot. Ron and Hermione’s love story is extremely sweet because they are just so unlikely to be together
but yet they are right for each other. It has been compared with being one of the most romantic stories
of this time. Hermione has to go through a lot. She had to wait for six years and had to bear to see Ron
snogging Lavender Brown. But she was patient and they got to know each other first and took their
relationship step by step. That makes it so much sweeter.
When Ron leaves Hermione doesn’t sit in a spinning chair for three months before going off to hook up
with another guy. No. She just cries quietly and tries her best to help Harry as promised. This is what
makes her such a great role model. Throughout the story female characters like Hermione, McGonagall,
and Ginny teach girls like me that you can do anything if you try hard enough. Hermione doesn’t HAVE
TO HAVE a boyfriend to be smart. Ginny doesn’t HAVE TO GAVE a boyfriend to kick ass. Whereas all
Bella teaches me is that you’re nothing without a hot guy in your life for whom you should give
everything up. Even if the guy’s abusive he’s hot and all that matters. (I’m being sarcastic, BTW)
And oh, Bella goes all the way to Italy to have a chat with the ‘villain’ but miraculously merciful Volturi to
stop her boyfriend sparkling in the sun. Wow. What a big sacrifice. (Sarcasm again) But do you have any
idea about Severus Snape? What that guy had to go through? He loved Lily Potter and after she was
killed by Voldemort, Snape risked his life every second by working secretly for Dumbledore to bring
Voldemort down and avenge her murder. He lied to the MOST EVIL PRACTISER OF THE DARK ARTS to
protect Lily’s son after her death even though he resembled James Potter, a man he loathed. He
switched sides because of love. And risking your life every second is NOTHING compared to a trip to Italy
and in run super‐slow‐mo to stop your sparkly boyfriend showing everyone else how he sparkles. Wow.
That really does throw things into perspective for us, doesn’t it?
“Also, Twilight is MUCH more creative, I mean, Stephenie Meyer created a new kind of Vampire, instead
of just using a stereotypical, Dracula type Vampire. I mean, they sparkle, how awesome is that? Plus,
they’re MAJORLY hot instead of being creepy. And the werewolves aren’t your typical “full‐moon‐flesh‐
eater” type. It shows that Stephenie Meyer is actually creative while JK Rowling has no original ideas at
all.”
‐I think this statement of yours have drawn the angriest of comments. And why not? What you’re saying
is completely PATHETIC! You can read, right? Then how in the holy name of God could you say
something like that? I mean really! STEPHENIE MEYER is more original than J.K. ROWLING?! If you’re
near a window I suggest that you jump out of it without further hesitation. Go on. Because you have no
idea just HOW wrong you are or just HOW angry this makes me.
‐S. Meyer didn’t create a new vampire. She destroyed them by stripping them off of everything that
made them cool! Vampires are creatures of the dark who prowl at night, killing humans and sucking
their blood. They’re supposed to BURN in the sun, not f**king SPARKLE! That just makes it so GAY! (I
have nothing against gay people though.) It makes them stupidly…I can’t even call them ‘girly’ because
that would be an insult to that term…like ‘Ugh!’ You know what I mean? I do like Vampires from ‘The
Vampire Diaries’. That’s a proper vampire story where L.J. Smith kept the originality of Vampires who
aren’t afraid to stick their fangs out and bite into humans. Because that is what vampires are supposed
to do. Here’s a quote from the series:
CAROLINE: How come you don’t sparkle?
DAMON: Because I live in the real world where Vampires burn in the sun…this book has it all wrong.
See?! If your precious Edward Cullen would stand in the sun it’s supposed to burn his skin off, not make
him a human disco ball! S. Meyer didn’t make a new vampire at all. What she did was make a much
uglier version of Tinkerbelle without the wings! And they are NOT HOT! Forget ‘majorly’. It’s a disgrace
to the English Language if you apply the word ‘hot’ to any of them. A more appropriate word would be
‘disgusting’ cause, honestly, I know MANY people who are disgusted by them. And yes, they are VERY
CREEPY. I mean their skin refracts the light to the colors of the visible spectrum! How is that not
creepy?!
‐The term werewolf actually does mean a “full‐moon‐flesh‐eater”. A werewolf is a creature who is
cursed to be slave to the moon and who can’t control himself at a full moon and transforms into a wolf.
He isn’t in his correct mind as a wolf. THAT’s a werewolf. So going by that definition you can’t even call
Jacob Black a werewolf. As Aro says in Breaking Dawn, “Though the creatures think of themselves as
werewolves, they are not. The more accurate name for them would be shapeshifters. The choice of a
wolf form was purely chance.” So your argument is pretty invalid that S. Meyer created a new type of
werewolf. She didn’t even create a new type of anything actually. What a werewolf can do in the story is
exactly what an Animagi like Sirius can do—change at will and still retain in their human reasoning. And I
want to make something clear now, though you haven’t mentioned it, but some people (Twihards) are
saying that Sirius was copied from Jacob since both have the surname ‘Black’ and both can turn into a
‘dog’. Just so it’s clear, SIRIUS came FIRST. He is mentioned in ‘Harry Potter and the
Philosopher’s/Sorcerer’s Stone’ which was first published in 1997. Hagrid says that “young Sirius Black
lent [his bike] to [him]. “ And ‘Prisoner of Azkaban’, where we see Sirius, was published in 1999. Twilight
came out in 2005. So how was JKR supposed to copy something if it was not to be published until SIX
MORE YEARS! If someone copied then it was S. Meyer (See, I used IF. I didn’t directly accuse her of
anything). Only people who like Twilight can be as dim witted to believe that Sirius was copied.
“Stephenie Meyer is actually creative while JK Rowling has no original ideas at all.”
‐You really have lost it Preppy Girl (I spelt it correctly for you.) There is nothing, I repeat, NOTHING
creative about S. Meyer. As I have said earlier, she ruined these centuries’ old legendary characters by
altering them so badly. That’s not original, that’s TACKY! JKR stayed loyal to people’s beliefs and treated
these characters with respect and still made them interesting. Something your Meyer can NEVER
accomplish. Not to mention that JKR made and ENTIRE NEW WORLD! She made a school out of thin air,
filled it with Houses, new creatures, lessons, magical concepts and what not. She invented an entirely
new game and creatures like Dementors, Blast Ended Skwerts, Bowtruckles, Ashwinders, etcetera,
etcetera. (See ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them’ for further reference) She made new spells,
hundreds of them! And new words! NEW WORDS! When has S. Meyer done that? JKR made a Ministry
of Magic, magical laws and regulations, a completely new hospital with Healers…I can go on and on but
that would mean going on for over a couple hundred pages. You get the point, anyway. At least you
would if you had a brain…oh wait, you don’t if you read Twilight…And the best part is JKR made them
ALL believable. I mean, you can believe that all of them exist if you want to. And can you believe in
sparklin’ vamps. that are actually pedophilic fairies? Er…not so much.
“Twilight is just so sweet and romantic, a fabuous, timeless tale that will likely be around forever. Harry
Potter is just a mashup of crazy ideas, bizarre things, weird, freaky characters, and has no plot.
TWILIGHT 4 EVER!”
‐First things first: “Fabuous” and “mashup” are not actual words and don’t make sense. Read something
before to send it on the net. I’m just saying.
‐Secondly, Twilight is not romantic, nor is it fabulous (which I am assuming you meant as ‘fabuous’)
neither is it going to stay forever. Why? Because it is the most disgusting piece of crap ever put together
and is a waste of time to even pick up. (I’m still trying to figure out why I bothered to read the shit.) It
has no story at all except for a sicko aged a hundred plus lusting after a random chick just because her
blood smells good. And the disturbed, whiny, b**chy random chick only lusts after that pedophile
because he’s hot. Rhindleby did an awesome job summing up the so called plot. Nicely done!
Here’s what Twilight teaches you:
Your boyfriend is all that matters to you and you should give up everything for him including
your family, friends, life and not to mention your worthless soul.
Even if your boyfriend is abusive, a stalker and has murdered in the past, overlook it cause he’s
hot. That’s all you care about.
Drop out of school to get married and get pregnant as a teen.
If a guy confesses he watches you sleep and follows you around DON’T call the police cause he
might not be a serial killer after all. All he wants is to rip your throat open and drain your body of
blood. No harm in that!
If the same guy tells you that he’s dangerous and that you should stay away from him, go ahead
and throw yourself at him because he MUST be the love of your life.
When the guy leaves after snogging you for six months go into shock. Sit in a spinning chair for
three months staring at your backyard until you go off to find another guy.
It’s okay to mislead a poor guy who’s younger than you just so that YOU don’t suffer. Even when
knowing that the guy likes you, you MUST break his heart because he mended yours.
It’s perfectly normal and romantic to hear your living corpse of a boyfriend’s voice in your mind
when he shouted at you.
Forget your family and friends and everyone that cares about you and be completely selfish and
jump off a cliff ONLY to hear your boyfriend’s voice.
You should do as many reckless things as possible to kill yourself because you’re NOTHING
without your boyfriend and your life is pointless. A girl should not survive without a boyfriend.
NEVER move on. It’s the worst thing you can do.
But of course it’s not worse than dying. It is an utter sin to grow old and die naturally because
you’ll become ugly and wrinkly in the process. Just chase after immortality. That’s always the
best solution for everything.
Lie to your parents because they might want to stop you from becoming an crazy, soulless,
raving lunatic. We can’t let that happen, now can we?
Find the true love of your life when you’re young because if you don’t you’ll never be happy.
It’s never okay to be ugly! Looks are the only thing that matter.
Having sex with a corpse is so sexy because it’s impossible for him to get an erection but he
does! Wow! His heart doesn’t work but his balls sure do!
Being pregnant with his demon child is even better! Even though it’s trying to claw its way out of
your womb and will kill you in the process you must drink human blood to let it keep on doing
that.
You’re baby grows super fast. Isn’t that just the cutest thing ever!
What is even cuter is that your best friend who’s in love with you falls in love with your baby as
well! Can life get any better?
Actually it can! You’re gonna watch your parents die who have no idea of what ever happened
to you while you have sex in a cottage with your sparkly husband and live with your demon
child!
There are SO many more but let’s just leave it to this, okay? I don’t wanna think about Twilight
too much. It makes me want to hit something.
Here is what HARRY POTTER teaches you:
Love can conquer all evil.
Friends and family are always there for you and you should always be there for them in return.
You shouldn’t always think about yourself but help whoever deserves it.
Sometimes you have to look past your own safety to save others. Sometimes it’s necessary to
work for the “greater good”.
Death is depressing, yes, but there are SO many things worse than death. Watching your loved
ones die, for example. You can mourn the dead, respect and remember them, but it is possible
to move on.
There is always someone who loves and cares for you in the world. Even when you think that no
one is. Someone is always there.
Never give up on what you believe in. No matter how many people contradict you. If you think it
is right and have reasonable arguments then you should go ahead and do it.
There is something to value in everyone.
Girls are JUST AS GOOD as boys. They can kick just as much as ass, be just as smart (or smarter:
Hermione) and still can be sweet, motherly and feminine.
Our choices and actions define who we are. Not where we come from or what we look like.
Everything that’s good in the world!
‐NO. The characters are not “weird” or “freaky”. The only reason you’re saying that is because you tiny
little brain can’t appreciate anything but the stereotype (Bella). JKR made individual characters. A lot of
her characters have flaws (Harry’s anger, Dumbledore’s obsessive secrecy, Ron’s inadequacy etc.), but
they rise above their flaws ‐ that is their achievement. While your Bella sits there with her mouth slightly
open, looking lost, Harry, Ron, Hermione and the Wizarding World are fighting a war of life death
against Voldemort. Characters like Dumbledore, Snape, Lupin, Tonks and many more lose their lives
trying to bring Voldemort down. Even Colin Creevey has more guts than Bella and Edward combined and
dies in the Battle of Hogwarts after he had sneaked off to fight Evil. But what do Bella and Edward do?
Have a nice camp trip at the top of the mountain while Edward is aware that some of his family
members might not survive (all of them do—the flaw in Stephanie’s writing. She makes everything turn
out perfect, just the way people expect it to be) But that still doesn’t change the fact that it is
completely selfish of Bella to keep Edward with her and not protect his family. Forget Colin Creevey,
even Dobby the House Elf is braver than Edward! He dies while trying to save Harry and his friends from
the Malfoy Manor!
Plus, all the Cullens are so unattainably perfect to the point of being nauseating that no one can relate
to them. And Bella’s just a clumsy shell only there so that stupid girls can picture themselves in her place
and have fantasies about themselves. But you can relate very well with the characters in Harry Potter.
Ginny shows how strong girls can be and let’s Harry go so that he can stop Voldemort. She knows very
well how it might end for him but that doesn’t mean she’ll make him stay locked up in the Burrow with
her while the Wizarding World is being tortured. She makes a perfect role model. So does Hermione,
with her brains and determination. Though she has her flaws: being “painfully limited. Narrow. Close‐
minded” she over comes them by the end and that’s what makes her great. Whereas you can hardly say
anything like that about the characters in Twilight. All of them are the same by the end of the story as
they started. No growth in character. No change at all, excepting Bella who turns less fragile. But even
that’s physically, nothing to do with her character. Like Stephen King put it—“Jo Rowling is a terrific
writer while Stephanie Meyer can’t write worth a darn. She is not very good.”
‐HAS NO PLOT! You have to be bloody joking! If anything in the world has a plot it had got to be Harry
Potter! Okay, maybe I’m exaggerating a bit because there are lots of other awesome stories out there
but Harry Potter’s definitely one of them. But I don’t expect you to understand it cause, quite frankly,
the plot of Harry Potter is quite complex—not to mention the huge number of sub‐plots—and it takes a
bit of intelligence to fully understand. I couldn’t explain the whole plot in one sitting. There are so many
extra bits that you are likely to forget. But JKR pulled off the miracle and wove all of the loose‐ends
together and brought it a magnificent end. Plus she kept giving us hints in every single book which we
really begin to appreciate when re‐reading them. It shows you just how much effort Jo put into these
books. Everything had been planned out, every single character decided before she had even begun
writing. Every time I have read the books, EVERYTIME I’ve found something to interest me. Something
I’d overlooked or forgotten. And it all adds up to the ending JK brought us to. There were so many things
I was unsure about before reading the Deathly Hallows. For example I had no idea where Jo was going
with the character of Severus Snape. And there he was: one of the bravest characters in the story and
certainly one of the heroes. I mean, SNAPE was the last person I had expected who’d turn good and he
had been good all along. And reading back you do understand that. That just makes it so much
wonderful. I thank JKR, truly, for such a wonderful story.
‐Ugh! Don’t get me even started on S. Meyer’s plot. It is so damn obvious, predictable, annoyingly
gooey‐ish lovey dovey…and what not! I mean you can guess easily guess the next line after reading the
first. It’s the same cheap love story excepting with a couple of vampires that aren’t really vampires and
werewolves that aren’t really werewolves. Wow. What a story. I bet there have been a gazillions of
stories like that. I mean, lonely girls write stories like that in which they project their fantasies into. I
could bet anything that that was exactly what Meyer did. She imagines herself as Bella…and she’s
MARRIED! Ew! And even if she does imagine it she doesn’t have to publish it for the whole world to see
and ruin the thinking and language of other girls. Well she did publish it and there’s nothing you can do
about it now except not reading it. More than half of the book she describes Edward and the lust she
feels towards him. A quarter of the book is Edward telling Bella that he’s not good for her and she insists
she is and begs him to turn her into a immortal. I don’t get why S. Meyer is sending such a bad message
to young girls. No one should chase being immortal because that ruins the balance of nature. In Harry
Potter Voldemort’s the evil guy chasing immortality but in Twilight the ‘heroine’ is doing that so it is
actually being shown in positive light in Twilight but negatively in Harry Potter. What does that tell you
about the books? Again, I would like to refer to ‘The Vampire Diaries’ because I feel Twilight has A LOT
to learn from it. Elena, the protagonist, is a strong‐minded independent young woman whose family
matters to her more than Stefan (her boyfriend). She leaves him when she sees her family in danger. She
is willing to die in order to save everyone she cares about which includes Stefan and Damon. In Season 2
Elena thinks she might turn into a vampire and says something that I REALLY think Bella should listen to:
“I’m seventeen years old, how am I supposed to know any of this yet? I know that I love you Stefan. I
know that. But my future? Our lives together? I thought those were things I was supposed to deal with
as they came along. I was supposed to grow up. Then someday I wanted to have kids, start a family,
grow old and I was supposed to have a life time of those choices… I don’t wanna be a vampire, Stefan. I
never wanted to be one.”
LEARN FROM ELENA, BELLA! Hear what she’s saying! She’s saying that she NEVER wanted to be a
vampire. Because vampire’s are supposed to be tortured souls. Who in their right minds wants to
become a monster that kills people? Then live with that guilt FOREVER? Really. At first it sounds so cool.
‘Oooh. Living forever.’ But when you really think about it: Is it really awesome to live forever? Watching
everyone they care about die…Never moving on, never changing…I’d pick death, wouldn’t you? Just as
Dumbledore said: “to the well‐organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.”
‐Just saying: Using ‘4’ instead of ‘for’ just makes it lame. It wouldn’t kill you to type in two more
characters.
“Also, Harry Potter teaches you:
• It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even go
with an adult or anything.
• Violence is totally cool.
• Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.
• Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your
friends and accuse them of “not getting it”.
• It’s okay to escape from jail.
• Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!
• It’s okay to break the rules.
• It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures. “
‐You wouldn’t have mentioned ANY of these points if you’d read any of the books or even watched the
movies properly. You only proved that you know NOTHING about Harry Potter OR Twilight by
mentioning these because even though they don’t apply to Harry Potter some of them really do apply
for Twilight.
• “It’s ok to drop out of school and go hunt a crazy, murderous maniac by yourself, and not even
go with an adult or anything.”
‐They dropped out of school because if they went back they’d be murdered. Which one would
you choose—education or life? And they weren’t even ‘educating’ them because Voldemort had
taken over Hogwarts and they were only being taught how Muggles and Mudbloods are scum
and how pure‐bloods would rule the Wizarding World. You would only get tortured if you stood
up to them and it’d be suicidal for Harry, Ron or Hermione to step into Hogwarts.
‐They didn’t go “hunt crazy”. Harry was the only one who could stop Voldemort! He’d been told
everything necessary by Professor Dumbledore and only he could bring an end to the tough
time everyone else was having. And it would’ve been impossible for him to do it without Ron or
Hermione who stuck with him all the way. (sort of… Ron came back after all and admitted he’d
been an “arse”)
‐They were adults by wizarding standards‐17 years old. And Dumbledore had told Harry not to
tell anyone except Ron and Hermione.
‐I’m actually surprised you mentioned “drop out of school” because isn’t that exactly what Bella
does? No, correct me if I’m wrong but as far as I can remember she doesn’t even go to college
but instead gets married straight out of high school. She doesn’t have any valid “life or death”
reason either. It’s only that she’s afraid she’s growing too old. What a terrible thing it is, right,
growing older every second? I mean its everyone’s worst nightmare to turn nineteen.
• “Violence is totally cool.”
‐Further proves you haven’t touched the books. One of the main messages in the book is that
violence is NOT cool. Voldemort and his Death Eaters use violence and in case you hadn’t
noticed—they’re the BAD guys. Harry is always against violence. He used “Expelliarmus”—a
Disarming charm—against Voldemort’s Killing Curse. He refused to Stun Stan Shunpike even
though he had been aiming to kill Hagrid and capture Harry. Even in the last duel with
Voldemort Harry used the same Disarming spell and Voldemort died when his own curse
rebounded on him. Harry just used only used the other two of the Unforgivable Curses only in
desperate situations and he didn’t like using them. In Order of the Phoenix he couldn’t use the
Cruciatus Curse on Bellatrix because he didn’t mean it. He never used violence if he could help
it. Neither of the characters did. (except the bad guys)
‐Like there isn’t violence in Twilight! The Cullens rip James apart in Twilight. Edward takes
Victoria’s head off in Eclipse. What are those if not violence?
• “Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.”
‐Never in the books do they say that Death is no big deal. The death of every single character is
mourned. Did you see how the Weasley family reacted to Fred’s death? Or how Harry reacted
after Sirius’s and then Dumbledore’s death? The deaths of Mad‐Eye, Lupin, and Tonks and of
many others affect everyone deeply. Even Dobby is missed and given a proper funeral. And
death DOES happen all the time. But Harry Potter tells us that even though death is a big deal
and getting over it can be hard but it is possible to move on because there are a lot of things
worse than dying.
‐In New Moon Bella jumps off a cliff just to hear Edward’s “velvety voice” in her messed up
mind. That could’ve potentially killed her (it’s just too bad it didn’t). She’s the one showing us
that death is no big deal when you want to hear your boyfriend’s voice of when he shouted at
you. Edward constantly keeps telling Bella that becoming a vampire is like dying because she
loses her soul. But Bella keeps on insisting that he turn her into one. That’s showing that death’s
no big deal.
• “Just because you’re an orphan since some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your
friends and accuse them of “not getting it”. “
‐What do you mean ‘just because’. JUST. Really? How would you feel if your parents were
murdered by ‘some guy’? Naturally you’d be edgy, pissed. I think Harry handled it quite well,
actually, considering his circumstances. Better than I could’ve handled it anyways. And Ron and
Hermione really didn’t get it. Both of them were raised by loving parents who were still alive
while Harry had to live with the Dursleys who hated his guts for who he was and he hadn’t
known who he was or how his parents had died until he was eleven. How would you like that?
I’ll admit that Harry does act like a jerk sometimes but that’s because he’s been through a lot.
You could cut him some slack.
‐In Twilight Bella acts mean and b**chy to everyone who is nice to her on the first day. So it
teaches you that just because you don’t like to be where you are its okay to be a mean b**ch to
everyone who is nice to you. Great lesson.
• “It’s okay to escape from jail.
‐Sirius was INNOCENT! He hadn’t even been given a proper trial but chucked straight into
Azkaban for a crime he hadn’t committed. He had every right to escape.
‐The Death Eaters escape from jail and they’re the bad guys! So it’s definitely in a negative
sense, something you’re not supposed to do or learn from. You Twihards can be so stupid
sometimes…
‐Twilight teaches you that it’s okay to get away with committing actual legal crimes: pedophilia,
necrophilia, bestiality.
• “Don’t trust your government. In fact, just go ahead and reject them completely!”
‐Well, if the same government is trying to prove you a mentally unstable liar when you’re
speaking nothing but the truth then I’d say ‘Go ahead and reject them!’ The government at the
time was corrupt and lulling people into a false sense of security when in reality they weren’t
secure at all. I wouldn’t trust a government like that. And in Deathly Hallows the Ministry had
collapsed under the hands of Voldemort himself. How were they supposed to trust the
government that was torturing innocent people left and right? People who blindly trusted the
government, like Percy Weasley later on admitted that they had been wrong.
‐Twilight doesn’t speak of government in the slightest while Harry Potter has encouraged more
people to be interested in what their government is doing.
• “It’s okay to break the rules.”
‐It depends on the rules. If they were unreasonable like they were in Umbridge’s time then
yeah, it’s okay to break them. But you will notice that Harry never gets away with breaking
proper rules and Dumbledore always lectures Harry at the end of the book about it. And if
you’re talking about rules prowling the corridors at night and stuff then it’s just ridiculous. They
always did it with a valid reason and they usually got caught anyways.
‐Bella, however, breaks reasonable rules. Charlie hadn’t forbidden her from motorcycles just for
the fun of it. It was reasonable because Bella would get hurt if she did, probably die. But Bella
goes ahead and breaks it without even a proper reason. Just because she wanted to hallucinate
that her boyfriend was back.
• “It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures. “
‐Harry only shouted at Umbridge because she was a racist, Ministry hag who was saying that
Harry was lying. It only makes sense that he’d lose his temper. He shouted at Snape because he
was very unfair and a jerk towards Harry. He shouted at Dumbledore in the Order of the Phoenix
because he was depressed, mad and confused as he thought Sirius had died because of him. He
shouted at Scrimgeour because he wasn’t doing anything useful to stop Voldemort when he was
supposed to be the Minister of Magic.
‐Twilight teaches you its okay to be pedophilic. (It isn’t)
“And seriously, the books are also all depressing. Lots of good characters die, which isn’t cool. And
they’re just full of violence, and ridiculous plans.”
‐Not all the books are depressing. No one dies until the fourth one. (Quirell doesn’t really count) And
just in case you forgot, it’s a WAR. WARS are depressing. I know it isn’t cool that the good characters die
but that’s WAR. A war doesn’t happen without any casualties. It’d be pretty damn ridiculous if ALL the
good characters made it out alive. It wouldn’t be believable at all. Like Delena Weasley mentions above,
“characters dying tests your love for them. If you find yourself bawling over a fictional character, then
the author has done very well.” Yes. JKR has done very well because I was heartbroken when Sirius died.
Never before had a book made me cry, spill actual tears, when taken away in the course of the story. I’m
not ashamed to admit; I cried out loud when Dumbledore died and cried again when I read his funeral. I
cried when Fred Weasley died. He had been one of my favorite characters in the story. But you know
what? It’s okay because he died doing what he did best—cracking a joke. That’s the beauty of Jo’s
writing. She writes in a way that I can’t really explain but it really makes you feel what the characters are
feeling. Not to mention that Ron and the Weasley twins are always there when I need a laugh. JKR does
have some pretty amusing jokes as well. She’s an all‐round writer. The books have their tiny flaws but Jo
does a lot more than to just cover them up. She really is amazing.
‐Twilight ends with an unrealistic, sappy happy ending which just makes it ridiculous. Hundreds of pages
are wasted describing the how they’re getting ready for the war that never happens. The Volturi come,
have a nice chat, Bella protects everyone with her shield from out of the blue, the Volturi listen to a
story from an unknown guy and then leave. It’s plain stupid. S. Meyer just completely avoided the war
because her twelve year old of a brain can’t ever write what a WAR really is. (No offence to twelve year
olds, though.)
“Also, it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, Magic is impossible. And there’s no way you could seriously just
“apparate” dissappear and reappear somewhere else. And if you tried to hop in a fire to go someplace,
“Floo Powder”, you’d burn your face off. It’s just crazy, whereas the scenarios in Stephenie Meyers
Twilight series are more realistic and likely to happen.”
‐Magic is possible! Love is the best type of magic. It is much more possible than sparkly vampires and
werewolves anyways. If a vampire stood in the sun he’d burn his skin off, not sparkle. If a person turned
into a werewolf he wouldn’t be able to think. And maybe you forgot its FICTION! It isn’t supposed to be
possible! But imagining that the Wizarding World exists is much more fun than imagining gay fairies.
Nothing in Twilight is likely to happen. You wouldn’t find a vampire family in Forks. Your best friend
wouldn’t be a werewolf. Whereas Hogwarts can easily exist. I’m not saying it does but it can easily exist.
We aren’t supposed to be able see the Leaky Cauldron because we’re Muggles so we can’t get into
Diagon Alley. We can’t get through the boundary between the platforms nine and ten because we’re
Muggles. The reason we don’t see wizards is because of the International Statute of Secrecy and the
Ministry wipes our memories off if we see anything funny. You can believe in it if you want to. That’s
because JKR has a reasonable explanation for everything.
“Also, Twilight has:
Robert Pattison, can you say HOT? And he’s totally sexy when he sparkles!
Taylor Lautner, I mean, have you SEEN those muscles?
Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.
The Volturi. REALISTIC Villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters”
‐I don’t think these three points are even worth responding to. THE ACTORS AND ACTRESSES DON’T
AFFECT THE STORY!! And all the things you’ve mentioned are opinions not facts. But I don’t blame you.
You probably couldn’t find anything good to say about the story itself because there isn’t anything good
about it. I am sorry to say that I agree with neither of opinions either.
‐Robert PATTINSON (that’s how it’s spelt) is not hot OR is he sexy. He looks like he needs a shower. I
loved him as Cedric, I’ll admit. He was a very good actor at the time and was very cute. But Twilight just
ruined him. Why did they remove his accent?! That was one of the good things about him. He had to
sign up for Twilight and make his skin all blotchy white which makes him look VERY BAD. I liked him in
Remember Me though. He looks damn creepy when he sparkles. I don’t get HOW on earth sparkly=sexy.
It doesn’t! Sparkly=creepy. Sexy=Tom Felton, Daniel Radcliffe, James and Oliver Phelps.
‐I don’t like Taylor Lautner even though most of my friends are crazy over him. I’ll admit he’s cute…ish
but he doesn’t really have any impact in the movies. He’s there running around shirtless just so that the
movies get screaming 13 year old girl fans. I don’t like him. This is my opinion. Someone else may LOVE
Taylor and his muscles but I don’t get how his abs affect the movie OR the books.
‐I admit. I like Kristen Stewart. But I HATE her as Bella. She can’t portray any emotion at all in the
movies. Actually, you can’t really blame her since Bella doesn’t have enough character for her to
portray. She ends up looking vague and void of any emotion at all. “Extremely” is going a bit too far. Yes,
she’s talented but Twilight was by far her worst performance. She’s pretty. Not beautiful. Yes, she has
potential, only Twilight doesn’t let her use it. And just so you know, Emma Watson beats her by far in
my book any day. But again, this is opinion.
‐Volturi ARE NOT realistic. They don’t make sense. Oh, so they’re there to make sure the law isn’t
broken but they don’t do anything if it IS broken? And they’re supposed to be frightening despite the
fact that they’re merciful and even send Bella a wedding gift. Wow. I can’t even imagine Voldemort
giving Harry a mouldy sock, can you? See that just sounds ridiculous. Voldemort and his Death Eaters are
power seeking racists and they kill people just for the fun of it. They’re not merciful. They don’t raise an
entire army just to have a chat and then leave. They’re true villains. If it was a choice of the Volturi and
Voldemort I KNOW who’d I’d be scared of. Voldemort could beat the Volturi to pulp with his hands tied
behind his back.
“Harry Potter isn’t all bad, I mean, they DO have:
Robert Pattison as Cedric Diggory. The ONE thing the producers got right! Don’t even try to deny you
don’t rewind just to watch his scenes again!
Lucius Malfoy. Hot, even for an older guy!
And that’s about it. Seriously, you want QUALITY literature and movies, watch Twilight. I mean, I don’t
HATE Harry Potter or anything, It’s just like, NOTHING compared to the literary BRILLIANCE that is
Twilight!”
‐See, you’re going back on your word here AGAIN! Didn’t you say they’re freaky characters but you still
find them hot…hmm. It just shows how shallow and dim witted you are, doesn’t it? You JUST care about
looks!
‐We had Robert Pattinson first! And yes, he was really good. They COULD have picked someone better
but I liked him, really. And I just HATE him in Twilight. They just ruined him. He looks constipated ALL
THE TIME! And the producers got tons of things right. They’re a thousand times better than the Twilight
producers. Confession time: I hated Twilight a whole lot less before I watched the movie. And no, I don’t
rewind his scenes. It’s just sad that there are people out there who actually do that.
‐Lucius Malfoy is hot. But again, this doesn’t affect the story line, not that I’m complaining. There are
many hot characters in Harry Potter but they just don’t flaunt their looks. Because there are much more
important things than just looking hot.
‐The last paragraph…all I have to say is you’ve got it ass backwards. Flip the names then, yeah, I totally
agree. “Seriously, you want QUALITY literature and movies, watch Harry Potter. I mean, I don’t HATE
Twilight or anything, (though it would sure be nice if you did hate it) It’s just like, NOTHING compared to
the literary BRILLIANCE that is Harry Potter!” See. Much better! Everybody’s happy!
‐There’s another confession: I used to be a Twihard when I was twelve and I hated Harry Potter. I was in
love with Edward but I always thought of Bella as a drama queen. I hadn’t watched the movie and it
really disappointed me when I did. I realized how stupid it was when it was actually being portrayed on
the screen. So I just figured I’d give Harry Potter a try after the release of HBP movie to see what was SO
great about it. And, I swear, since then I’ve regretted of not reading Harry Potter sooner! I finished all
the books in two months and all the released movies in one weekend! And now looking back on Twilight
I realized what a complete nutter I’d been. Really, sometimes I want to hit myself when I think about
how I could’ve loved that shit. I’m fourteen now and know better to realize just HOW BADLY Twilight
sucks! I’m really grateful to Harry Potter and Jo Rowling. LONG LIVE HARRY POTTER, THE BOY WHO
LIVED!
‐That’s about it. I know it’s an incredibly long post and most people won’t read the whole thing but I
don’t really care. I got my point across and I’m feeling a whole lot light‐headed now. I’m really sorry for
any spelling or grammatical errors in the post. I’m 14 and English is my second language.=)
Are you an idiot ? ….,
I laugh just at your username, Preppygurl. I also laugh at how you can make such a failarticle. Good for you. Very good. I’m glad you know how to make a joke at Twilight, saying how “good” it is. I laugh even more at my fellow potter-fans with can see your fail. Twilight will never compare to Harry Potter… period.
Is this a joke?? I seriously hope it is because if this is legit it’s…what is the world coming to??
Point no.1: Yeah, it’s ok to drop out of school if you’re trying to save the world from the most evil wizard who ever lived! And may I just remind you that HP is fiction. As is Twilight!
Point no.2: Well sometimes violence is the only option. Plus it’s magical so that makes it cool. What’s that saying? Oh yeah, let’s fight fire with fire…
Point no.3 Death does happen all the time, someone dies evey 5 seconds of something like that.
Point no.4 Harry is not a jerk to his friends. They are all going through very rough times and have some problems like all friends do.
Point no.5 Yes, it’s ok to escape from jail if you are INNOCENT.
Point no.6 Personally I don’t trust the government.
Point no.7 Sometimes you have to break rules.
Point no.8 And some teachers are complete prats and I would like to shout at some.
Thanks for your time…
P.S I know this was a joke. I’m just showing how completely RIDICULOUS some Twilight fans are. 🙂
TWILIGHT IS A FAD.
HARRY POTTER IS A LIFE STYLE.
Can I just mention that NOBODY had bothered writing and performing 2 musicals based on Twilight. Know why? Cos it’s shite.
Hey, at least Dumbledore came out. Edward needs to come out of the Vanishing Cabinet.
Wait, you say Twishite is more realistic?! Well excuuusssseeee me, but being able to run at superhuman speeds and having superhuman powers doesn’t seem all that realistic, thank you very much! And what about what Twishite teaches it’s readers?
-If your boyfriend leaves you, you should become an adrenaline junkie and then throw yourself off of a cliff.
-Having a creepy undead guy stalking you is sexy.
Total shit! And the Volturi wear cloaks too, and they are insane freaks! I also add, I have read the series at my mum’s insistence, so I know what I’m saying.
Ok, I’m sorry… but whoever wrote this lost all possible credibility at this part:
“I mean, Magic is impossible. And there’s no way you could seriously just “apparate” dissappear and reappear somewhere else. And if you tried to hop in a fire to go someplace, “Floo Powder”, you’d burn your face off. It’s just crazy, whereas the scenarios in Stephenie Meyers Twilight series are more realistic and likely to happen.”
I’m sorry hun… but I grew up around law enforcement and the only two times any situation from Twilight is even remotely possible is when Bella’s on drugs or living on the gaza strip. No sober, coherent individual would get involved with someone like Edward the possessive stalker or Jacob the psycho ragaholic in the first place- in the first book, how creepy Edward was was outright given as the reason he didn’t exactly have women lining up, despite his looks. And give me one example of a woman in an abusive relationship that stays with him for a reason other than fear.
Now, if you somehow manage to point out that this is still a love story instead of Bella choosing between which abusive beau she wants (some love story), let’s also put down how many scenarios require them to be unrealistically stupid. All these scenarios could be resolved in about two seconds with solutions a six year-old could figure out. I mean, seriously… a phone, facebook, visiting their house or showing some freakin’ common sense could have avoided 3 1/2 books worth of problems.
And this is assuming you’re living in reality enough to realize that vampires and werewolves aren’t actually real.
Stop comparing Twilight with Harry Potter. You’re insulting twilight
Only one thing I can say: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. No but seriously, wtf. I sincerely hope for your sake that you’re joking. This is so ridiculous it bogles my mind. After reading this, I was seriously about to start explode from the ridiculousness, until I saw all the Harry Potter comments. Oh my gosh. I love you guys. Please tell me your being sarcastic. Please. Hahahahahahaha. If you are, I applaud you. If you aren’t, well, I lyk totes wish u luck nd stff cuz ur lyk not to smart :3 Harry Potter now and always will rule. HP FTW!
I took your Twilight is better than harry Potter article seriously and I almost cut a bitch, until I read the header on your page. It’s all a joke! I love this article with a passion! Pure genius. Obviously you wrote the disclaimer after the article came out, or you wouldn’t have a bunch of idiots here defending Twilight and ranting about how how Robert Pattinson and his painted-on abs are…
I think vampire, i think blood thirsty demon who sleeps in a coffin and BURNS in the sun.
I think Twilight Vampire, i think “Oh my freakin fudge! A fairy!” literally. (sorry for that, i’m kind of crazy)
Harry Potter characters are relatable. I can’t quite pretend i’m one of the magic folk (although I am not a muggle by any means! muggle: non-magic person)
Lord of the Rings is better anyways. It beats Twilight, Harry Potter, and pretty much everything else. So shut up dummy.
I just realized that this was a JOKE site. Whoops…
But I’ve seen someone post something almost exactly like this on a different site. Whoops.
Too realistic, guys, too realistic.
xD siriusly
harry potter doesn’t teach you all that. twilight teaches:
its ok to ditch your friends and family for your boyfriend
when your boyfriend leaves you, you go into depression for 4 months and then jump off a cliff
dropping out of school at 18 is totally cool
its ok to date a guy 100 years older than you
getting pregant at 19 when you have college is ok.
twilight is so fucking stupid, it’s not even near Harry potter. twilight is just about some weak girl that falls in love with a dead person. wouldn’t you be scared? but Bella isn’t somehow, lol shes so stupid. hp has better movie reviews (go on imdb.com) and has a more fans (Facebook, tumblr, etc)
There is no argument, if you say Twilight is better then Harry Potter, you’re stupid. Plain and Simple.
sorry, i’m going to have to disagree with everything you said. i mean, magic isn’t realistic and sparkly vampires are??? what kind of stupid argument is that???!!!!
you must be really dumb to even think that harry potter and twilight come just a little bit close. i mean, harry sacrifices himself for those he loves. he’s brave and gives up his life for his friends. Bella would never do that. she’s too stupid.
harry potter books don’t send the message that death is “okay”, they just say that it’s part of life, which is completely true. and it DOES happen all the time.
YOU DID NOT INSULT JK ROWLING. SHE IS MY HERO. SHE’S MORE CREATIVE THAN STEPHANIE POOPY MEYER AND THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS IT.
1. twilight says it’s okay to have sex with some creepy 100-year-old pedophile when you’re 19
2. twilight says it’s okay to leave your whole life behind just to chase after some creepy guy
3. twilight says it’s okay to go into depression just because your creepy sparkly boyfriend is protecting you
1. harry potter teaches that love is the most powerful thing in the world and can defeat anything
2. harry potter teaches that strength and courage have more value than anything else
3. harry potter has so much more of a plot than twilight, are you fucking kidding me??!!!
so, yeah, I hope you realize how wrong you are.
You’re ignorant. Twilight tells teens its okay to attempt suicide because your boyfriend leaves you. Or that cheating on your boyfriend is okay. Or that when you get a Boyfriend its completely alright to forget our friends exsist. . Or that he good Guy always wind. You keep that mindset. You’ll fail at life. Oh and vegitarian vampires are so original. Puhlease. OS and the vampire can’t be killed. So hen we wont know that a good charecter will never de
Harry Potter on the other hand tells how you have to fight for what’s right. And how love can be right in front of you things don’t just get handed to you you have to work for them. Even poor kids can achieve greatness. A good. Author can kill off loved charecters not just thevilliand.
Feel free to email and I could Arguee nt point you have over twilight being better
Preppy gurl, you need to get your ass down to the library and check out some Harry Potter.
In attempt to make you see that you’re wrong, I shall start with some retaliation.
Harry Potter teaches you that;
“It’s okay to drop out of school to go (insert ‘and’ here) hunt a crazy, murderous maniac (just one of those adjectives would have been plenty) on your own and not even go with an adult or anything.”
Well, it’s like this, Harry was destined to do it. It said so in a prophecy, HE
had to be the one to defeat Voldemort. He also had two friends with him as well. Both were smart and capable in their own ways, they were like his very own crack team. Also the adults weren’t like;”Well sure Harry! We’ll let you go and fight a psychopath who wants to kill you! Why don’t you make a day of it eh? I’ll just pack you a picnic lunch shall I?” They snuck off in the middle of the night. The adults were also preparing for a massive war and fighting a corrupt government controlled by said madman.
2.”Violence is totally cool.” Wrong again. See, one of the messages in Harry Potter is that violence is WRONG! That war is dangerous, and look what happens when people start prosecuting each other for being different! It shows us that people get hurt. And that although the world is not a place of black and white, but shades of grey, we should try to be like Harry and value live, and friends and family before power.
3.”Death is no big deal, and happens all the time.”
Death does happen all the time. In fact, it happens to thousands of people every day. It’s happening to someone as I type this and to someone else as you read it. Also, Harry is massively affected by his parent’s deaths. It shaped his life. And don’t even get me started on Sirius.
4. “Just because you’re an orphan because some guy killed your parents, it’s okay to be a jerk to your friends because of them ” not getting it.” When does he say that? Since you used speech marks, that implies that you are quoting from a part of the book where the character says this. If not then you are using them incorrectly. Which wouldn’t surprise me, I’m starting to see you’re nor exactly the brightest tool in the shed.
5.” Its okay to escape from jail.” Ugh. Two words. Bellatrix LeStrange.
6. “Don’t trust your government. In fact, go ahead and reject them completely.” Okay, so, not only have you just proven you have no political knowledge whatsoever. But you’ve just raised a hypocritical argument. In Twilight, the Volturi is like the vampires government, right? Well, I’ll be damned, the Cullen’s break just about every rule in the book! They defy their government on numerous occasions, and almost put their own race I jeopardy by nearly willingly exposing them. And as for not trusting your government. Honey, you have a lot to learn. Let’s say… Hitler. ( There are so many good examples it’s hard to choose, but you’ll know this one, I hope.) Remember that guy?
Remember how people trusted him?
Remember how he slaughtered millions of Jews, eh?
Good times.
See, government is not always, in fact, mostly never is, actually about serving the people. Those might have been the ideals that the founders of democracy came up with, but they have looooong since been forgotten. Harry Potter ISPs a good example of a corrupt government. See, Voldemort controls the government at one point. And uses this power he’s been given for personal gain. Sometimes, I know it’s hard to believe, the government does not have your best interests at heart. Why, there are many corrupt governments around today. China, Russia, North Korea. Look them up.
6. “It’s okay to break rules. ” Oh please. That’s not an argument.
7. “It’s okay to shout at and be rude to teachers and other authority figures.” Ugh. You disgust me.
Twilight teaches you;
Oh wait! You didn’t say Twilight teaches you anything. And your right, it teaches you nothing.
you babbled on about Robbert Pattinson, Kristen Stewart and Taylor Lautner. Not necessarily in that order. Look, Kristen Stewart is not talented. She’s a vacant idiot. She was alright in the Runaways, but even then. And another thing, the aesthetic quality of the actors (that means how good they look) has nothing to do with their acting skills or how good the film is. If you judge a film by the looks of the characters in it them I am sorry, but perhaps you should stick to such shameful cinematic mistakes as Mall Cop, Grown Ups and Garfield.
I’m not even going to a dress the bit where you gush over the sweetness of the story and how depressing HP is because it’s just not worth it. Although, I now have some questions for you, not that I expect you to be able to form coherent retaliation, but anyways;
Who is the role model in Twilight? It certainly isn’t Mary-Sue, I mean Bella, Alice,Esme,or, y’know, any make/female character in Twilight. They’re all so one dimensional that when they turn around they become invisible. I would say that most characters can be taken as role models. I know you will counter with a death eater, but don’t even bother. But I’d say that the most popular male is Harry. And the most popular female is Hermione, and I’ll tell you why; Hermione is strong, smart, clever and independent. Sure, she might not be pretty (she’s much more plain in the books), but that doesn’t MATTER. She doesn’t NEED a boyfriend. She’s fine as she is. She’s loyal, courageous, and a true friend.
2. Why are the Volturi realistic enemies? I can’t think of anyone less realistic. And, you won’t know this, but Voldemort and his Deatheaters are based off of a group of medieval knights who dod similar deeds, also taking inspiration from Hitler and his Nazi’s.
3. Apart from it being a “Tho thweet wuv stowy,” What does Twilight actually teach you, name me five completely different lessons you learn from the book that are not all to do with falling in love.
4.Yousaidd that Meyer created a brand of vampires, completely new, never seen before! Yes well. There’s a reason for that. They are perfect. Annoying characters without ant flaws. And don’t you DARE say “Oooh, Bella’s plain, and clumsy!” Being plain is not a personality flaw. Most of the population are plain, you’re probably no supermodel yourself, its okay, neither am I. And as for being clumsy, that’s an endearing personality trait, or at least, it’s endearing on a character that’s not Bella.
I know Ive owned you, you know it too. Let’s move past your silly Twilight phase.
COME ON GUYS. Before you start ranting about what’s written, take time to look at the top of the page the one that says “Preppy Gurl on the World” with the Disclaimer that says:
“DISCLAIMER: This site is NOT SERIOUS! This is a JOKE site. I made this for fun, to try and capture the average, shallow teen girl, and subtly poke fun at them, and Twihards.”
It’s a bit obvious that this blog is sarcastic so I don’t get what you people are getting too worked up about. That is, unless, you are trolling.
I didn’t read the disclaimer but totally stand by my opinion lol
wow you’re intelligence astounds me
First of all Stepheine Meyer is the least creative author in the world all she did was make the vampires sparkle and drink animal blood she basically ruined the legend of vampires and her werewolves are not werewolves they are pathetic shapeshifters they look more like overgrown puppies.
JK Rowling created a whole new world hidden within the real world she created the stores, the characters, the logic behind the magic, the spells, and the creatures. She is far more creative by a mile
Harry Dropped out of School to save the world from voldemort also His School was being corrupted by evil forces. He is the chosen one no one can help him not even a adult. And if I remember correctly Bella did not go to college because she got married to Edward and Got Knocked up by Edward
Harry Potter is teaching people that violence and cruelty does exist in the world there are people in the world who like to make others suffer. like pedophile, serial killers, murders, and kidnappers .Harry Potter is not going to sugar coat everything it’s gonna deal with real world thing. Twilight sugar coats everything and makes Naive Girls believe the world is all bunnies, Glitter, Love, and Happiness 24/7 which it is not
Death is a part of life Harry teaches people not to be afraid of death because it is the next great adventure. Twilight teaches people to fear death and try to run away from it. We all die at some point in life
Harry is only a jerk to his friends in book 5, and there is a reason he has a temper in book 5 it is because he was being possessed by Voldemort and Voldemort was trying to get into his head. Harry has a reason for his angst His parents are Dead and He is being hunted down by his parents murder and his relatives treat him like crap. Bella whines and complains about her life for no reason at all she has no reason to complain. Edward is angsty but again he has no reason to be angsty because he has a loving family.
Sirius was innocent he was but in Jail for no reason. He escapes from Jail to help His godson
The goverment in harry potter can’t be trusted because they but a innocent man in prison, and are denying the fact voldemort is alive putting people at risk. It is not saying you can’t trust the goverment but the goverment does make mistakes
Harry breaks the rules because he is trying to Help people in need. He is trying to rescue his friends, or the school harry breaks rules for a reason. Bella not only breaks rules she lies to her Father about it at least Harry tells the truth
Harry is rude to authority figures because they are wrong and are calling him a liar and calling him crazy of course he is going to defend himself. Harry is only rude to professor snape because Snape hates him Harry is just standing up for himself.
Of course the Harry Potter books are Dark becuse THEY ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A WAR. The good characters die because in War not everyone will make it out alive even good people die. At least JK Rowling had the guts to kill of some of her main characters, Stephenie Meyer was to cowardly to Kill of her characters making the story very bland and boring.
Of course magic is impossible but that’s why Harry Potter is a FANTASY NOVEL and at least JK Rowling gives a good explanation of how the magic works. Twilight is not realistic because Vampires and Shapeshifters do not exist and people do not fall in love as quickly as Bella and Edward.
Harry potter has Robert Pattinson so they have that in common
Taylor Lautner is the worst actor I have ever seen he is to overly dramatic
Kristen can’t act at all she never shows expression on her face she looks bored all the time
The volturi are weak Villians they are not even Villians. Villians enjoy to torture, kidnap, and kill they show no mercy which is what Voldemort and his Death Eaters do. The Volturi just stand there like idiots and talk things out they are to cowardly to take action
Twilight is a literary Failure Twilight has grammatical mistakes left and right, the characters are immature and 2 dimensional in personality, the plots are all the same, the plot of twilight is weak, The characters in Twilight are selfish
Harry Potter ranks way above Twilight in both film, and literature
Twilight is just a stupid immature love story about a whiny girl who falls in love with a depressing controlling Vampire
your a moron.
Avada Kedavra.
Shut up, you inarticulate bumble.
I’m sorry, but you really are just plain idiotic.
Twilight teaches you to be a whiny bitch and that you are worth nothing without a man.
Really?
Is this what you think young women should think about themselves?
Harry Potter teaches you that life isn’t fair, but you must always do the right thing. It teaches you about love, trust, true friendship, and that there is good and bad in everyone. It’s a story of courage and truth, you simply can’t see that because you’re too busy pining after Mr. Right.
Who, in your opinion, is some frozen, animated corpse.
Robert Pattinson has admitted in many interviews that he isn’t a fan of the Twilight series, and has even called it some sort of strange sexual fantasy. Which it (disgustingly) is. So there goes your fantasy fucktoy.
People like you are the reason civilization is declining.
Grow the fuck up.
I realist that this may be a joke; I’ve seen some of the content on another site with another username. If this is a joke, it shows the maturity level of this God forsaken country. If, on the off-chance that this isn’t a joke, heed my insight. I promised myself I’d only rip apart only a couple points this little idiot has made. Last time I corrected a Twilight fan, I was suspended from my account. I’ve read to books of both series. I know the stories of both forwards and backwards. Twilight fans make me sick. I’m not saying I hate the Twilight franchise, I’m just disappointed in it’s fandom. Instead of being silent lovers, doing this like Twilight storyline roleplay andwriting fanfictions of the characters, perhaps cosplay a couple times or have discussions with other fans about the books in-depth, you fans are out trying to take down the notably larger Harry Potter fandom, and why? The storylines are completely different. You people give Twilight, which was a satisfactory series (of course the movies are anouther, much less possitive word), a bad name. You make the fandom look foolish and ignorant. All you do is boast about how much of a “great, timeless lovestory” the series is. If the scenario was introduced with Dracula-style vampires and folk-werewolves and Bella was played by a better actor, it would be. However, Stephanie Meyer tried to change the view of the amazing Vampire and Werewolf. She made them watered down, for a younger, more ready-to-read crowd. JKR, on the other hand, created an entire world in which you could transform into an animal, use magic, and be different from the norm. Ms. Rowling created a whole other world, whereas Ms. Meyer switched our view of classic horror creatures; both of which are unique, but on two different sides of the spectrum, and I find myself, and most of the world, leaning in Rowling’s direction. By the looks of it, you have never read the Harry Potter series, otherwise you’d know how realistic Voldemort was, or why you’re first statement concerning leaving school is way off base, among other reasons. Voldemort had a very Hitler personality. He tried to kill off all of the Halfbloods, much like how Hitler tried to kill off the Jews. I couldn’t think of any way the Volturi were realistic villians. I tried to tie them to a real world villian (like how I compared Voldemort to Hitler) but I couldn’t find any. And I’m majoring in world history. And the mark of any good book is a mark of depression. I agree there is a sadness when a character dies, but the sadness and the overcome of said sadness makes a story great. Take Romeo and Juliet for example, a tragic love story ending in the death of so many, including the two main characters, Romeo and Juliet. Now, this play is required to be read in school. It is the perfect example of a true “timeless love story.” To be honest, why would a book be deemed better if it seemed more realistic? When did realism ever be a factor in rating a book? Just because it is a satire, it doesn’t mean it’s better than a science fiction novel. Much like in this case; just because it was set in a small town instead of a fantasy world, why does that defult to the small town story being better than the fantasy story. I honestly doubt any girl would be savagely fought over and impregnated by a killer halfblood vampire (or in a realist sense, a girl having to choose between two wrongs as her mate for life, while overcoming the fact that both are wrong for her). However, who’s to say the realist point of Harry Potter has never happened. A dictator tries to kill a boy, but ends up being killed himself, then, he becomes a deity and tries to kill the boy again, consequently being destroyed. It seems just as unlikely, but to my previous point, when has that ever made a book better than another. As to the quality of the books, Ms. Meyer has a very simple way of writing. The entire Twilight series was a very simple read. The vocabulary was that of any middle school quality novel and her plotline wasn’t nearly as complex as the Harry Potter series, which has incredible vocabulary and a complex plotline that keeps the reader guessing what will happen next. And don’t get me started on the “quality” of production for the movies of either. JKR was very involved in her movies and they were, while not copies of the books, very detailed and close to the novels. The same goes for Stephanie Meyer. However, her casting was very, very flawed. The only professional actors in the movie were Ashley Greene and Robert Pattinson. Even then, all f the actors weren’t familiar with their characters, especially Kristin Stewart, Bella; Bella was a very quirky, almost dorky, happy girl, but was portrayed as a gloomy, bland girl. The cast of Harry Potter actually sat and read the books; they understood how their character was to behave. I recommend you read the Harry Potter novels in detail, read Dracula (Stoker) and Carmilla (LeFanu) in great detail, and read Shakespeare’s Romeo and Juliet. However, considering you’re rant, you probably won’t even read this comment. In fact, even if you did read this comment until this point, you wouldn’t follow anything I say. And even if you did take my advice to read the Harry Potter series and real literature, you wouldn’t understand any of it. Especially Shakespeare’s play. By your note of “the brilliance of Twilight”, you obviously don’t understand that Twilight is a simple, watered down book with a shallow plotline and static characters. I’m not claiming Harry Potter to be classic novels either, but they are much more thought out and carefully crafted with a complex plotline and both dynamic and static characters. I also recommend you read the following novels to understand the difference between “stories” and “literature”: The Name of the Rose (Eco), And Then There Were None (Christi), Farhenheit 451 (Bradbury), and the Hannibal Lector series (Harris). Or at least read Meyer’s other book, The Host. The plotline is much better and the characters are more rounded and are more “likeable”. However, I honestly doubt you understood anything I’ve said throughout this comment; and if somehow you did, you won’t take my advice. Your loss. You will be forever deprived and ignorant of both sides of the spectrum and never know what real literature is.
Oh, it’s a joke. HAHAHA.
TO EVERY ANGRY FAN WHO HAS READ AND COMMENTED ON THIS: it states at the very top of the page that this entire site is JOKE meant to parody the stereotypical teenage girl/Twihard. Although I completely agree with the points fellow HP fans are making, I urge you not to take “Preppygurl” seriously. I repeat: THIS IS A JOKE.
lol at the people who thought this was legit. I mean, at the top of the site, it says this if all a joke, and mainly to subtly poke fun at twi-hards. That is all.
HP Forever,
The Clever Ravenclaw Who Agrees With The Arguments Made in the Comments, Even If It IS Just A Joke
seriously?? harry does every thing for the greater good!!! oh,yeah! jk rowling isn’t original!! she just made the whole wizarding world!! sure, that’s not creative at all!! unlike meyer! she just makes sparkling vampires, that is so cool!!! and liking twiligt because of the hot guys isn’t stupid and shallow!!!!
I really hope this is trolling. I really do. In fact, I hope all of ths posts like these are just trolls. And that the Twihard fanbase isnt as big as it seems to be.
I used to like Twilight. Iread it around three years ago and was like, “The f*** is this?” And Kirsten Stewart is a crappy actress.
Twilight is commercial crap. And I have a reasonable argument to back my opinion.
I speak here as someone who enjoys reading and has read just about every genre books have to offer. I´ve read Romeo and Juliet and althought I´m not a fan of this story I have to admit it is a great story and that it deserves its place among the classics. Comparing SMeyers writting to Shakespeare’s is a complete insult to his work. First of all the language. Shakespeare is a poet, SMeyers can´t use any other adjective besides “beautiful”to describe Edward. And I can´t find any reason why a 108 year old immortal with about 3 doctorates in medicine would still : a) think E-x-a-c-t-l-y like a teenager. If you have 108 years of experience believe me you´ll behave as one, not like an eighteen year old kid, you´ll have way more intelligence. b) still be in highschool. Why would you want to spend the rest of your life between high school and college. If I had eternal life I´d grab a bagpack with a change of clothes and go wondering around the world. It would probably be a great experience. I would probably make my house in the congress library, thousands and thousands of books to read and more coming each day. Or I´d make myself superpowerful. If I became immortal I´d see humanity from a different perspective, I´d probably find them interesting. All those reactions, all their fears, their value of material things, their perspective of love, their lust for power and may other things. I wouldn´t waste my whole life sitting through a class in wich I have more experience than the teacher and can start making corrections. Now I can move on to Bella. She is “supposely” the kind of girl that is pretty but is not aware of it. Of course this only proes the fact that she is in fact very stupid. Because, If fivwe boys confessed to me at the same time i would start wondering what did they see on me. Well I ave more to say on this matter but I think this post is too long.
HArry Potter SUCKS MY BUTT! LO FRIKKEN L
I laughed SO hard when you said Stephanie Meyer is more creative than J.K. Rowling.
I have not heard anything less true in my life.
James is the of the VILLAIN in Twilight! “Oh no! Here comes James! Ooo!!” Doesn’t that just strike fear into your heart? And then there’s Voldemort. Something that at least sounds a bit scary. Plus, SM only made up one name in her books, and that’s Renesmee, which isn’t even that creative! JK Rowling made up almost every name she wrote, using Latin and Greek roots in the names. Also, Twilight is CLEARLY the one with the unrealistic plot. What high schooler just waltzes into school as a new student and automatically becomes popular?? No one. No one at all. I was also slightly offended when you said Harry had no reason to be bitter about the brutal murder of his parents. Hello?? If someone murdered your parents who died saving you, and you never were able to meet them, you’d want revenge too! Harry has every right to go out and kill Voldemort. And what does Edward do? He goes out and saves Bella about fifty times. Whoop-de-doo. Also, you said it’s sad how JK Rowling kills off good guys. Sorry, honey, but that happens all the time. Look around you!! It’s not all fairy tales and rainbows like in Stephanie Meyers head in the real world, and JK Rowling acknowledged that. So in conclusion, if you couldn’t tell, I believe that Twilight is in no way better.
i think hp sucks to the max too.i mean, over 10 movies,the evil creppy dude have not died yet. i mean, what kind of movie have a evil dude live for 10 movies!
Haha, wow, this article is complete bullshit. Good thing its not real….
Ok, you do understand that twilight (doesn’t deserve to be capitalized), is the LEAST original story ever, right? It’s essentially just Meyer’s sexual fantasy. I mean, really, twilight promotes necrophilia, and pedophilia. In addition, the characters are the flattest I’ve EVER seen. Also, Rowling created an entire WORLD. Next to Tolkien of course, she created one of the most in depth universes in literary history. Finally, even the actors who played in the movies hated it. Check out the guy who played Edward. He preferred playing Cedric Diggory who was only around for, I believe (someone correct me if I’m wrong), one movie.
Fun fact, An estimate of our world mortality rate, give or take a few, is 107 per minute, 6390 per hour, 153 thousand per day, 56.0 million per year, 3.9 billion per average lifetime (70 years). So technically, yes. Death happens all the time. Also, some of your reasons why the book is better, is because of the actors. Yeah… that makes so much sense.
Harry Potter teaches us that love can conquer anything. Get your facts striaght before hating on something. Robert Patsison actually admitted in an interview that he hates playing Edward Cullen. You also forgot to include Draco Malfoy in your list of hot guys in Harry Potter.
Ummm, so you’re basiclly saying that Twilight is better then HP because the actors is hotter?
Silly gurl.
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/357es3/ that summs it up…..
HP is loved by people around the world. Twish*t is for fat stupid teenage girls who havent even read the books and are just commenting about the movie.HP actually gives a moral, fight for those you love. twish*t gives the same but fight for your boyfriend, leave your family and friends in the dirt and if you never see him again, become emo and whine all the time.In HP, Harry sacrifices everything for those he cares about.
I rest my case.
BTW, Harry Potter was written years before twish*t. Stephany Myer copied J.K Rowling for Jacob Black.
You idiots. For the Twilight fans who agree, to the Harry Potter fans who argue. THIS WEBSITE IS A JOKE WEBSITE WHICH IS TROLLING THE TWILIGHT FANS.
Even as a spoof article this is horrid Harry Potter forever